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  1. EspHack's Avatar

    Fair point, can't dispute that! I guess whether it would be a gain or a loss of those apps is strongly person dependent. I never updated my dad's phone to Windows 10 Mobile. He's fine with the built in functions (phone, text, email, camera etc) and WhatsApp and occasional map usage with Here maps.
    I should've done the same with mine, he got rid of his 640 with 1607 and now has a 822 happily on 8.0, 8.1 is not showing up for some reason, but maan that thing is smooth, and definitely feels better than my w10m icon

    its not just us enthusiasts, "this thing feels like quality" referring to his new 822 in comparison to the 640, his words, a man that barely knows how to chat :P
    12-01-2016 08:34 PM
  2. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    The experience slightly improves when you remove the cursor in keyboard options but the inconsistencies still remain
    12-05-2016 07:21 AM
  3. joshcsmith13's Avatar
    I couldn't agree with you all more. This is infuriating!! As somebody else pointed out, it's almost like the longer the word is the worse it gets. That's ridiculous! If I distinctly change (or pause) the direction of my "flow", then it should be even easier for the dumb thing to figure out what I'm trying to spell because there will be fewer possible matches.
    As it stands now, if I have to type something other than what's in the vocabulary of a 12 year old, I just start banging out individual letters.
    ...and I don't even think there's a way to train it for words that it often gets wrong (when it doesn't come up in the correction list)
    ananimus likes this.
    12-14-2016 05:31 PM
  4. Tien-Lin Chang's Avatar
    Having flow keyboard in my iPhone and my ATIV S(hack for W10M RS2 build), it does failed to deliver from time to time.

    Something bothering me is I don't get the standard of word filter rules it which bans the word like "sexy" to be swiped out, why?

    It keep giving like "Ext", "Exit", "Sect", "Speedy" which is just retard as hell....

    Since when "sexy" became a word to be forbidden?
    12-15-2016 10:31 AM
  5. mattiasnyc's Avatar
    The way I see it something is fundamentally wrong with how it is coded. I can swipe "miserable" but not "miserably". The latter results in "literally". So while swiping the exact same word for the first 8 letters, it actually understands the last 9th letter is different but chooses to then change all preceding 8!

    This is probably my number 1 gripe with this phone.
    12-15-2016 10:56 AM
  6. Tejas Javery's Avatar
    At times it is irritating, else out is an amazing keyboard overall.
    12-15-2016 12:20 PM
  7. HeyCori's Avatar
    I use Swiftkey on Android. It works really well. It has never been as good as Word Flow on W10, though. So whateves...
    12-15-2016 12:29 PM
  8. mattiasnyc's Avatar
    I had an Android as well, and I never had these errors. I just don't really understand why they occur.

    Another example is when I'm swiping a longer word where the direction of the movement of my finger changes X times, yet it suggests a word with X-3 times the direction changes. I mean, how does that make sense in any universe?
    12-15-2016 01:08 PM
  9. jsooney's Avatar
    Having flow keyboard in my iPhone and my ATIV S(hack for W10M RS2 build), it does failed to deliver from time to time.

    Something bothering me is I don't get the standard of word filter rules it which bans the word like "sexy" to be swiped out, why?

    It keep giving like "Ext", "Exit", "Sect", "Speedy" which is just retard as hell....

    Since when "sexy" became a word to be forbidden?
    It won't offer a "bad" word the first few times. If you type it in manually a few times it will eventually add it to the allowed words. I can't answer why it might think "sexy" is bad.
    Tien-Lin Chang likes this.
    12-15-2016 03:48 PM
  10. Exotic Hadron's Avatar
    Absolutely agreed. I've noticed a significant downgrade (dammit, I couldn't even type 'downgrade'!) after upgrading from Windows Phone 8.1 to Windows 10 Mobile.

    My guess wad (seesh, it was not wad, dear keyboard) that Microsoft has started to use another prediction cloud or something in Windows 10... It used to be so good and flawless on Windows Phone 8.1.

    Also, it seems that the more ppl use the keyboard, the more skewed becomes the AI knowledge. In other words, it seems quality of predictions degrades, because the 'learned' cloud now seriously deviates from what it has been out of the box when it first appeared on the market.

    That is to say researchers have trained the AI on the correct prediction corpus. But as time goes by, the cloud now learns from us, human beings, it learns how we type and... its trained prediction changed.
    12-15-2016 04:26 PM
  11. Tejas Javery's Avatar
    For 8.1, it was amazing. Like really amazing! Everything was accurate. Even bigger words. For 10, its quality degraded for sure. At times it is very very irritating. But cannot help it. I love windows. No choice.
    Things i do for love... I tell you...
    :D
    libra89 and CraigCole like this.
    12-15-2016 10:17 PM
  12. dashrendar's Avatar
    I have the same frustration... and this is mobile OS that is supposed to be targeted for business. Pshhh..
    01-03-2017 07:46 PM
  13. terra's Avatar
    Had to turn off suggestions, not sure where they were coming from. Very frustrating, as every sentence need to be checked.
    8.1 was much better.
    01-03-2017 08:26 PM
  14. Byrese's Avatar
    Yeah it's pretty bad I can't lie. I like W10M but this is one area that is lacking.

    Sent from my Lumia 950 on mTalk
    01-03-2017 10:27 PM
  15. Canjok's Avatar
    You are all lucky to have english as a native language. In Germany, we have an outdated dictionary. Many words have been changed in the 90's and the dictionary still uses the words before the reform.
    It is unforgivable of Microsoft to give us germans such a bad keyboard. I don't even think germany is the only country with such a bad experience. Also, we have the letters ä,ö,ü. Because one has to hold a, swipe the finger to ä and then release the finger, I only write a normal a instead of ä (consumes too much time). Autocorrect doesn't autocorrect this. My old Samsung device could do that. Funny thing is, on my old samsung with 3,3" I have less typing errors than on my 5" WM10 device.
    01-04-2017 06:29 PM
  16. Narr's Avatar
    I have German installed as well but find the experience better than writing in English. Oddly I get all of the new words Foto rather than Photo, Telefon etc. Also if I'm swiping a German word it will use the ä,ö or ü without any prompting, or have it as a suggestion and the ß is also correct.
    01-08-2017 07:53 AM
  17. kdk24z's Avatar
    I came searching on the forums to see if anyone else was having such a terrible experience with the swipe keyboard on Windows 10 Mobile. Ugh. It really is just TERRIBLE! I have a L925 that I loaded WM10 on just to try it out, and went back because the L925 just wasn't quite able to handle WM10 very well for me. The one thing I noticed DRASTICALLY was that when I went back to WM8.1 on my L925 was how much BETTER the swipe keyboard was again. The swipe keyboard on WM10 is a disaster and a complete FAIL!

    I purchased a wonderful L1520 from this site's 'Marketplace' forum and I really LOVE that phone! Since the L1520 can get WM10 legitimately, I went with that. I'm back again to SWEARING at the swipe keyboard. It's just REALLY freaking AWFUL!

    Is there anything that can be done other than wait to see if Microsoft fixes it?
    01-25-2017 04:03 PM
  18. mikosoft's Avatar
    It's even worse for other languages than English. I regularly switch between English and Slovak and Slovak suggestions are FAR worse than English. i can actually swipe a couple of sentences in English with minimal amount of errors while I have to type around 30-50% of Slovak words because the suggestions are completely off. I posted a feedback a while ago but there doesn't seem to be any improvement apart from what the keyboard has learned from me.
    I had to hard-reset my phone in the meantime and I'm not sure if my learned style carried over but it seems it has so at least that is a positive.
    01-26-2017 03:08 AM
  19. madcursor's Avatar
    It is really bad with other languages, but I have had a far better experience than most. For me, usually English works fine, apart from random capitalised letters but my native language suggestions are horrible. Some suggestions are so ridiculous that I think they made the keyboard too smart. The only explanation I can think of for this ridiculous prediction is that perhaps the keyboard learns the random typos along with actual words and since people make a lot of typos on phone, somehow it prioritises them over actual words. But that's just my experience. So now I just don't use word flow anymore. ****ty solution, but anything that reduces my headaches.
    01-26-2017 05:04 AM
  20. ananimus's Avatar
    "Me too!" post.

    For years I swore I hated phones without physical keyboards. Then I picked up a Lumia 720 just for kicks. OMG. WP8.1 Word Flow was absolutely amazing. I was completely sold that I'd never need buttons again (except camera, plzkthx). Even extremely complicated words or those with letters in the same row almost always worked. If it didn't catch it the first time, backing the word out and putting a short, deliberate pause on each letter worked every time.

    Couple months ago moved from a 735 up to 950. Thought, hey, maybe they'll also have fixed the one or two little mistakes the keyboard still makes, and that thinkpad nub looks sweet.

    Still haven't fully posted in the 950 review thread because, holy &@^$^ $^&!&^%! This keyboard is a worthless, steaming pile in comparison and I just can't get over it.

    1) As someone put it very well above: it has the vocab of a 12 year old.
    2) It now inevitably fails hard at words with letters in the same row, and it still does not figure those words out, even if you try again with long, deliberate pauses.
    3) It gives incredibly high preference to the name of anyone in my contacts over ordinary words, even when it's painfully obviously incorrect for the context.
    4) It wants to capitalize the stupidest things. Like, why does it always want to capitalize "So"?! (This is not related to #2 for me, afaik.)
    5) The keyboard as an input device seems to not be treated the same in all contexts? Easiest example is Facebook App (Beta). I know the app is parsing text to see if you're inputting a friend's name. But somehow this interferes with autocorrect and other functions in a way I don't ever remember the 8.1 keyboard behaving.

    It really makes me appreciate the magic sauce that was the WP8.1 Word Flow keyboard. Much as I like a lot of the extras in W10M, I miss the old keyboard so badly I'm thinking of dropping back down to my 735. At this point I've almost completely abandoned using swipe gestures for any word longer than 5 letters, and I won't even bother starting to write emails longer than a sentence until I get back to my office computer. /rant
    02-19-2017 04:35 PM
  21. Canjok's Avatar
    Yeah I don't understand Microsoft. They make so much things just wrong. If we had ios or android, we simply could switch to a different keyboard. But on Wp, we have to stick with those stupid decisions they make.
    With the keyboard being a feature with high usage (the highest?), I'm wondering myself how Microsoft tests those features. Maybe they don't test their phones for daily usage. Who knows. /rant
    02-19-2017 04:54 PM
  22. fatclue_98's Avatar
    f we had ios or android, we simply could switch to a different keyboard.
    That's half true. Android let's you pick different keyboards. On iOS, no matter which 3rd party kb you choose it's still the same Apple layout. No dedicated .com key, no dedicated period key except for some username fields and word prediction is still limited to three words at a time.

    I'm in complete agreement with the rest here who feel Microsoft really screwed the pooch when they "revised" the word prediction from WP8.1.
    Laura Knotek, EspHack and libra89 like this.
    02-19-2017 06:23 PM
  23. EspHack's Avatar
    That's half true. Android let's you pick different keyboards. On iOS, no matter which 3rd party kb you choose it's still the same Apple layout. No dedicated .com key, no dedicated period key except for some username fields and word prediction is still limited to three words at a time.

    I'm in complete agreement with the rest here who feel Microsoft really screwed the pooch when they "revised" the word prediction from WP8.1
    .
    that's what usually happens when you try to fix what isn't broken and is considered by many as the BEST, period. kind of like trying to make a diamond harder, 99% of the time you will just shatter it
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    02-20-2017 12:22 AM
  24. fatclue_98's Avatar
    that's what usually happens when you try to fix what isn't broken and is considered by many as the BEST, period. kind of like trying to make a diamond harder, 99% of the time you will just shatter it
    Dream on.
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    02-20-2017 09:12 AM
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