08-20-2016 06:41 PM
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  1. PGrey's Avatar
    What difference does the official 10 from att make? Go insider get 10 switch back to the production ring. It's the same build att would release

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    Right now, AT&T is on .107, and only on two phones (everyone is asking about the others, and no one is answering). Maybe they're going to switch to 494, or a similar Threshold release, at some point, but my guess is it won't be for a VERY long time.
    They're already way behind on numerous Android stuff, so I think Win Phone gets the very back seat, if they even get one.

    You're right though, if people went Insider, and then back, they'd be on .494, and all would be fine.
    Good luck trying to convince people though, they're deathly afraid of anything that the carrier isn't pushing OTA, the vast majority anyway. I try, I have a pretty good answer diagramming the benefits of going to Insider, features/fixes, the whole bit, but most people just post again, wanting OTA, and AT&T guys just say "we're not going to say anything about our releases, ever".
    It's pretty good stuff over there ;-]
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    07-25-2016 10:15 PM
  2. Schnuffi's Avatar
    I'm glad I live in Scandinavia (DK), where the carriers have absolutely no say. They either provide the service or they don't. That is also the reason I never buy a locked phone. Well, come to think of it, I doubt you could even get a locked phone these days.
    Yea same here in Germany while you can buy a locked phone here why would you. I would hate to deal with American carriers and there prices are crazy over there. I only pay 4€ a month for 300mb and that is fine for me. But to buy a phone in the US is much cheaper my 640 still cost 128€ on Amazon
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    07-26-2016 12:45 AM
  3. PGrey's Avatar
    Yea same here in Germany while you can buy a locked phone here why would you. I would hate to deal with American carriers and there prices are crazy over there. I only pay 4€ a month for 300mb and that is fine for me. But to buy a phone in the US is much cheaper my 640 still cost 128€ on Amazon
    Wow, you should figure out how to buy from US eBay or something, there's gotta' be a better answer ;-]
    Bargain rates on the data though.

    The reason some buy branded/locked here, is that carriers won't provision some features, such as WiFi Call/text, VoLTE and such, for phones they don't sell. I still have an unbranded phone, and am constantly trying to figure out how I can trick AT&T into provisioning it as a 950, with the same features, that I'm paying for anyway ;-]
    07-26-2016 02:47 AM
  4. Schnuffi's Avatar
    The 4€ is only for the data sms and phone cost 9 cent per minute but I dont use sms because everyone I know is on whatsapp and I seldom if ever phone anyone. As for buying phones I found a lot that wont ship internationally I think it has to do with the battery but I am not sure.
    07-26-2016 03:00 AM
  5. Danobe's Avatar
    Yea same here in Germany while you can buy a locked phone here why would you. I would hate to deal with American carriers and there prices are crazy over there. I only pay 4 a month for 300mb and that is fine for me. But to buy a phone in the US is much cheaper my 640 still cost 128 on Amazon

    I pay DKK109, or the equivalent of 13.50/US$14.90 for 10 hours of calls, 18GB of data, no payment to initiate a call, and free SMS and MMS.
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    07-26-2016 05:22 AM
  6. Schnuffi's Avatar
    I am from Canada my self but have been living in Germany for over 20 years any I know my friends back home pay a lot as well. I guess in Europe they have the population density that can support lower cost to the consumers. As well as perhaps far more providers from all over Europe who try to undercut the next guy. I still think the telecoms in north America have far to much power. A lot of the people I know over their don`t even have a data plan for their phones, because of the cost. They pay to receive an sms as well as send one. They pay extra for caller ID and it goes on and on. They are truly getting ripped off.
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    07-26-2016 06:03 AM
  7. PGrey's Avatar
    I am from Canada my self but have been living in Germany for over 20 years any I know my friends back home pay a lot as well. I guess in Europe they have the population density that can support lower cost to the consumers. As well as perhaps far more providers from all over Europe who try to undercut the next guy. I still think the telecoms in north America have far to much power. A lot of the people I know over their don`t even have a data plan for their phones, because of the cost. They pay to receive an sms as well as send one. They pay extra for caller ID and it goes on and on. They are truly getting ripped off.
    Yeah, the EU density lends itself to better service and competition, plus there's a "better attitude" about consumers there, it seems anyway.
    You're right, our providers here have way too much power, and just about zero regulation.
    They say there's "choice", but what they really mean, in most cases, is if you want service, you can choose the provider that has coverage, in your area, OR choose one with good features/provisioning, that you can't actually use.
    I wish we had more healthy, actual competition, like over there...
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    07-26-2016 02:45 PM
  8. Sedp23's Avatar
    Right now, AT&T is on .107, and only on two phones (everyone is asking about the others, and no one is answering). Maybe they're going to switch to 494, or a similar Threshold release, at some point, but my guess is it won't be for a VERY long time.
    They're already way behind on numerous Android stuff, so I think Win Phone gets the very back seat, if they even get one.

    You're right though, if people went Insider, and then back, they'd be on .494, and all would be fine.
    Good luck trying to convince people though, they're deathly afraid of anything that the carrier isn't pushing OTA, the vast majority anyway. I try, I have a pretty good answer diagramming the benefits of going to Insider, features/fixes, the whole bit, but most people just post again, wanting OTA, and AT&T guys just say "we're not going to say anything about our releases, ever".
    It's pretty good stuff over there ;-]
    It's not att lol 107 might be the version attleaves the phone at after their initial update to that but if u check for updates afterwards it should update to the latest build directly from Microsoft. Once a phone is on 10 Microsoft controls the updates not the carrier

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    07-28-2016 12:04 AM
  9. Allen Rhodes's Avatar
    So, if im not mistaken..... MS acknowledged branded phones would receive the update after unlocked phones. Hrmmm The wifes AT&T 950 still doesnt have the update. Thought this wasnt supposed to happen with 10, eh?
    08-18-2016 12:04 PM
  10. PGrey's Avatar
    So, if im not mistaken..... MS acknowledged branded phones would receive the update after unlocked phones. Hrmmm The wifes AT&T 950 still doesnt have the update. Thought this wasnt supposed to happen with 10, eh?
    Interesting, my wife's (unbranded) 950 did get it.
    Yeah, I thought this was source-agnostic, and the updates would simply happen?
    I have to admit, I didn't really believe that carrier-branded phones had no way for carriers to block or delay the push, I guess that still remains to be seen, in the next couple of days...
    08-18-2016 03:02 PM
  11. Allen Rhodes's Avatar
    Bingo! Ive been blasted a tad on this lol. Part of me KNEW this would happen, thus the post. Carrier branded phones, oddly enough, still no update. Now the true question is whether or not the hold up is actually being caused by MS, or the carrier.

    Interesting, my wife's (unbranded) 950 did get it.
    Yeah, I thought this was source-agnostic, and the updates would simply happen?
    I have to admit, I didn't really believe that carrier-branded phones had no way for carriers to block or delay the push, I guess that still remains to be seen, in the next couple of days...
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    08-20-2016 06:41 PM
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