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View Poll Results: Do you think there ever be another Windows Phone?

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  • Nope.

    13 30.23%
  • Yup.

    30 69.77%
10-20-2016 10:48 AM
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  1. Jakoh's Avatar
    If X3 is the last Windows Mobile phone...then the time is not too far away to have full Window10 on an X86 Phone.
    09-15-2016 01:27 PM
  2. alexoiman's Avatar
    Nope but i think it will be the best wp available for the next couple of years.
    Or at least untill someone comes up with a win32 capable phone.
    I mean i definitely dont see MS releasing a surface phone anytime next year.
    09-15-2016 01:42 PM
  3. DOGC_Kyle's Avatar
    Elite x3 isn't even being advertised as a phone, it's a pocket-sized Windows computer that happens to have a cellular connection and earphone. I have little doubt there will be more Windows computers, and some of them will probably fit in your pocket.
    Other than system UI, processor (to be fair, this limits apps), and size, what's the difference between the Elite x3 and any Windows computer? What if there was a 6" Intel Atom-based tablet running Windows? We have 8" tablets that can run every Windows app, why not 6"?
    09-15-2016 01:50 PM
  4. Joe920's Avatar
    This poll needs a followup poll:

    Poll: Did you vote for the answer you intended to select?

    * yes, I inadvertently selected the wrong answer
    * no, I selected the answer as intended
    RumoredNow, Jcmg62, a5cent and 2 others like this.
    09-15-2016 03:19 PM
  5. Iain_S's Avatar
    well with Samsung loosing billions over the note 7 fiasco I would count them in for anything windows mobile anytime soon.
    09-15-2016 06:13 PM
  6. libra89's Avatar
    There will be others, I just don't know how many there would be. I think this will be an interesting space to see.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    09-15-2016 07:18 PM
  7. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Reportedly, Uncle Sammy and Miss Croft have kissed and made up. Sammy owed the gal a lot of money and they've come to an arrangement. You may see them back out on the town together yet... Remember that Tizen isn't working out so much and Sammy wants a second OS.
    That would be fantastic if it was true. Also, didn't Samsung recently patent a device dual booting Android and Windows? Maybe that adds fuel to this particular fire? After all, they could have picked another OS as the secondary one. But they specifically picked Windows Mobile.

    I think the future of Windows Mobile could be Microsoft letting other OEM that typically run Android (e.g. Xiaomi) run Windows Mobile as a custom ROM. That way Microsoft don't need to worry about the hardware side of things and Windows Mobile gets deeper penetration due to the massive amount of devices running Android.

    I am sure many Android owners would be willing to try Windows Mobile on their device if they were given the choice.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    09-15-2016 09:33 PM
  8. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Also, didn't Samsung recently patent a device dual booting Android and Windows? Maybe that adds fuel to this particular fire?
    Seeing a report of that new patent inspired me to put Samsung into the conversation for sure.
    09-15-2016 09:45 PM
  9. Ma Rio's Avatar
    There's no way W10M is going to die. MS has way too much money to keep it alive, even if it doesn't perform well. Also we'll see at least a few more devices, one of them being the rummored Surface Phone.
    It is possible that W10M won't rise for another few years. It's quite possible. But I know that Android can't stay on top if it just keeps going the same thing over and over (iOS too). W10M will allways be around, and will just wait for the opportunity to start rising as it will offer something iOS and Android won't.
    The only way for it to die is if MS kills it intentionally, and I just don't see that happening. Though I had the same thought about Symbian (which was one of the best OSes out there) and here we are now, with most people not even knowing what it is.
    RumoredNow and libra89 like this.
    09-15-2016 10:30 PM
  10. StarLord0890's Avatar
    Having never used any smartphone other than windows phone since the smartphones arrived I really do not wanna see Microsoft abandon w10m. Go windows 10 mobile !!
    RumoredNow likes this.
    09-16-2016 01:21 AM
  11. mehtanilay10's Avatar
    IPhone uses there own Hardware & Software.
    Google trying to create Nexus under own label with own set of H/W & S/W.
    Where MS is giving up on Lumia which is one of the popular series.
    I know OEM is good for success as well as profit but it does not mean stop own brand!

    I hope MS come back with own HW & SW with surface phone.
    09-16-2016 07:16 AM
  12. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    Voted No just because OP can't make a proper poll.

    Well it's so obvious that there will be more phones that the poll is completely useless anyway.
    xandros9, Joe920 and RumoredNow like this.
    09-16-2016 08:32 AM
  13. thekonger's Avatar
    W10M is dead. MS had a chance and was going up in market share a few years ago. And then for some inexplicable reason they quit trying to get them into carriers stores and even online many carriers only offered 2 year old phones. I was a Sprint customer who really didn't even have any W10M choices. You can't gain market share if people can't even find your phones. Now apps are abandoning W10M left and right. They have done themselves in.

    MS can still have a hugely successful phone but only if they create a full W10 x86 phone. That's the one phone I would actually pay full price for up front. But they still need to get it into carriers on payment plans. Overseas it might do well selling outright but in the US 80% of customers buy on a xx-year plan.
    09-16-2016 09:34 AM
  14. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar

    W10M is dead. False, it's receving many builds, and, as noted by Netmarketshare worldwide usage of windows on mobile is still at 3%...this can't keep up for long on this we agree

    MS had a chance and was going up in market share a few years ago. And then for some inexplicable reason they quit trying to get them into carriers stores and even online many carriers only offered 2 year old phones. I was a Sprint customer who really didn't even have any W10M choices. You can't gain market share if people can't even find your phones. True

    Now apps are abandoning W10M left and right. False, some leaving many coming. I'd say it's not worse than the past 3 years.

    They have done themselves in.

    MS can still have a hugely successful phone but only if they create a full W10 x86 phone. That's the one phone I would actually pay full price for up front. But they still need to get it into carriers on payment plans. Overseas it might do well selling outright but in the US 80% of customers buy on a xx-year plan. With today tech it's not an option and they started a road on which less and less apps should be Win32 so, while you'd like that, it probably isn't the solution to the problem and they are trying to achieve something much more impressive. And anyway the two best selling OS out there do not run Win32.

    09-16-2016 10:31 AM
  15. Allen Rhodes's Avatar
    Theres no emoji good enough to express me pounding my head against the desk hard enough. No.... for cripes sake NO its not. They have an event coming up to profile 3rd party phones AND the unconfirmed confirmed Surface Phone. Can we stop with the doom and gloom. We are safe for a couple of years guys. New apps and support popping up every month. Stop, please just stop.
    Last edited by Allen Rhodes; 09-16-2016 at 09:43 PM.
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    09-16-2016 11:30 AM
  16. Allen Rhodes's Avatar
    The topic title and question are completely misleading, btw.
    RumoredNow and Paolo Ferrazza like this.
    09-16-2016 11:31 AM
  17. thekonger's Avatar
    Paolo Ferrazza - You sound like a delusional Black Berry fan when their market share had dropped to 3%. The truth is many apps are stopping support for W10M including many popular titles and business apps. Yes some people are putting a few apps and games out, but nothing major.



    The point of going win32 is you would instantly have a huge library of apps and games and buyers would be guaranteed they would get plenty more. MS is also making it easier to port apps to UWP with their desktop converter. Not so with W10M.

    But they do also have to get these devices in carriers and offer them on contract plans. The vast majority of people in the US at least buy phones on contract and they get them in brick and mortar stores. The last year you couldn't hardly find any Window Phones and Sprint only carried a few 2 year old models online.

    So yes, W10M is on life support, and about the only thing that will save it is switching a x86 chip.
    09-16-2016 03:20 PM
  18. DOGC_Kyle's Avatar
    I think if they get x86 chips in the devices, they won't really need to make a point of getting them into carrier stores. You don't buy computers on payment plans. Having a full PC, running full and complete Windows, would be very appealing and so far, there's nothing remotely comparable in existence, so I don't think it'd be a problem if they were even limited to their own Microsoft/Windows stores.
    Also, not sure what it's like with your local carriers, but here you still have to pay a large amount of the phone's cost upfront if you buy from a carrier. Line fees (cost per phone line/SIM card) are also much lower if you bring your own device. No major reason to buy from the carrier.
    09-17-2016 02:12 PM
  19. P4geD0wn's Avatar
    Last win 10 m phone? for sure not. Relevant, probably. There can be many more w10m phones but if they cant compare to Iphones and flagships androids (especially in camera department) they are pretty much irrelevant. Nobody will talk about them outside from windows fan sites.
    xandros9 and libra89 like this.
    09-18-2016 03:00 PM
  20. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    Paolo Ferrazza - You sound like a delusional Black Berry fan when their market share had dropped to 3%. The truth is many apps are stopping support for W10M including many popular titles and business apps. Yes some people are putting a few apps and games out, but nothing major.



    The point of going win32 is you would instantly have a huge library of apps and games and buyers would be guaranteed they would get plenty more. MS is also making it easier to port apps to UWP with their desktop converter. Not so with W10M.

    But they do also have to get these devices in carriers and offer them on contract plans. The vast majority of people in the US at least buy phones on contract and they get them in brick and mortar stores. The last year you couldn't hardly find any Window Phones and Sprint only carried a few 2 year old models online.

    So yes, W10M is on life support, and about the only thing that will save it is switching a x86 chip.
    I stick to facts (some apps came some apps went, definetly not worse than where we were 2 years ago ... BOA, FBx2, netflix, instagram, twitter are now proper apps and I can continue, while I can only think about Amazon as a big player that left and it's a service which for the most part can be used via web) and expose strict reasoning.

    You can't directly contraddict anything I said so you have to tell me I'm delusional.
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    09-19-2016 10:48 AM
  21. Anderson Cave's Avatar
    Can we say equally if Apple doesn't make a mobile OS X and leave iOS alone they won't survive either ?
    09-19-2016 01:21 PM
  22. Anderson Cave's Avatar
    I know this may not mean much to anyone here, but are you aware HP has sold out for the second time in two weeks ? But then again if you produce 4 per online site they would go fast huh ? Let's see what the numbers says, if it's any of our business !
    09-19-2016 01:26 PM
  23. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    I know this may not mean much to anyone here, but are you aware HP has sold out for the second time in two weeks ? But then again if you produce 4 per online site they would go fast huh ? Let's see what the numbers says, if it's any of our business !
    I don't think they'll show sale numbers unless they are crazy good.
    09-19-2016 01:31 PM
  24. thekonger's Avatar
    I stick to facts (some apps came some apps went, definetly not worse than where we were 2 years ago ... BOA, FBx2, netflix, instagram, twitter are now proper apps and I can continue, while I can only think about Amazon as a big player that left and it's a service which for the most part can be used via web) and expose strict reasoning.

    You can't directly contraddict anything I said so you have to tell me I'm delusional.
    Sorry for the late response but I am saying you're delusional because you think W10M is doing okay despite their market share having dropped to the point it's now practically irrelevant.

    And saying the apps are not worse than they were two years ago is crazy. Stagnating for two years isn't a good thing when you're talking about mobile.

    As for me saying x86 i mean able to run full W10 and not a mobile version. That's about the only thing that will save any variant of a phone running Windows.

    I'm really not trying to start a fight but I stand behind my assertion theW10M is on its last leg. And I loved the OS, but MS really seemed to have a strategy that defied logic in regards to getting good phones into carrier stores. And now 2+ years after switching my 950 out I still can't get a WP on Sprint so it's an LG20 for me.

    If it comes back and I'm proven wrong I'll be happy to get another WP. But if the X3 is all they have and a Surface Phone doesn't become a reality very soon with a x86 chip and in every major carrier on contract then it's done for.
    10-20-2016 10:48 AM
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