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  1. Dano91's Avatar
    Is there a way to install old MS Messenger on to Win 10 Mobile? As many of you probably noticed, the new app made directly by FB is slow, crashes often and has high battery usage. So I was wondering if I could install the old one (WP8.1) version of Messenger on my Lumia 650 ??
    08-26-2016 10:57 AM
  2. Dano91's Avatar
    Ok, after literally HOURS spent googling/trying/cursing I finally found a solution!

    The problem with the most of .xap files you find on the internet is, that they're downloaded directly from Windows Store, which means they're signed (encrypted).
    So when you try to sideload them, either from phone memory, SD card, OneDrive or using WP Application Deployment or WPV XAP Deployer 2.0, all you will get, is some nasty error..

    Therefore the only solution is to find a modified .xap which is already decrypted.. long story short, here is working old Messenger made by MS (ver. 11.0.1.0):

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...8&d=1467470332

    I installed it using WPV XAP Deployer 2.0. Phone of course is needed to be in Developer mode.

    And yes, this version supports lock screen/glance icon, it has transparent tile, it's generally quicker and hopefully will have lower battery usage. Oh and by pressing back button it won't close, it'll just go to background.

    Thanks EspHack for pointing me to right direction!
  3. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Is there a way to install old MS Messenger on to Win 10 Mobile? As many of you probably noticed, the new app made directly by FB is slow, crashes often and has high battery usage. So I was wondering if I could install the old one (WP8.1) version of Messenger on my Lumia 650 ??
    if it was removed from store,then I doubt that can be done
    You could check your downloads history in store app
    08-26-2016 11:27 AM
  4. Dano91's Avatar
    if it was removed from store,then I doubt that can be done
    You could check your downloads history in store app
    Actually it was merged with the new one - basically if you visit the store from WP8.1 phone (Lumia 620 in my case), you will be offered with an option to download an old MS version (11.0.1). And when you visit the same app with Win10M device, the new one (FB made) will be downloaded.
    08-26-2016 11:38 AM
  5. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Actually it was merged with the new one - basically if you visit the store from WP8.1 phone (Lumia 620 in my case), you will be offered with an option to download an old MS version (11.0.1). And when you visit the same app with Win10M device, the new one (FB made) will be downloaded.
    well then, you're out of luck in that regard
    The positive side is that facebook keeps updating their apps regularly, so stability overall should increase
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    08-26-2016 11:43 AM
  6. Dano91's Avatar
    well then, you're out of luck in that regard
    The positive side is that facebook keeps updating their apps regularly, so stability overall should increase
    Technically the old version is still in the store, but is offered only for WP8/8.1 devices. Therefore theoretically, all I need is to somehow get to that file and sideload it to Win10M from PC..
    Unfortunately I'm skeptical about FB's Messenger updates.. it's publicly available for some time now and it's still the same - slow, buggy, no transparent tile.. and since it's just a port from iOS app, I doubt it'll be ever better.. user's reviews speak clearly: 2.5 star
    We can see that with recently released Win10M app for Facebook, again - it's slow and buggy compared to old MS Facebook app and again - it's iOS port.. Thankfully in this case they didn't merged those two apps, so you can still download the old one..

    EDIT: It seems that old Facebook app made by MS, is no longer available...
    Last edited by Dano91; 08-27-2016 at 10:16 PM.
    08-26-2016 12:03 PM
  7. mikepalma's Avatar
    How do sideload app?
    08-26-2016 12:04 PM
  8. Dano91's Avatar
    How do sideload app?
    How to Sideload Apps on Windows 10 Mobile
    08-26-2016 12:18 PM
  9. EspHack's Avatar
    well I still have it, and I plan to keep it, that update in the store can stay there until my phone dies

    I tried the "new" app when it was in beta and said NOPE

    so here it is Download Facebook Messenger 11.0.1.0 XAP File for Windows Phone - Appx4Fun

    sideload it using device portal or just copy it to phone memory or onedrive

    hah, notice how it weights like 6mb whereas the ios port is almost 100mb, insane...
    08-27-2016 01:04 AM
  10. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    well I still have it, and I plan to keep it, that update in the store can stay there until my phone dies

    I tried the "new" app when it was in beta and said NOPE

    so here it is Download Facebook Messenger 11.0.1.0 XAP File for Windows Phone - Appx4Fun

    sideload it using device portal or just copy it to phone memory or onedrive

    hah, notice how it weights like 6mb whereas the ios port is almost 100mb, insane...
    most of it would just be junk code that won't ever work on windows 10 - they should just code it again from the ground up for windows
    08-27-2016 08:07 AM
  11. 11B1P's Avatar
    ...it's still the same - slow, buggy, no transparent tile...
    That's not the case for everyone. My tile shows the contact pic whenever I get a message.
    Maurizio Troso likes this.
    08-27-2016 09:17 AM
  12. Dano91's Avatar
    That's not the case for everyone. My tile shows the contact pic whenever I get a message.
    Sure, mine too, but I was talking about transparent tile, e.g. when there is no message, tile is blue, not transparent:

    wp_ss_20160827_0001.png
    EspHack likes this.
    08-27-2016 09:52 AM
  13. Dano91's Avatar
    well I still have it, and I plan to keep it, that update in the store can stay there until my phone dies

    I tried the "new" app when it was in beta and said NOPE

    so here it is Download Facebook Messenger 11.0.1.0 XAP File for Windows Phone - Appx4Fun

    sideload it using device portal or just copy it to phone memory or onedrive

    hah, notice how it weights like 6mb whereas the ios port is almost 100mb, insane...
    Thank you, but unfortunately I tried to install it directly from OneDrive, from phone memory, sideload it with Device Portal and even with "Windows Phone Application Deployment 8.1" and it always throw some error. :(( Any ideas?
    08-27-2016 09:56 AM
  14. EspHack's Avatar
    Thank you, but unfortunately I tried to install it directly from OneDrive, from phone memory, sideload it with Device Portal and even with "Windows Phone Application Deployment 8.1" and it always throw some error. :(( Any ideas?
    uninstall the crappy one first? try the xap deployer 8.0 that one manages to work for me when everything else fails
    Dano91 likes this.
    08-27-2016 01:08 PM
  15. 11B1P's Avatar
    Sure, mine too, but I was talking about transparent tile, e.g. when there is no message, tile is blue, not transparent:
    Ah, got ya. I have my Messenger tile in a folder, so I never see that it's not transparent.
    Chintan Gohel and Dano91 like this.
    08-27-2016 03:31 PM
  16. Dano91's Avatar
    Ok, after literally HOURS spent googling/trying/cursing I finally found a solution!

    The problem with the most of .xap files you find on the internet is, that they're downloaded directly from Windows Store, which means they're signed (encrypted).
    So when you try to sideload them, either from phone memory, SD card, OneDrive or using WP Application Deployment or WPV XAP Deployer 2.0, all you will get, is some nasty error..

    Therefore the only solution is to find a modified .xap which is already decrypted.. long story short, here is working old Messenger made by MS (ver. 11.0.1.0):

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...8&d=1467470332

    I installed it using WPV XAP Deployer 2.0. Phone of course is needed to be in Developer mode.

    And yes, this version supports lock screen/glance icon, it has transparent tile, it's generally quicker and hopefully will have lower battery usage. Oh and by pressing back button it won't close, it'll just go to background.

    Thanks EspHack for pointing me to right direction!
    Last edited by Dano91; 08-27-2016 at 10:49 PM.
    08-27-2016 07:36 PM
  17. Ma Rio's Avatar
    Sure, mine too, but I was talking about transparent tile, e.g. when there is no message, tile is blue, not transparent:

    Click image for larger version. 

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    That picture makes me so furious, oh my god! How dare they destroy such a beautiful creation!

    Btw, is facebook API still open? Could one make his own messenger app?

    And I'm on the edge of installing the old one as well. I don't know if the ****tyness of the new one outweights the new features.
    08-27-2016 08:31 PM
  18. Dano91's Avatar
    And I'm on the edge of installing the old one as well. I don't know if the ****tyness of the new one outweights the new features.
    You can have both, well, sort of.. The old one from link I posted above and the new one as a Messenger Beta which is made by FB Inc.

    EDIT: Based on version numbers, Messenger Beta is actually older than non-beta version made by FB Inc. (v79.516 vs. v79.531)
    Last edited by Dano91; 08-28-2016 at 01:55 AM.
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    08-27-2016 10:11 PM
  19. EspHack's Avatar
    ^for anyone interested remember to change the extension to .xap after downloading that XDA attachment

    glad to help you, now all we need is a black store with decrypted apps ^^
    ven07, Saijin_Naib and Dano91 like this.
    08-27-2016 10:39 PM
  20. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    That picture makes me so furious, oh my god! How dare they destroy such a beautiful creation!

    Btw, is facebook API still open? Could one make his own messenger app?

    And I'm on the edge of installing the old one as well. I don't know if the ****tyness of the new one outweights the new features.
    the river picture?
    08-28-2016 02:17 PM
  21. Ma Rio's Avatar
    the river picture?
    No I meant the screenshot as a whole (the fact that it's ruined by a stupid tile). I should have worded that better.
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    08-28-2016 02:40 PM
  22. SL2's Avatar
    Sure, mine too, but I was talking about transparent tile, e.g. when there is no message, tile is blue, not transparent:

    Click image for larger version. 

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    You can make a transparent tile with Hot Tiles, although I see it's not free anymore. There are similar tile creating apps available though.
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/e?l...token=yyOBKt4a

    Still haven't encountered anything bad with the "FB" FB app.
    09-07-2016 05:49 AM
  23. Anamnesis's Avatar
    hmmm I am very tempted to try this.... I wonder if it will still send notifications to the Microsoft Band Messenger tile (something else we lost with the update)
    09-15-2016 08:36 PM
  24. Anamnesis's Avatar
    OMG - so everything went perfectly and it all works!! Can't even begin to tell you how grateful I am for this!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    09-15-2016 09:03 PM
  25. Player Piano's Avatar
    I am unable to install. I get the message asking to install the app and then it just flips back to the file explorer. In developer made and changed to .xap. Any other suggestions?
    09-15-2016 09:39 PM
  26. Anamnesis's Avatar
    I am unable to install. I get the message asking to install the app and then it just flips back to the file explorer. In developer made and changed to .xap. Any other suggestions?
    Are you trying to install from a PC or on the device?
    09-15-2016 09:45 PM
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