01-30-2017 08:18 AM
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  1. ajayden's Avatar
    I hate to put this out there but I really do feel this platform is dying and fast too, every day I am hearing about apps no longer supported, phone faults, and update issues, I really wanted to back this platform but I feel (after only 3 months) that things are going from bad to worse, I am even reading that loyal windows phone fans are leaving in large numbers and this is very concerning, I am beginning to regret my purchase (L950).
    The platform seems static and no further phones from MS, suspected surface phone in the future but still nothing concreate, anyone else feeling this way? Its like watching a ship sink and being a part of it is not a good feeling. When I first joined W10M I was happy and optimistic but I don't feel that way now. What's more my L950 that cost £250 is now practically worthless as it wont sell as nobody demands the platform and if it did sell it would be for pennies.
    People have been saying this for more than 2 years but OS is still alive.
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    01-25-2017 02:07 AM
  2. Niel A's Avatar
    It was dying three years ago. Don't believe me, just do a search and read all about how the end is near and three years from now people will be able to find this thread in a search.

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
    Nah... Maybe for this time but technology is fast changing. I believe Microsoft is hiding something inside their sleeves. Let's just wait until Redstone 3 is released which btw is focused on mobile.
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    01-25-2017 02:54 AM
  3. bhavya26's Avatar
    Well I think Redstone 3 will be very Enterprise focused for mobile.
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    01-25-2017 05:53 AM
  4. whereismydamnphone's Avatar
    Nah... Maybe for this time but technology is fast changing. I believe Microsoft is hiding something inside their sleeves. Let's just wait until Redstone 3 is released which btw is focused on mobile.

    Says who ?

    Microsoft said Redstone 2 would be heavily focused on mobile, the update is supposed to be released in a couple of months, and if you ask me, it's shaping up to be pretty underwhelming.
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    01-25-2017 08:17 AM
  5. xandros9's Avatar
    People have been saying this for more than 2 years but OS is still alive.
    People have also been saying it will improve soon/once MS does X or Y but the OS is worse off than it was three years ago.
    01-25-2017 08:30 AM
  6. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    It all comes down to "can the phones now do what you need", if they can't you have options. If they can your fine and life will go on!!

    No matter how many people slap the panic button, I was here for the long haul, I am still here for the long haul, and I will stay for the long haul !!!

    I am not as active and vocal as I was, but I am in no rush to dump out my use of Windows 10 for mobile.
    01-25-2017 09:25 AM
  7. Rosebank's Avatar
    I feel the platform needs Samsung and Nokia on board because those phones are popular and sell in high numbers, Alcatel is not what the masses want, HP x3 too expensive. Samsung and Nokia could give the platform a boost. Personally I would not buy an Alcatel but I would buy the HP x3 if far cheaper and proved to be stable.
    Last edited by Rosebank; 01-25-2017 at 11:33 AM.
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    01-25-2017 11:02 AM
  8. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I feel the platform needs Samsung and Nokia on board because those phones are popular and sell in high numbers, Alcatel is not what the masses want, HP x3 too expensive. Samsung and Nokia could give the platform a boost. Personally I would not buy an Alcatel but I would buy the HP x3 if far cheaper and proved to be stable.
    Alcatel has the same image problems Hyundai had in the early 2000s. Great product but the public still had the perception of those Excel models from 1986.

    Anyone who bypasses the Idol 4S because of preconceived notions regarding the brand is doing themselves a great disservice. You mentioned you would buy the x3 if it was more stable? That's the Idol.
    01-25-2017 11:39 AM
  9. TgeekB's Avatar
    Alcatel has the same image problems Hyundai had in the early 2000s. Great product but the public still had the perception of those Excel models from 1986.

    Anyone who bypasses the Idol 4S because of preconceived notions regarding the brand is doing themselves a great disservice. You mentioned you would buy the x3 if it was more stable? That's the Idol.
    And remember, there are several versions of the Idol now so it's getting into more hands. It is an exceptional device and being talked about in tech circles. If they keep producing products like this they will make a name for themselves.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
    01-25-2017 01:23 PM
  10. mattiasnyc's Avatar
    Way too late for individuals to tweet Developers. That is not going to make any difference what so ever, MS have alienated customers and developer's alike.
    It may very well make a difference. The only thing we can state with absolute certainty is that NOT petitioning developers WILL guarantee that petitions (that don't exist) will be unheard and therefore with certainty won't influence them.

    And that's exactly my point when I mention that the negativity affects people's perceived options negatively. A self-fulfilling prophesy.
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    01-25-2017 04:01 PM
  11. Rosebank's Avatar
    It may very well make a difference. The only thing we can state with absolute certainty is that NOT petitioning developers WILL guarantee that petitions (that don't exist) will be unheard and therefore with certainty won't influence them.

    And that's exactly my point when I mention that the negativity affects people's perceived options negatively. A self-fulfilling prophesy.
    If you want to tweet developers by all means go ahead, I won't be wasting my time, it would take a tsunami of tweets to get a response Imo, developers community and word of mouth within that community regarding windows mobile platform is the biggest hurdle and problem because unless I am mistaken there seems to be a recent surge of apps stopping. Developers deciding to leave. Also for example, Facebook and Messenger two very big popular apps run terribly on this platform? Why? Our devices are powerful and plenty RAM yet we are looking at a lag delay of around 5-10 seconds average to get to a position where you can begin to type, this is not good enough.
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    01-25-2017 04:20 PM
  12. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    I personally think anyone who is a Windows phone fan, who really loves Windows 10 on ALL platforms, will find a way to keep a "good working", "good looking" Windows Phone in their stable. I've got my 3 going on 4 year old, mint condition ICON in mine. I may well, probably will, ride this out with my ICON. If not there'll be SOMETHING available that's absolutely do-able. The app-gap has no effect on my needs and will continue so.

    So, I'll go get stoned with y'all, but I won't be cryin' in my beer. And I WILL get stoned

    Everyone who is here now will either leave and then come back later or just stay and deal. But I'm tellin' ya, NOTHIN' beats a stable

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 15014.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    01-25-2017 05:40 PM
  13. paul87russell's Avatar
    I am a lumia 1520 user and sad to say, the windows 8 denim was far more responsive and snappy than the w10 update. And because of the ghost touch issue, I bought an android phone. I was an android user before switching to windows and i loved windows, but there is a lot of improvement in android now that amazed me. I hope that Microsoft can revitalize Windows mobile, but for now i'll stick to android as my primary phone.
    01-25-2017 07:42 PM
  14. MichalR's Avatar
    I am a lumia 1520 user and sad to say, the windows 8 denim was far more responsive and snappy than the w10 update. And because of the ghost touch issue, I bought an android phone. I was an android user before switching to windows and i loved windows, but there is a lot of improvement in android now that amazed me. I hope that Microsoft can revitalize Windows mobile, but for now i'll stick to android as my primary phone.
    Same with me. I was really surprised how Android evolved from crappy 2.x to mature 6.0. This is completely different OS now, fast, stable and easy to manage.
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    01-26-2017 02:50 AM
  15. Alyeldiin's Avatar
    It's Microsoft so called Business approach. Sure, they'll keep updating the OS, but that's probably about it. I really should have switched to Android or iOS earlier, now I regret it because I don't have too much money atm and if I sell my Lumia 950 I will lose too much of what I paid. Hopefully things will improve by the time I have enough money to make me change my mind, after all I don't really want to switch.
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    01-26-2017 05:17 AM
  16. Rosebank's Avatar
    I am struggling to sell my 950, I use a very popular selling platform in UK called gumtree, normally after 5 days on sale I would have received 10 or 20 sms but I have not received a single sms, I bought the phone for £250 and can't sell it for £150, early days but not looking good. Been selling on gumtree for 6 years, never had this lack of response in all that time.
    01-26-2017 06:22 AM
  17. MDK22's Avatar
    I am struggling to sell my 950, I use a very popular selling platform in UK called gumtree, normally after 5 days on sale I would have received 10 or 20 sms but I have not received a single sms, I bought the phone for £250 and can't sell it for £150, early days but not looking good. Been selling on gumtree for 6 years, never had this lack of response in all that time.
    Your price may be a tad high for a USED device.
    Possibly knock it down to £120, you may then get a response.
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    01-26-2017 06:48 AM
  18. Paisley Pirate's Avatar
    Its the hit and miss aspects of the browser part of W10m that frustrate me the most. IN THEORY if you live where you can be 100% connected to the web all of the time, the browser stuff seems great - but if you travel out in the country where you can't get a signal at all - a lot of stuff dies off quick. This isn't just a windows thing - but if they could do a bit better on that than iOS or Android and let it be known that it works - they could gain at least a few folks...

    Meanwhile, I feel like I'm riding down another roller coaster - like all tech platforms, they cycle up - and then they go away...
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    01-26-2017 07:01 AM
  19. Rosebank's Avatar
    Your price may be a tad high for a USED device.
    Possibly knock it down to £120, you may then get a response.
    3 months old, still under warranty gradeA, boxed. :-(
    01-26-2017 07:17 AM
  20. daniel stoian's Avatar
    The only major problem with this platform is stability ! I am an average consumer ( that part of the market which MS craps on) and honestly I like it ! It's easy to use and wonderful in design. But damn the performance. Even Microsoft's own apps breakdown, take ages to load ( when they do, if they do ) and seem to have no support. And from what I've read, Continuum is unusable for more than a few minutes no matter what device you use it with. Seems to me that those in charge of this platform are completely out of touch with reality. Ok ! This is mainly an enterprise thing, business oriented. Who gives a damn about emojis anyway and pokemon. And I would gladly use Edge shortcuts and Favorites Bar instead of apps. But how can one do that without performance and stability ?! Very disappointed with MS at the lack of professionalism and respect for its customers !
    Last edited by daniel stoian; 01-26-2017 at 07:58 AM. Reason: windows crappy correcting
    01-26-2017 07:55 AM
  21. TgeekB's Avatar
    Your price may be a tad high for a USED device.
    Possibly knock it down to £120, you may then get a response.
    Yup. I have mine on Ebay and I am getting bids.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
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    01-26-2017 08:07 AM
  22. TgeekB's Avatar
    The only major problem with this platform is stability ! I am an average consumer ( that part of the market which MS craps on) and honestly I like it ! It's easy to use and wonderful in design. But damn the performance. Even Microsoft's own apps breakdown, take ages to load ( when they do, if they do ) and seem to have no support. And from what I've read, Continuum is unusable for more than a few minutes no matter what device you use it with. Seems to me that those in charge of this platform are completely out of touch with reality. Ok ! This is mainly an enterprise thing, business oriented. Who gives a damn about emojis anyway and pokemon. And I would gladly use Edge shortcuts and Favorites Bar instead of apps. But how can one do that without performance and stability ?! Very disappointed with MS at the lack of professionalism and respect for its customers !
    Which phone?

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
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    01-26-2017 08:08 AM
  23. daniel stoian's Avatar
    Lumia 532. First compact smartphone to come from the Microsoft-acquired Nokia.
    01-26-2017 08:49 AM
  24. Canjok's Avatar
    now I regret it because I don't have too much money atm and if I sell my Lumia 950 I will lose too much of what I paid.
    Be careful. Selling the 950 and buying a xiaomi redmi 3s (150€) could give you an improved experience overall. It's more stable, easier to use, has better battery and all the apps. Of course there is the hardware downgrade, but sometimes just switching is better than sticking.
    Living without frustration has higher value than a few bucks.
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    01-26-2017 09:14 AM
  25. TgeekB's Avatar
    Lumia 532. First compact smartphone to come from the Microsoft-acquired Nokia.
    That's only got the snapdragon 200, right?

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
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    01-26-2017 09:51 AM
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