1. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    My brother is adamant on not upgrading his lumia 640. He dislikes change for anything computing related

    So I wanted to give him 10 reasons why he should upgrade: can you help me out? We're in that 95% part of the world where Cortana does not exist. And he does not use Facebook app.

    So let's hear the reasons
    07-20-2016 07:44 AM
  2. libra89's Avatar
    Some useful add-ons are voice to text, timer is now built in, along with the flashlight. To me, voice to text is awesome though!
    Saijin_Naib likes this.
    07-20-2016 07:49 AM
  3. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Some useful add-ons are voice to text, timer is now built in, along with the flashlight. To me, voice to text is awesome though!
    he might find the flashlight part useful, don't think the voice to text would excite him
    libra89 likes this.
    07-20-2016 07:56 AM
  4. libra89's Avatar
    he might find the flashlight part useful, don't think the voice to text would excite him
    Hmm okay. I forgot to say that he can really customize the action center. On 8.1, you had a few choices. Now there's a lot more. Do you know if he uses any apps that might have improved? Like Twitter, Skype, etc? The official Twitter is lacking but not as much as it is on 8.1 lol.

    If he uses Skype, this might be good to know: http://www.windowscentral.com/skype-...structure-mind
    Last edited by libra89; 07-20-2016 at 08:30 AM.
    07-20-2016 08:00 AM
  5. Ibadurrahman Kahfi's Avatar
    Its faster
    Chintan Gohel and Saijin_Naib like this.
    07-20-2016 08:17 AM
  6. Timbre70's Avatar
    Calculator app is superb.
    07-20-2016 08:35 AM
  7. Rinsun's Avatar
    New Panorama which will come with AU will be better than Lumia Panorama,as I am reading on the forum
    Chintan Gohel and Saijin_Naib like this.
    07-20-2016 09:45 AM
  8. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Good calculator app, flashlight, faster - those are the three that he likes. Any more? I need convincing reasons
    07-20-2016 10:42 AM
  9. Pieter Wolff's Avatar
    Sorry, but I can only give one good reason why I won't upgrade: too unstable resulting in lots of complaints! So until MS solves all hick ups my trusted 830 will stay on 8.1.
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    07-20-2016 10:50 AM
  10. Rinsun's Avatar
    Skype will not support W 8.1 on phones from October 2016

    Outlook Calendar tile will show up to 3 notifications with AU

    Alarms & clocks has timer,stopwatch,alarm & world clock built in.

    Inbuilt Voice Recorder in W 10.

    8.1 OS & apps might not get support in future.
    Last edited by Rinsun; 07-21-2016 at 06:02 AM. Reason: Correcting typo
    07-20-2016 11:38 AM
  11. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Skype will not support W 8.1 on phones from October 2016

    Outlook Calendar tile will show up to 3 notifications with AU

    Alarms & clocks has timer,stopwatch,alarm & wall clock built in.

    Inbuilt Voice Recorder in W 10.

    8.1 OS & apps might not get support in future.
    Perhaps so.
    Rinsun likes this.
    07-21-2016 05:33 AM
  12. Ma Rio's Avatar
    Is there a reason to stay on 8.1?
    I don't know what to say. It's just new and better, listing all the things that are better is not needed (and it's already been done).
    However I am starting to understand people that just don't care about their phone and os and just want it to work and be reliable.
    Chintan Gohel and ayngling like this.
    07-21-2016 09:22 AM
  13. kaktus1389's Avatar
    Better UI (improved action centre, notifications, etc.)
    Universal Apps (includes nicer MS Apps)
    Better performance
    Set location to US or UK and use Cortana
    07-21-2016 09:55 AM
  14. libra89's Avatar
    Is there a reason to stay on 8.1?
    I don't know what to say. It's just new and better, listing all the things that are better is not needed (and it's already been done).
    However I am starting to understand people that just don't care about their phone and os and just want it to work and be reliable.
    Yeah my dad doesn't care about W10M. He likes how Outlook looks like in 8.1 and as long as WhatsApp works, he really doesn't care at all. Aside from WhatsApp and Flashlight XT and a Calculator app, I don't even know what apps he uses LOL. He probably never deals with apps crashing.

    Me on the other hand, I went the Insider Route to get my phone there.
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    07-21-2016 10:30 AM
  15. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Is there a reason to stay on 8.1?
    I don't know what to say. It's just new and better, listing all the things that are better is not needed (and it's already been done).
    However I am starting to understand people that just don't care about their phone and os and just want it to work and be reliable.
    you're right, my brother is that kind of person - as long as it works, why change
    libra89 likes this.
    07-22-2016 12:15 AM
  16. Mark F24's Avatar
    Does the 640 even have a flash to use as a flashlight?

    I would let him keep 8.1, contentment is a virtue. :)
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    07-22-2016 05:34 AM
  17. libra89's Avatar
    Does the 640 even have a flash to use as a flashlight?

    I would let him keep 8.1, contentment is a virtue. :)
    Yes it has flash.
    xandros9 likes this.
    07-22-2016 07:13 AM
  18. rollindice's Avatar
    you're right, my brother is that kind of person - as long as it works, why change
    understood but many developers now focusing only on uwp apps so it won't work in due time
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    07-22-2016 07:33 AM
  19. Krystianpants's Avatar
    It's just better. Seriously, I can't even use windows 8.1 after using 10. It makes you realize what an unorganized mess it was. Heck yesterday I did a WDRT reset back to the regular build and I realized how much better redstone is.

    Biggest reasons(For redstone aka anniversary):

    -Enhanced START screen
    -Enhanced Action center
    -More customizable: action center/start, etc.
    -The settings are better organized and easier to use
    -8.1 apps are being phased out. Eventually the backwards compatibility layer on w10m will be removed which will also make it more efficient.
    -More apps showing up thanks to UWP.
    -Integration with Desktop is improving
    -Quiet hours can be used without Cortana/location being on
    -Store is way better and easier to navigate.
    -Flashlight button in action center. I have used it quite a few times and it's super convenient.
    -keyboard track nimble is actually really useful when you get used to it. It becomes second nature to use it quickly for moving focus around.

    I don't use Cortana much either. But now that Redstone doesn't require location to be on to use it, it's actually handy from time to time when in the car and wanting send a text or play music etc..
    You can also set a different region and just change the language on Cortana.
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    07-22-2016 07:53 AM
  20. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    It's just better. Seriously, I can't even use windows 8.1 after using 10. It makes you realize what an unorganized mess it was. Heck yesterday I did a WDRT reset back to the regular build and I realized how much better redstone is.

    Biggest reasons(For redstone aka anniversary):

    -Enhanced START screen
    -Enhanced Action center
    -More customizable: action center/start, etc.
    -The settings are better organized and easier to use
    -8.1 apps are being phased out. Eventually the backwards compatibility layer on w10m will be removed which will also make it more efficient.
    -More apps showing up thanks to UWP.
    -Integration with Desktop is improving
    -Quiet hours can be used without Cortana/location being on
    -Store is way better and easier to navigate.
    -Flashlight button in action center. I have used it quite a few times and it's super convenient.
    -keyboard track nimble is actually really useful when you get used to it. It becomes second nature to use it quickly for moving focus around.

    I don't use Cortana much either. But now that Redstone doesn't require location to be on to use it, it's actually handy from time to time when in the car and wanting send a text or play music etc..
    You can also set a different region and just change the language on Cortana.
    yours is a good list, I didn't know about the quiet hours - that is useful

    thank you
    Maurizio Troso likes this.
    07-22-2016 10:12 AM
  21. Pieter Wolff's Avatar
    Ok, so I finally convinced myself that I waited long enough to upgrade to WM 10 2 days ago. Download took about 2 hours OTA without any problems whatsoever.
    First impressions on my 830 are very positive; phone seems a bit faster, I like the additional features and so far the battery is holding up extremely well.
    So all in all I'm glad I was patient and waited till most initial problems were ironed out.
    07-31-2016 04:51 AM

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