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  1. Rosebank's Avatar
    Yup. I have mine on Ebay and I am getting bids.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
    What price you expecting?
    01-26-2017 10:31 AM
  2. TgeekB's Avatar
    What price you expecting?
    If I get $125 or more that would be fine with me. Bought it used over a year ago and got plenty of use out of it.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
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    01-26-2017 10:37 AM
  3. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Same with me. I was really surprised how Android evolved from crappy 2.x to mature 6.0. This is completely different OS now, fast, stable and easy to manage.
    It's simple, Android improved literally overnight because of a man named Matias Duarte. He was the "father" of webOS and came to lead software development and design at Android. His first phone release was ICS 4.0 and the difference between that and the previous Gingerbread was sooooo obvious.

    Windows Mobile could sure use a bright mind like his. Or at least bring back whoever came up with WP7.5.
    01-26-2017 01:42 PM
  4. MichalR's Avatar
    I was far away from using Android since years. In the Gingerbread era I have been using iOS, few years later switched to Windows hoping that there is a bright future for this OS. Unfortunately the stagnation of Windows Mobile is huge so I got back to Android (don't like iOS at all and the Apple politics).
    01-26-2017 02:12 PM
  5. FTella's Avatar
    I don't think the OS is stagnated as was said in other posts; we receive frequent updates improving things. It's true that most developers work first for Android and IPhone, and if they have some extra time and money, they deliver a so-so quality app for WP (sometimes we are surprised with great apps though), but if Microsoft manages to load PC apps inside a phone, that can be a game changer.

    Cheers!
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    01-26-2017 04:46 PM
  6. MichalR's Avatar
    PC apps on phones don't make any sense until they get touch interface. Without Continuum support and without touch UI they will be unusable. Speaking about delivering apps for current Windows Mobile you seem to be wrong, there is a tendency to remove apps from the store rather than add new.
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    01-27-2017 01:33 AM
  7. Rosebank's Avatar
    Got my first offer on my L950 today, £80, Grade A, Boxed, Under Warranty and only 3 months old. Such a lovely device sadly let down by MS and a poor Strategy.
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    01-27-2017 01:11 PM
  8. TgeekB's Avatar
    Got my first offer on my L950 today, £80, Grade A, Boxed, Under Warranty and only 3 months old. Such a lovely device sadly let down by MS and a poor Strategy.
    Why don't you keep it as a backup it for insider updates? Seems a shame to lose so much.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
    01-27-2017 01:45 PM
  9. Rosebank's Avatar
    Why don't you keep it as a backup it for insider updates? Seems a shame to lose so much.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
    Minimum I will take is £140, that's a £110 loss in 3 months, If I don't get £140 I will keep it as a backup and to see what MS have up their sleeves if anything, Back to using Android and I am liking it, inferior device to the L950 but handy apps again. If this sells I will look to buy an S6.
    01-27-2017 01:53 PM
  10. mattiasnyc's Avatar
    If you want to tweet developers by all means go ahead, I won't be wasting my time, it would take a tsunami of tweets to get a response Imo,
    Like I said, the only way to guarantee that doesn't happen is to not contact the developers and to tell (or imply) people not to. We can try to grow the community, or we can try to kill it.

    unless I am mistaken there seems to be a recent surge of apps stopping. Developers deciding to leave. Also for example, Facebook and Messenger two very big popular apps run terribly on this platform? Why? Our devices are powerful and plenty RAM yet we are looking at a lag delay of around 5-10 seconds average to get to a position where you can begin to type, this is not good enough.
    I don't have to wait that long, and my apps haven't recently begun to stop. The experiences seem to be pretty personal and I'm betting there is a larger percentage of people posting about problems than are just praising a phone/OS that is working well.
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    01-27-2017 01:55 PM
  11. mattiasnyc's Avatar
    The only major problem with this platform is stability ! I am an average consumer ( that part of the market which MS craps on) and honestly I like it ! It's easy to use and wonderful in design. But damn the performance. Even Microsoft's own apps breakdown, take ages to load ( when they do, if they do ) and seem to have no support.
    Which ones though? For me the messenger app, outlook calendar, outlook mail, edge, weather etc all load fine and work fine without crashing.

    And from what I've read, Continuum is unusable for more than a few minutes no matter what device you use it with.
    When I used it (my KVM switcher died) I had no problems really. It's just a slightly different experience. The one issue would be just what you do with your phone when using Continuum, and certainly some things will slow the experience down. But for me, to just turn on a monitor in the morning and have keyboard / mouse access to email etc was great.
    01-27-2017 01:58 PM
  12. John Wolf1's Avatar
    If you want to tweet developers by all means go ahead, I won't be wasting my time, it would take a tsunami of tweets to get a response Imo, developers community and word of mouth within that community regarding windows mobile platform is the biggest hurdle and problem because unless I am mistaken there seems to be a recent surge of apps stopping. Developers deciding to leave. Also for example, Facebook and Messenger two very big popular apps run terribly on this platform? Why? Our devices are powerful and plenty RAM yet we are looking at a lag delay of around 5-10 seconds average to get to a position where you can begin to type, this is not good enough.
    I'm beginning to think three platforms is too much for devs to handle. They not only have to develop the app but keep on fixing bugs and add features. Trust me, no one is going to develop for a platform that only has 0.5% market share, they didn't do it when it was close to 5 percent. They don't have time to waste on something so insignificant.
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    01-27-2017 03:30 PM
  13. Joe920's Avatar
    Trust me, no one is going to develop for a platform that only has 0.5% market share
    Very few people indeed, but then once in a while a great UWP app comes out. I've been using the Grover Pro podcast app which is amazing, and it is available for all devices that run UWP. That includes niche devices such as hololenses, hubs, and ... phones! :)
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    01-27-2017 04:33 PM
  14. Patata Johnson's Avatar
    With Acer not releasing Anniversary Update for the Jade Primo and probably not supporting that device at all anymore it proofs that W10m isn't a plattform that non fanboys should invest any money in.
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    01-27-2017 06:33 PM
  15. fatclue_98's Avatar
    With Acer not releasing Anniversary Update for the Jade Primo and probably not supporting that device at all anymore it proofs that W10m isn't a plattform that non fanboys should invest any money in.
    I'm hardly a fanboy and I don't have any issues buying their products. Acer decided to withhold the AU because they felt the update was unstable and I'm sure they didn't want the bad press like HP has endured with the x3. Reading a headline and forming an opinion without having all the facts is what contributes to uninformed diatribe. There was a statement from Acer you know.
    01-27-2017 09:37 PM
  16. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    I'm hardly a fanboy and I don't have any issues buying their products. Acer decided to withhold the AU because they felt the update was unstable and I'm sure they didn't want the bad press like HP has endured with the x3. Reading a headline and forming an opinion without having all the facts is what contributes to uninformed diatribe. There was a statement from Acer you know.
    "...uninformed diatribe...." THAT'S A KEEPER !!!

    EDIT>>>> That's worthy of my "William F Buckley, Jr." speaking award.
    When I was accused of that once in the past, I was referred to as "...goin' off half-cocked." I would have much preferred the dignity of being called guilty of an "uninformed diatribe."


    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 15014.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    Last edited by Shamshi-Adad; 01-28-2017 at 12:23 PM.
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    01-28-2017 09:31 AM
  17. Rosebank's Avatar
    Can I ask, Regarding Facebook and Messenger App, are folks having delays using these two apps, I certainly am and I have read a recent thread on the mater I am sure, The delay is from opening the app from scratch, for example if I load Messenger its at least 10 seconds (sometimes longer) before it is usable. This includes receiving a messenger notification and trying to respond to that notification, On Android I have responded and moved on to something else before I can even type on the W10M L950.
    01-28-2017 10:59 AM
  18. Player Piano's Avatar
    Can I ask, Regarding Facebook and Messenger App, are folks having delays using these two apps, I certainly am and I have read a recent thread on the mater I am sure, The delay is from opening the app from scratch, for example if I load Messenger its at least 10 seconds (sometimes longer) before it is usable. This includes receiving a messenger notification and trying to respond to that notification, On Android I have responded and moved on to something else before I can even type on the W10M L950.
    I've rolled back to both 8.1 apps. They were so much more fast and fluid than the current W10M apps.
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    01-28-2017 11:08 AM
  19. Rosebank's Avatar
    I've rolled back to both 8.1 apps. They were so much more fast and fluid than the current W10M apps.
    Thankyou,
    01-28-2017 11:13 AM
  20. PerfectReign's Avatar
    I've rolled back to both 8.1 apps. They were so much more fast and fluid than the current W10M apps.
    I almost have but don't use them enough to worry. Plus I submit feedback regularly on them.

    Sent from mTalk
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    01-28-2017 11:42 AM
  21. John Wolf1's Avatar
    Just watch the money people. The latest quarterly reports is Phone has lost over 80% year over year. Just stop with the windows phone convo. No company can continue with that type of revenue loss. Move on
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    01-28-2017 02:39 PM
  22. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    Just watch the money people. The latest quarterly reports is Phone has lost over 80% year over year. Just stop with the windows phone convo. No company can continue with that type of revenue loss. Move on
    "Informed Diatribe."

    Kinda short for a diatribe...

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 15014.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
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    01-28-2017 02:46 PM
  23. TgeekB's Avatar
    Just watch the money people. The latest quarterly reports is Phone has lost over 80% year over year. Just stop with the windows phone convo. No company can continue with that type of revenue loss. Move on
    Sure, because they haven't been focusing on mobile as I understand it. They are designing their platform, which will include mobile. It's a completely different approach, and it doesn't mean their phone business will be abandoned.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
    01-28-2017 02:48 PM
  24. Rosebank's Avatar
    Just watch the money people. The latest quarterly reports is Phone has lost over 80% year over year. Just stop with the windows phone convo. No company can continue with that type of revenue loss. Move on
    That comparison is useless because MS don't Manufacture new Lumias, they have been clearing stock, so as a result of clearing stock and very little stock being left the 80% reduction is a direct result. The following Q reports will be even higher. These figures don't include Alcatel and HP etc, as I was researching these figures only last night.
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    01-28-2017 02:52 PM
  25. TgeekB's Avatar
    That comparison is useless because MS don't Manufacture new Lumias, they have been clearing stock, so as a result of clearing stock and very little stock being left the 80% reduction is a direct result. The following Q reports will be even higher. These figures don't include Alcatel and HP etc, as I was researching these figures only last night.
    Good point. Would like to know how sales of those phones are doing.

    Sent from my Alcatel Idol 4S
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    01-28-2017 02:59 PM
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