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  1. PGrey's Avatar
    it's not a good idea at all. but it's MS after all. I am not surprised
    It's not quite like that. Someone isn't sitting around throwing darts, and deciding to make apps "Redstone required", or not.
    Typically, MS isn't even involved in the equation, at all.

    What does happen, is new features get introduced in new revisions, and developers have to decide, if they want to use them, either statically, or dynamically. Depending on how they decide to do linkage, they might have to require >= Redstone or their app wouldn't load. If they did it more dynamically, they might have to exclude certain functionality in <Redstone builds, which can become challenging, fast, if you're trying to have common interfaces and such.
    Sometimes developers just decide that it's easier and less costly overall, to move forward at some point to a common version, and require a minimum build.

    Hopefully this is the vast majority of apps being marked for >= Anniversary only. If you see an app you think isn't correctly set, you can always ask the developer, it could be an oversight, and maybe they'll adjust and rebuild the install package.

    -pete
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    08-02-2016 12:54 PM
  2. milkyway's Avatar
    VLC for Windows 10 Mobile

    It's not quite like that. Someone isn't sitting around throwing darts, and deciding to make apps "Redstone required", or not.
    Typically, MS isn't even involved in the equation, at all.

    What does happen, is new features get introduced in new revisions, and developers have to decide, if they want to use them, either statically, or dynamically. Depending on how they decide to do linkage, they might have to require >= Redstone or their app wouldn't load. If they did it more dynamically, they might have to exclude certain functionality in <Redstone builds, which can become challenging, fast, if you're trying to have common interfaces and such.
    Sometimes developers just decide that it's easier and less costly overall, to move forward at some point to a common version, and require a minimum build.

    Hopefully this is the vast majority of apps being marked for >= Anniversary only. If you see an app you think isn't correctly set, you can always ask the developer, it could be an oversight, and maybe they'll adjust and rebuild the install package.

    -pete
    Well, I know Microsoft does not sit around and brainstorm "Hey, how can we produce even more frustration in our user base"...
    Last edited by xandros9; 08-02-2016 at 09:50 PM. Reason: merging
    08-02-2016 01:03 PM
  3. ven07's Avatar
    I hope I wasn't being sarcastic, I wasn't trying to, hoping it wasn't me anyway.

    I think a bigger issue might be if people had phones that didn't make it to .494, or maybe they didn't get upgraded from 8.x at all, even though they could run it fine. I guess there's always the registry hack, although a lot of people are even less comfortable with that, vs the Insider (app or integrated).

    Hopefully developers will think about their settings here, carefully, and not just default to Redstone (and probably removing themselves from a huge segment of the current market)...
    Wasn't aimed at you tho :p

    A lot of people decided to stay on 8/8.1 because of the reported bugs of the earlier builds
    08-02-2016 05:05 PM
  4. PGrey's Avatar
    It's also available for Windows 8.x mobile (phone) too, maybe not the latest/greatest, but that's just the deal...

    Wasn't aimed at you tho :p

    A lot of people decided to stay on 8/8.1 because of the reported bugs of the earlier builds
    Thanks for clarifying.

    Yeah, that's unfortunate, I got all my friends/family with Win Phones to update to Release Preview, back around 02/16-ish. Many are really happy now, with the results (494). I have yet to hear from any single person who wants to go back, although they can, easily enough. My wife almost did, .456 was bad, on her HTC M8, but now she really likes 494.

    I hope MS decides to re-host this, for older devices, I guess their worry is probably support, but their balance-win is that more people are current. I guess we'll see.
    Last edited by xandros9; 08-02-2016 at 10:03 PM.
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    08-02-2016 06:02 PM
  5. milkyway's Avatar
    It's also available for Windows 8.x mobile (phone) too, maybe not the latest/greatest, but that's just the deal...



    Thanks for clarifying.

    Yeah, that's unfortunate, I got all my friends/family with Win Phones to update to Release Preview, back around 02/16-ish. Many are really happy now, with the results (494). I have yet to hear from any single person who wants to go back, although they can, easily enough. My wife almost did, .456 was bad, on her HTC M8, but now she really likes 494.

    I hope MS decides to re-host this, for older devices, I guess their worry is probably support, but their balance-win is that more people are current. I guess we'll see.
    yep! but the app for WP8 is not the same app. The app for W10 is a UWP and I know the VLC team is awesome....but how long will they support several apps?
    Sooner or later all the developers will use APls in the UWP-apps which are not present in Threshold
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