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  1. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    I wouldn't exactly call them stable. Different yes, omnipresent yes. Stable, not so much. They're both having some issues with their latest iterations particularly with battery life. A paperweight in the middle of the day is no fun.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    Battery is great on my S7 edge; form 100% at wake up to 40-60% at go to bed time. Fast charge while I read in bed gives me 100% charge and I Power off. No issues noticed with OS so far but it was a labor to make it look executive and all round nice for my use - but it ain't Win 10 M like my ICON.

    I've had lots of iphones and ipads they've all been boring but perfectly functional. I still use an iPad for my Kindle reader. Can't beat it in bed.

    But what about the continuance of Insider Preview Builds on Windows phones for the next while? And what about the onset of OEM bloatware/crapware on Win phones in future?

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14977.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
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    01-02-2017 04:20 PM
  2. EspHack's Avatar
    This is exactly why I didn't buy another Lumia after my 640 XL and went with the Idol 4s instead
    why's that? I think even today and for the next year or so I can guarantee you that the lumias will have better support, and even after that, there's no reason to hope that 3rd parties like alcatel will have better support
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    01-02-2017 04:25 PM
  3. slivy58's Avatar
    I wouldn't exactly call them stable. Different yes, omnipresent yes. Stable, not so much. They're both having some issues with their latest iterations particularly with battery life. A paperweight in the middle of the day is no fun.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    Maybe in your case but from my personal experiences they have been what I'd consider, rock solid. Out of the 9 Android/iOS devices I now own, only one needed a reset in 2016, in 2015 the number of devices was only 7 yet resets/issues still stands at one. So basically we've had little to no problems with these platforms in a 2 year span so ya I'd say, in my situation, they are stable.

    On the other hand, a year with Windows Phone has exceeded that number tenfold and if we factor in a 2 year period, it becomes downright insane.
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    01-02-2017 04:26 PM
  4. slivy58's Avatar
    Exactly. Nothing in tech is stable. It is ever changing.

    Sent from mTalk
    Depends how you look at it, 100% stable or "acceptably" stable. For me it's the latter because even I know nothing is perfect.
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    01-02-2017 04:29 PM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Maybe in your case but from my personal experiences they have been what I'd consider, rock solid. Out of the 9 Android/iOS devices I now own, only one needed a reset in 2016, in 2015 the number of devices was only 7 yet resets/issues still stands at one. So basically we've had little to no problems with these platforms in a 2 year span so ya I'd say, in my situation, they are stable.

    On the other hand, a year with Windows Phone has exceeded that number tenfold and if we factor in a 2 year period, it becomes downright insane.

    The Nougat update has seriously affected the battery life on many devices. My LG G5 was one and T-Mobile actually sent me an email regarding the issue. Apple's 10.3 is a well-documented case of sour battery life across the board. Since there are so many Android OEMs it's very likely you haven't been affected. But the problem exists for LG, some Motos and some HTCs. Then again, the Nougat adoption rate isn't what you would call "widespread" so it's understandable if you're not aware. But don't tell me the problem's not real.
    Android Nougat hits 0.4% adoption after 3 months | VentureBeat | Dev | by Jordan Novet
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    01-02-2017 05:36 PM
  6. fatclue_98's Avatar
    But what about the continuance of Insider Preview Builds on Windows phones for the next while? And what about the onset of OEM bloatware/crapware on Win phones in future?
    With very few exceptions, bloatware is uninstallable on Windows Mobile so I've never considered it an issue. As for the Insider builds, I'm finding there are more bugs than fixes since the AU with each build so I'm staying put with RTMs. Very reminiscent of the CM nightlies from a few years ago.
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    01-02-2017 05:41 PM
  7. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    With very few exceptions, bloatware is uninstallable on Windows Mobile so I've never considered it an issue. As for the Insider builds, I'm finding there are more bugs than fixes since the AU with each build so I'm staying put with RTMs. Very reminiscent of the CM nightlies from a few years ago.
    Thanks, man. That's good to hear on the bloatware and understood on the Insider Builds since the AU, though I hope to stick with it as long as I can.

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14977.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    01-02-2017 06:01 PM
  8. slivy58's Avatar
    The Nougat update has seriously affected the battery life on many devices. My LG G5 was one and T-Mobile actually sent me an email regarding the issue. Apple's 10.3 is a well-documented case of sour battery life across the board. Since there are so many Android OEMs it's very likely you haven't been affected. But the problem exists for LG, some Motos and some HTCs. Then again, the Nougat adoption rate isn't what you would call "widespread" so it's understandable if you're not aware. But don't tell me the problem's not real.
    Android Nougat hits 0.4% adoption after 3 months | VentureBeat | Dev | by Jordan Novet
    Don't believe I insinuated that Android and iOS don't have their share of problems but basically did state the facts that, in my household, problems have been far and few between on those two platforms so I view them as stable and reliable. IMO there's no other way for me to look at it, take it or leave it.
    01-02-2017 07:30 PM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Don't believe I insinuated that Android and iOS don't have their share of problems but basically did state the facts that, in my household, problems have been far and few between on those two platforms so I view them as stable and reliable. IMO there's no other way for me to look at it, take it or leave it.
    No, you didn't insinuate anything but you did say it was probably something only I was experiencing since none of your 9 Androids were having the problems. I was also clear that it was a Nougat and 10.3 problem. You may be on Marshmallow for all I know. If we're going to list every issue for every mobile OS ever released we might as well start our own Wiki page. A long one at that.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
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    01-02-2017 08:16 PM
  10. Shahroz Naeem's Avatar
    Here in Canada Amazon.ca still appears to have stock on many variants of Microsoft and Nokia Lumia's, as to the actual quantities left for most that's anyone's guess. Just purchased another 650 with an Amazon online retailer who's now showing 7 left in stock.
    I'm not in or around the US.
    01-03-2017 08:50 AM
  11. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    I'm not in or around the US.
    Google the phone model you want and then look through the listings.

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14977.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
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    01-03-2017 09:33 AM
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