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  1. Doug_10's Avatar
    I have 2 640's that now go down from 100% to 70% overnight with no active usage. Just changed with the .494 build. Before the battery would last a couple days.
    07-26-2016 08:25 AM
  2. markryb's Avatar
    HTC ONE M8.... I have had great success with OTHER builds....not this one! (10586.494) battery life has dropped considerably !! Phone sat overnight fully charged prior ...dropped to 73% !! (I have checked all applications that are running etc..) Normal use through out the day was about 30/35% after about 10 hours of light use... now using 60% + ..... hope the send out a fix for this !! (also noticing glitches/lags etc.. when switching apps etc..) had an issue "waking" the phone up this morning (soft re-set fixed it )....
    07-26-2016 09:13 AM
  3. Palm_forlackofchoice's Avatar
    same as ever:
    -data sense not working while on airplane mode
    -hotspot stops working after locking screen

    at this point im pretty sure they are at that later stage kind of like w7 or 8 after some major fixes, they just fix the random chinese character not appearing when installing some random app that happens to be in italian in a french pc, that kind of bugs

    other than that, same buggyness, same unreliability, glitches, etc. this is it, there's no more "wait for update to fix x thing" its time to decide if you like how it is or not
    I wwill preface my agreement with quote by saying I am using a Lumia 635 with 512 ram.
    Although iI think that has some bearing on problems, I don't think it is sole cause.
    Seems that edge crashing could be ram related? News sources that show irreverent information is bad programing.
    Outlook mail not syncing is also something other than ram issue. my bbattery also drains much faster than 8.1 update. iI think this build is less stable than some early ones, I have been part of the insider builds sine beginning. I got my 635 in February 2015, used it week or two on 8 then loaded 10.
    I have had to switch back to 8 about 4 times, wait for new build then go back to 10. I did this a week before this release came out.
    I still have 10 on my lLumia but had to switch to my HTC 8xt as my phone on 8.1 because I couldn't take the constant crashing anymore.
    07-26-2016 09:15 AM
  4. jeffchapik's Avatar
    I have 2 640's that now go down from 100% to 70% overnight with no active usage. Just changed with the .494 build. Before the battery would last a couple days.

    I removed my wife and daughter's 640s from the Insider Program and they both immediately updated to the Redstone release. It runs much better and has some new features. They like it so much that I ordered a 640 to replace my 920.
    07-26-2016 09:41 AM
  5. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    I removed my wife and daughter's 640s from the Insider Program and they both immediately updated to the Redstone release. It runs much better and has some new features. They like it so much that I ordered a 640 to replace my 920.
    If you "removed them from Insider", you got ithem in Threshold, not Redstone, via hard reset. Did you resetted their phones o simply changed ring to Release Preview?
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    07-26-2016 10:12 AM
  6. jeffchapik's Avatar
    I did not reset either phone. I simply unenrolled from Insider, then checked for an update. They both downloaded an update for 14388.390 I think. I'm not positive the exact release, as I don't have either phone with me at the moment. But it was definitely 14388.xxx something.
    07-26-2016 12:15 PM
  7. Dipayans24's Avatar
    Technically everything is over for unsupported phones,those who are struck on 8.1 cannot get w10m via release preview now.only way is to unlock phone via wpinternals and change registry which is quite dangerous.Those who upgraded shouldn't comeback to wp8.1.
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    07-26-2016 12:24 PM
  8. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    I did not reset either phone. I simply unenrolled from Insider, then checked for an update. They both downloaded an update for 14388.390 I think. I'm not positive the exact release, as I don't have either phone with me at the moment. But it was definitely 14388.xxx something.
    Now that's clear, that's a misundesrtood. You are always in Insider ring. You took the slowest, the preview, which for now it taked the official. You never took fast or slow rings, eklsewhere you should made a hard reset, there's no workarounds.
    You are always an Insider
    RumoredNow likes this.
    07-26-2016 12:27 PM
  9. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I removed my wife and daughter's 640s from the Insider Program and they both immediately updated to the Redstone release. It runs much better and has some new features. They like it so much that I ordered a 640 to replace my 920.
    I did not reset either phone. I simply unenrolled from Insider, then checked for an update. They both downloaded an update for 14388.390 I think. I'm not positive the exact release, as I don't have either phone with me at the moment. But it was definitely 14388.xxx something.
    I have a device on Insider Release and another 2 on Official. None of them are seeing anything above 10586.494.

    What Ring were the 640s on? Slow?

    Maybe you went Production and those updates to 14388 were already pending and you just let them go through. 14388 appears to have been passed up for the Anniversary Update. That looks to be 14393.xxx.
    07-26-2016 01:50 PM
  10. mark233's Avatar
    I just (reluctantly) did a hard reset (with restore from a couple of days ago) on my 830 with .494 to see what's up. Already did that with the .318 build but whatever. Now that I've hard reset ... My phone is still on the Release Preview like it was before the reset? Even tho I haven't touched the Windows Insider app?
    libra89 likes this.
    07-26-2016 05:02 PM
  11. jeffchapik's Avatar
    I dunno what to tell you, fellas. This phone doesn't appear to be enrolled in Insider to me:



    Yet it updated to this:



    And Rumored, you're correct, it was 14393. I just got my 640 today. It should have 8.1 on it. I'll set it up and see what happens.
    07-26-2016 06:26 PM
  12. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I just (reluctantly) did a hard reset (with restore from a couple of days ago) on my 830 with .494 to see what's up. Already did that with the .318 build but whatever. Now that I've hard reset ... My phone is still on the Release Preview like it was before the reset? Even tho I haven't touched the Windows Insider app?
    Put the Insider App on your phone and don't select a Ring just go to ellipses (...) > about > and it will confirm the status. I suspect you are still in.


    I dunno what to tell you, fellas. This phone doesn't appear to be enrolled in Insider to me:

    ...

    And Rumored, you're correct, it was 14393. I just got my 640 today. It should have 8.1 on it. I'll set it up and see what happens.
    I still think they were downloaded updates that weren't applied yet.

    You never said what Ring you backed them out of. Was manual restart to apply updates engaged?

    Nothing else really makes sense as that build is simply not available on Production yet.
    mark233 likes this.
    07-26-2016 06:56 PM
  13. jeffchapik's Avatar
    You must be right. My new 640 didn't update without installing Insider. I signed up for the Slow ring and it installed 10.0.10586.102. After the reboot, it was no longer set up for preview builds. I reenrolled in the Slow ring again, and it is downloading 14393 now.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    07-26-2016 08:26 PM
  14. Doug_10's Avatar
    I finally had enough of the battery draining and upgraded one of the 640's to 14393.5 this morning. They had both dropped 30% overnight. Now after the same usage today on both phones, one has dropped from 97% to 61% and the other updated one dropped from 100% to 91%. There were no changes to either phones settings.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    07-27-2016 04:32 PM
  15. ads13's Avatar
    Bugs -

    1. Blank screen on taskbar how
    - https://s32.postimg.org/sx41tdbxx/wp...60728_0005.png
    2. Word Swype doesn't show the guide line in direction we swipe.

    Device : Lumia 535
    07-28-2016 12:44 PM
  16. Beercules's Avatar
    Started having huge battery drains with 10586.494. Was happy with my battery before. Automaticaly got 14393.5 via preview ring - battery is amazing, compared to 10586.494. Much better, much wow :D
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    08-02-2016 05:42 AM
  17. PGrey's Avatar
    HTC ONE M8.... I have had great success with OTHER builds....not this one! (10586.494) battery life has dropped considerably !! Phone sat overnight fully charged prior ...dropped to 73% !! (I have checked all applications that are running etc..) Normal use through out the day was about 30/35% after about 10 hours of light use... now using 60% + ..... hope the send out a fix for this !! (also noticing glitches/lags etc.. when switching apps etc..) had an issue "waking" the phone up this morning (soft re-set fixed it )....
    I talked to HTC today, they are 100% not planning on an official release of Win10, for the M8, no way, no how.
    They did say I could flash to Android, at my risk, awesome stuff.
    Don't reset an M8, going forward, as it'll revert to 8.1, permanently...
    08-02-2016 08:03 PM
  18. Genz3r's Avatar
    I still don't get it completely whats going on now with the anniversary update. i have a lumia 925. Will i get the update? I'n currently still on treshold .494
    08-03-2016 06:59 AM
  19. libra89's Avatar
    I still don't get it completely whats going on now with the anniversary update. i have a lumia 925. Will i get the update? I'n currently still on treshold .494
    I'm sorry but the 925 is not supported for W10M so you are at the end of the line.
    08-03-2016 07:28 AM
  20. daveb673's Avatar
    Technically everything is over for unsupported phones,those who are struck on 8.1 cannot get w10m via release preview now.only way is to unlock phone via wpinternals and change registry which is quite dangerous.Those who upgraded shouldn't comeback to wp8.1.
    I guess I didn't realize HTC One's would only go to the production threshold. Bummer.

    HTC ONE M8.... I have had great success with OTHER builds....not this one! (10586.494) battery life has dropped considerably !! Phone sat overnight fully charged prior ...dropped to 73% !! (I have checked all applications that are running etc..) Normal use through out the day was about 30/35% after about 10 hours of light use... now using 60% + ..... hope the send out a fix for this !! (also noticing glitches/lags etc.. when switching apps etc..) had an issue "waking" the phone up this morning (soft re-set fixed it )....
    Odd. I have not seen that battery drain on mine.

    I talked to HTC today, they are 100% not planning on an official release of Win10, for the M8, no way, no how.
    They did say I could flash to Android, at my risk, awesome stuff.
    Don't reset an M8, going forward, as it'll revert to 8.1, permanently...
    Did they say a Windows M8 could actually be flashed to Android? Didn't think that could be done.

    So much for me buying a flagship phone. I thought I'd be covered for 2 years...

    There may be some light at the end of the tunnel for M8 owners w/WM10 preview installed. It seems there is a way to install Android apps!? {YouTube smA1O1PcgJQ}
    Don't know if I want to do this, or tweak my registry to read lumia. :(
    Last edited by RumoredNow; 08-07-2016 at 12:16 AM. Reason: remove video
    08-06-2016 10:14 PM
  21. RumoredNow's Avatar
    There may be some light at the end of the tunnel for M8 owners w/WM10 preview installed. It seems there is a way to install Android apps!?
    I had to remove the video. The music in the background was not "family friendly."

    Sorry, Dave.... This is part of a hack and a tool based on a leak of Project Astoria and the whole thing was mothballed months ago... Dead end.
    08-07-2016 12:18 AM
  22. PGrey's Avatar
    I guess I didn't realize HTC One's would only go to the production threshold. Bummer.

    Did they say a Windows M8 could actually be flashed to Android? Didn't think that could be done.

    So much for me buying a flagship phone. I thought I'd be covered for 2 years...

    There may be some light at the end of the tunnel for M8 owners w/WM10 preview installed. It seems there is a way to install Android apps!? {YouTube smA1O1PcgJQ}
    Don't know if I want to do this, or tweak my registry to read lumia. :(
    HTC officially doesn't even support the Insider Threshold install. They say 8.1 is the end-of-the-line for the phone.
    Yeah, pretty bad PR, when it says right on the box that you'll get 2 years of updates, with what was the flagship at the time. The CSR I chatted with just said they weren't specifying what kind of "updates" would be delivered, but definitely NOT Win10.

    I asked about flashing to Android Mashmallow, and they said it wasn't supported, but they do have the ROMs posted on their support site, so that's an option I suppose, particularly if you didn't get an Insider build previously, and don't want to do the registry edit to get to RS1.

    I can't see myself buying an HTC X anytime in the future, they were pretty "unfriendly" about it, dismissive almost, it was pretty irritating, they just wanted to end the conversation, saying I wasn't going to get any real update anyway, basically.
    08-07-2016 04:23 AM
  23. Mariusch's Avatar
    Hi
    Can someone tell me if there is any possibility to still get Windows 10 Mobile (Threshold) on my Lumia 920? On all insider rings there is now Redstone that isn't available for my phone and I don't know what to do now
    08-07-2016 09:51 AM
  24. jeffchapik's Avatar
    No way that I know of. The only option at this point is to hack the registry to make it look like a Redstone-capable device.

    I don't understand why MS didn't leave some upgrade path available. Maybe they'll bring it back at some point.
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    08-07-2016 02:17 PM
  25. EspHack's Avatar
    No way that I know of. The only option at this point is to hack the registry to make it look like a Redstone-capable device.

    I don't understand why MS didn't leave some upgrade path available. Maybe they'll bring it back at some point.
    and to think that "unsupported" phones run better on RS1 than TH2... anyway if you got stuck on wp8.1 just use wpinternals to get to w10 again, its quite complicated though, if you're on 10586 you're on luck, just need interoptools and edit model to 930 or something to get to RS1

    all info you need is on XDA w10m forums
    08-07-2016 07:17 PM
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