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  1. EspHack's Avatar
    dont worry, that means you could upgrade to a 100$ x3 or idol not so long from now, maybe nokia throws a bone with their nokia 8 having support for a w10m rom like the xiami 4

    thats actually what I've always wanted, microsoft, let me install wp on whatever damn phone I want, they all run pretty much the same class of qualcomm or mediatek chips, there's no longer an excuse for diverse hardware
    Rosebank, wgrs and Ek-Balam like this.
    01-18-2017 04:58 PM
  2. patcherd's Avatar
    Let's hope there is something in the works and Microsoft will surprise everybody. What that is or isn't ? I guess we will know in time.


    If Whartonbrooks don't pan out then I will probably get an android device from Nokia and keep my L950 and 650 to use until whenever.
    Rosebank likes this.
    01-18-2017 05:01 PM
  3. Sedp23's Avatar
    The "best" thing in Idol is lack of NFC๐Ÿ˜Ž Guys, we are in 21st century, it's ridiculous that a device which aspires to be a high end device lacks NFC. Even my cheap Android phone has NFC on the board so I can use phone to pay with HCE technology.
    Let's face it tho nfc works on what 2 phones? I could care less the wallet app is crap amd bank support is crap too so nfc isn't a big deal

    Sent from Idol 4S
    Rosebank likes this.
    01-18-2017 05:07 PM
  4. js14873's Avatar
    I've been holding out hope for W10M for over a year now, and not only will my next phone be an Android, I'm pretty close to dropping Microsoft services altogether. I find the Outlook.com interface to be more intuitive than Gmail, but ever since they updated it, data for my contacts has been doing all sorts of stupid stuff. Changing on it's own, deleted contacts reappearing, contacts being duplicated, etc. I don't know where MS is hiring their programmers from but frankly it's garbage.
    twrist, CraigCole and J Dubbs like this.
    01-18-2017 05:11 PM
  5. Rosebank's Avatar
    I use Nfc for my Hd10 screen cast, I have to admit its handy and I use Nfc for connecting to a speaker system, no banking apps exist for the UK, not a single app or bank supported via windows mobile, but Android offer apps for different banks.
    The App issue is crippling the windows platform.
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    01-18-2017 05:15 PM
  6. Cane Prevost's Avatar
    I love my Lumia 1520 more than I should but I don't actually use it because of the app gap. If there were actual apps on windows phone I'd happily use that phone for years.
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    01-18-2017 05:16 PM
  7. MichalR's Avatar
    Same for me, but I have to say I cheated myself saying that Windows has everything I need. It has not, unfortunately. Going to Android I see now how the mobile OS should work. Before Windows I used iOS but lost heart for Apple, mainly due to iTunes which is still required for some things. But I'm still waiting for MS to shock me with Windows, so don't sell my Lumias yet ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    01-18-2017 05:33 PM
  8. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    Lott of you folks must not read any Tech Media at all. You seem to get all your news here from each other and feed off each others' negative vibes. But you keep coming back here. Is it like misery loves company?

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 15007.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    01-18-2017 05:41 PM
  9. Iain_S's Avatar
    we just had the release of the x3 and this week the global idol 4s. More phones will be coming in the spring from oems, the OS is updated constantly, the store is not a real issue for me as I can find the apps that I use daily and regularly. Stay optimistic things will improve this year as we go 64bit and devices at the end of the year start going full 10 ARM with mobile.
    01-18-2017 05:49 PM
  10. TgeekB's Avatar
    Same for me, but I have to say I cheated myself saying that Windows has everything I need. It has not, unfortunately. Going to Android I see now how the mobile OS should work. Before Windows I used iOS but lost heart for Apple, mainly due to iTunes which is still required for some things. But I'm still waiting for MS to shock me with Windows, so don't sell my Lumias yet ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    I feel like in Android the OS controls you. In Windows you control the OS. I have had many Android devices and they are fun to play around with, but too busy. I like clean and efficient.

    Sent from mTalk
    barotropic likes this.
    01-18-2017 05:57 PM
  11. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The number of apps that have decided to cease support in just the last couple of days is very disturbing. Minecraft, Runtastic and Smart Things are some examples that come to mind. When you add in Amazon, PayPal, eBay, BBM and others it starts looking like a very bad trend. I'll admit, I'm starting to wonder which really important app will be next. That Moto X Pure Edition on sale at Best Buy is starting to look attractive even though I thoroughly dislike Android. Laura, help a brutha out. What's the skinny on this beast.
    01-18-2017 06:03 PM
  12. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    The number of apps that have decided to cease support in just the last couple of days is very disturbing. Minecraft, Runtastic and Smart Things are some examples that come to mind. When you add in Amazon, PayPal, eBay, BBM and others it starts looking like a very bad trend. I'll admit, I'm starting to wonder which really important app will be next. That Moto X Pure Edition on sale at Best Buy is starting to look attractive even though I thoroughly dislike Android. Laura, help a brutha out. What's the skinny on this beast.
    I took you for a Jedi.... now here you are askin' Laura for help. What gives!?

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 15007.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
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    01-18-2017 06:15 PM
  13. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I took you for a Jedi.... now here you are askin' Laura for help. What gives!?

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 15007.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    She gotz the MXPE. But since you're offering, I'm also considering the S7 Edge. Gimme the straight up 411.
    01-18-2017 06:26 PM
  14. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    She gotz the MXPE. But since you're offering, I'm also considering the S7 Edge. Gimme the straight up 411.
    I have mine stripped down and "nothin'" but the apps I use ready to hand on home screen 2 mostly -only the MOST important on the Home Page. It looks very 'executive' and there's nothin' that I use (so that I know of) that doesn't hum.

    Now if you need apps and other stuff for kids, wife, etc. just put it on the 3,4th pages.

    Overall, personally, it's like a Rolls or a Bentley - yeah a Bently.

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 15007.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
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    01-18-2017 06:38 PM
  15. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    She gotz the MXPE. But since you're offering, I'm also considering the S7 Edge. Gimme the straight up 411.
    It also has a GREAT battery with SUPREME fast charging.

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 15007.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
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    01-18-2017 06:48 PM
  16. Ariel Takom's Avatar
    Ahhhh, woke up to a fine day, read the forums, and here we go again. Another post about how W10M is dying and how we, the fans, feel about it. Usually I ignore such posts because OP may have no idea how many posts like these are in the forum. Almost a post a day! /rant

    Guys, W10M is dying, but it will not be forgotten It will leave it's legacy, as you have already seen how WP 7 and 8.x's well known Live Tiles are now being implemented into Windows 10. IMO, W10M will be used as another 'mode' for Windows 10 in the future via W10 for ARM. From the main site, you can see that Microsoft has patented an idea of a tablet-like device that can be folded into a smaller 'phone' form factor. So imagine a tablet, similar to Surface Pros, able to be transformed into a phone. Would it be practical to use the 'desktop' or 'tablet' mode W10 UI on such a small form factor? To me, it's a big NO. But W10M's interface is very nice. Wait! What if....

    Yes. I really believe that W10M is dying, but instead of removing it entirely, Microsoft is trying it's best to phase the "phone" aspect out of W10M (in a sense that they're removing W10M's dependency on a just a phone device), and implement it as a mode for W10. IMO, W10M already has Continuum, where there's a transition of Phone UI -> Desktop UI. I'm guessing that with the Surface Phone, Microsoft is going 'backwards', or more accurately, allow free transition between both; Desktop UI <-> Phone. My reasoning on why this may be the case is because, well, W10M is dying, yet just about a week or two ago Microsoft just released a new build for W10M in the Fast Ring (build 15007). Who in the right mind would still develop something for a dying project?

    I'll leave it to all of you to interpret. Also, as many others stated above, different people have different use case of their phone. Some are okay with how things are in the W10M's camp, some aren't. You alone have to decide how to deal with it, what others here say or do shouldn't matter much because at the end of the day, YOU are the one making the choice for YOURSELF, not us. If you feel W10M doesn't suit your needs, then there're Androids or iPhones out there that could better serve you. Want to leave but "not really", then get a secondary phone. Decent Android devices nowadays are dirt-cheap (there's even a $4 Android rofl), so if you want to go over to greener pastures, then you can go there via secondary phone, but keep your W10M device in case you'd still like to visit Mordor. Or, if you feel that W10M is sufficient for your needs, then stay. There's nothing wrong with it, your life will still go on as usual, and if you encounter any problems, I can bet 5000 imaginative dollars that you're not the only one, and hence can find others who share your problems here in this very forum.

    Have a nice day, folks! Now I'm gonna go out and live my life with my beloved 950. Ciao~
    01-18-2017 06:54 PM
  17. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    Ahhhh, woke up to a fine day, read the forums, and here we go again. Another post about how W10M is dying and how we, the fans, feel about it. Usually I ignore such posts because OP may have no idea how many posts like these are in the forum. Almost a post a day! /rant

    Guys, W10M is dying, but it will not be forgotten It will leave it's legacy, as you have already seen how WP 7 and 8.x's well known Live Tiles are now being implemented into Windows 10. IMO, W10M will be used as another 'mode' for Windows 10 in the future via W10 for ARM. From the main site, you can see that Microsoft has patented an idea of a tablet-like device that can be folded into a smaller 'phone' form factor. So imagine a tablet, similar to Surface Pros, able to be transformed into a phone. Would it be practical to use the 'desktop' or 'tablet' mode W10 UI on such a small form factor? To me, it's a big NO. But W10M's interface is very nice. Wait! What if....

    Yes. I really believe that W10M is dying, but instead of removing it entirely, Microsoft is trying it's best to phase the "phone" aspect out of W10M (in a sense that they're removing W10M's dependency on a just a phone device), and implement it as a mode for W10. IMO, W10M already has Continuum, where there's a transition of Phone UI -> Desktop UI. I'm guessing that with the Surface Phone, Microsoft is going 'backwards', or more accurately, allow free transition between both; Desktop UI <-> Phone. My reasoning on why this may be the case is because, well, W10M is dying, yet just about a week or two ago Microsoft just released a new build for W10M in the Fast Ring (build 15007). Who in the right mind would still develop something for a dying project?

    I'll leave it to all of you to interpret. Also, as many others stated above, different people have different use case of their phone. Some are okay with how things are in the W10M's camp, some aren't. You alone have to decide how to deal with it, what others here say or do shouldn't matter much because at the end of the day, YOU are the one making the choice for YOURSELF, not us. If you feel W10M doesn't suit your needs, then there're Androids or iPhones out there that could better serve you. Want to leave but "not really", then get a secondary phone. Decent Android devices nowadays are dirt-cheap (there's even a $4 Android rofl), so if you want to go over to greener pastures, then you can go there via secondary phone, but keep your W10M device in case you'd still like to visit Mordor. Or, if you feel that W10M is sufficient for your needs, then stay. There's nothing wrong with it, your life will still go on as usual, and if you encounter any problems, I can bet 5000 imaginative dollars that you're not the only one, and hence can find others who share your problems here in this very forum.

    Have a nice day, folks! Now I'm gonna go out and live my life with my beloved 950. Ciao~
    And get in the habit of reading some tech news. You're NOT a techie if you don't keep up with the news.

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 15007.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    01-18-2017 06:58 PM
  18. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    Windows Phone died a while ago. W10M was never really alive.
    01-18-2017 07:44 PM
  19. cracgor's Avatar
    I'm beginning to lose hope and I been windows only since the gimped HTC touch pro 1 on Verizon. I'm going down with the ship tho I hate android and iPhone. Windows just needs more push and support from microsoft, oems and devs

    Sent from Idol 4S
    ...and from consumers. It's like neither consumers, microsoft, oems, or devs want the phone to succeed.
    01-18-2017 08:19 PM
  20. Schnuffi's Avatar
    I will most likely leave this year the app gap is getting tiring, and the apps I use the most are FB and messenger. Both the worst experience on this platform.
    Rosebank and twrist like this.
    01-18-2017 08:22 PM
  21. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    The number of apps that have decided to cease support in just the last couple of days is very disturbing. Minecraft, Runtastic and Smart Things are some examples that come to mind. When you add in Amazon, PayPal, eBay, BBM and others it starts looking like a very bad trend. I'll admit, I'm starting to wonder which really important app will be next. That Moto X Pure Edition on sale at Best Buy is starting to look attractive even though I thoroughly dislike Android. Laura, help a brutha out. What's the skinny on this beast.
    I'm happy with my Moto X Pure Edition. However, I haven't tried to make it emulate Windows 10 Mobile. The apps I need most are medical (MyChart), local grocery store (since I use their pharmacy and can order refills by taking a picture of the barcode), and for fun things like Amazon, eBay, PayPal, Mixcloud (a music podcast app).

    Your mileage may vary, but I'm satisfied with my device.
    01-18-2017 08:52 PM
  22. cracgor's Avatar
    I'm happy with my Moto X Pure Edition. However, I haven't tried to make it emulate Windows 10 Mobile. The apps I need most are medical (MyChart), local grocery store (since I use their pharmacy and can order refills by taking a picture of the barcode), and for fun things like Amazon, eBay, PayPal, Mixcloud (a music podcast app).

    Your mileage may vary, but I'm satisfied with my device.
    I find that if you try to make something emulate something else, you get a poor experience. Essentially, you spend hours handicapping the things that make one device useful to make it not function like the device you want it to be.
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    01-18-2017 09:40 PM
  23. Ariel Takom's Avatar
    And get in the habit of reading some tech news. You're NOT a techie if you don't keep up with the news.

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 15007.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    Does reading news from Windows Central (not the forums!) and watching podcasts from YouTube techie channels counts?

    Anyway, I don't consider myself a hardcore techie, just an above average consumer that reads a lot about tech stuff. I don't know a lot of details on specific technology i.e. photography, my knowledge comes from just what I read from the things that matter to me such as the progress of Windows 10 and Mobile, gaming, computers, mobile gadgets and accessories, as well as reading USEFUL inputs from other users, either the comments on the Windows Central and other tech sites' articles, their forums, or Reddit.

    So, yeah.
    01-18-2017 11:08 PM
  24. Matty's Avatar
    @Rosebank. I know where you are coming from. It's never nice to see the platform you love so much and use on daily basis slowly wither away. Especially when you can see no new devices are coming. Im not sure how many Blackberry 10 users are on this forum, but we are also in a boat with many holes haha. No new devices coming and the updates are sometimes more than 6 months apart. But it doesn't have to be all doom and gloom. Sometimes it allows us to explore other options like Android and IOS which we may actually like. :D

    I would still keep all your W10M devices in a collection and maybe one day they will be worth a lot since its 'rare'. :)
    Rosebank and Laura Knotek like this.
    01-19-2017 03:05 AM
  25. Rosebank's Avatar
    It's not just tech news and online reading that gives me cause for concern, although that is a big factor in my original forum posting, its the app issue and first hand experience of the device failing to do basic tasks, sometimes I cant even get past the lock screen and I am having issues, I have had 3 or 4 reboots just trying to unlock the device or accessing the camera from the phone being locked (a feature of the phone). That aside I know there are things planned for the future but as so many people are leaving I struggle to understand the strategy of this side of the company. I don't like to be negative but more realistic. If Microsoft are aiming for business customers then they need to get it right for the public everyday user first, set an example of efficiency, they are not doing that imho.
    01-19-2017 04:45 AM
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