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  1. dorelse's Avatar
    @dorelse - was device selection the main factor? Or is coverage and speed better as well?
    The ability to bring my own phone was paramount. Coverage for tmobile in IA is crap anywhere but the freeway or major cities. Once you're outside of Des Moines, you're on g3 on iWireless....but it works, and its cheap!
    03-20-2017 04:00 PM
  2. Iain_S's Avatar
    I really like windows mobile and have for quite a few years, going from a Samsung focus up to the current x3 and idol pro 4. That being said I currently find windows 10 mobile to be in much disarray, even with the current fast ring I am hoping MS stop craping the bed with this and come to the table with some serious upgrade and work on windows 10 for mobile with RS3. My daily driver right now is the iPhone 7 plus because of the stability, the apps and how the camera works, I also have a Samsung s7 edge too. At this point in time if MS can not get its **** together with mobile in the very near future I will drop it completely.
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    03-20-2017 07:45 PM
  3. James Falconer's Avatar
    The ability to bring my own phone was paramount. Coverage for tmobile in IA is crap anywhere but the freeway or major cities. Once you're outside of Des Moines, you're on g3 on iWireless....but it works, and its cheap!
    Of course. Bringing your own phone and the ability to switch between devices should you choose is a pretty darn good thing!
    aximtreo likes this.
    03-20-2017 08:03 PM
  4. Jose_Vasquez's Avatar
    Hi,

    Please can you help me with this:

    Currently I use an android phone after several lumias, I wan come back can you tell me if these app work correctly at this time on W10M. I want to buy a lumia 1020 for the great camera.

    -Facebook
    -WhatsApp
    -INSTAGRAM
    -Edge
    -Office

    Other question the lumia 1020 still join a insider w10m?

    Regards,

    José
    03-21-2017 07:35 AM
  5. libra89's Avatar
    Hi,

    Please can you help me with this:

    Currently I use an android phone after several lumias, I wan come back can you tell me if these app work correctly at this time on W10M. I want to buy a lumia 1020 for the great camera.

    -Facebook
    -WhatsApp
    -INSTAGRAM
    -Edge
    -Office

    Other question the lumia 1020 still join a insider w10m?

    Regards,

    José
    WhatsApp is supported and generally updated occasionally from what I hear. Facebook is problematic, most people use Edge or a third party app like SlimSocial for it. Instagram has most of the features it has on the other 2 platforms, it is updated here and there. Office gets updated often. Edge is generally fine.

    I doubt that you can join Insider with that phone but I'm not too sure.
    Jose_Vasquez and aximtreo like this.
    03-21-2017 08:39 AM
  6. cnashx's Avatar
    I have used just about every OS (mobile and desktop).
    When I was younger and a hardcore computer gamer it was always Windows and a simple Nokia or Nextel phone, then onto Windows Mobile way back. Had a few iPhones (1, 4, 4s, 5, 5s, 6 plus), a couple androids and a couple blackberries, throw in a couple palms with Windows in there as well. I hadn't used any Windows phones from Windows Mobile until Windows 10 (skipped 7 & 8). I can't see myself going back to iOS or Android. I just really enjoy the layout of Windows.
    Currently I am using an original iPad for ONE application at my desk (IP camera that I can't get working on my Elite X3 or 950XL). But it doesn't get used for ANYTHING else. Every once in awhile I will boot up my old iPhone and realize how much I hate it.
    Windows 10 Mobile is just smooth and beautiful. More apps would be great and more phones would help a lot.
    Advertising is REQUIRED, but people I have shown it to see the capabilities and want to buy in but it lacks some of the daily features they require.
    03-21-2017 09:31 AM
  7. Jose_Vasquez's Avatar
    Thanks. and Thanks
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    03-21-2017 09:40 AM
  8. meattray's Avatar
    I've found it a very familiar story to the BlackBerry one with BB10. They're both fantastic os's but the lack of an ecosystem and consistent updates to the apps has really doomed it in the view of several people. Do they still work? Absolutely. They still are unbelievable in certain respects and I truly believe if they would have been a little earlier and had the ability to build out those ecosystems they would have been very successful. I do hope Windows can make a turnaround at some point and find that next "it" thing that pushes them back into the conversation.
    libra89 and Tunde Fajimi like this.
    03-21-2017 09:56 AM
  9. Choco_Lab's Avatar
    I never left WP/WM; I've had it for my last four phones.

    But it makes me so angry that I seem to care more about the OS than MSFT does. I really, really don't want to go to Apple or Google, both of which I dislike. But I may have to. It seems like every two weeks or so lately I have some problem with my Win Phone that I never had before. Last week it was the battery suddenly acting crazy. Today OneNote is going berzerk in a loop saying it can't sign in. This after very long stretches of time where my L920 or 640 or 950 worked perfectly fine.

    Someone said maybe MS is purposely pushing people away so they can write software for the other platforms. I don't know about that, but they certainly don't seem to care about us users. Even if you love this platform and don't want to leave, how long do you put up with a phone that glitches out on basic functions?

    So very disappointing.
    03-21-2017 03:13 PM
  10. TgeekB's Avatar
    I've found it a very familiar story to the BlackBerry one with BB10. They're both fantastic os's but the lack of an ecosystem and consistent updates to the apps has really doomed it in the view of several people. Do they still work? Absolutely. They still are unbelievable in certain respects and I truly believe if they would have been a little earlier and had the ability to build out those ecosystems they would have been very successful. I do hope Windows can make a turnaround at some point and find that next "it" thing that pushes them back into the conversation.
    Very true. BB10 was a very good OS but was too little too late. The big difference is MS is more than just phones, so they have the luxury to be on the sidelines and plan for the future. Blackberry had to survive or else. I think both will be fine though they took different paths.

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
    03-21-2017 04:57 PM
  11. meattray's Avatar
    Very true. BB10 was a very good OS but was too little too late. The big difference is MS is more than just phones, so they have the luxury to be on the sidelines and plan for the future. Blackberry had to survive or else. I think both will be fine though they took different paths.

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
    Exactly. It will be very interesting to see where things go for both of them.
    TgeekB likes this.
    03-21-2017 05:11 PM
  12. Tjalsma's Avatar
    Honestly, I wish I didn't want to come back...or stay for that matter. I feel like I am supporting a product that really isn't supported at all. I wish I could move on and forget but, well, here I am using my 950 instead of my iPhone.
    ananve likes this.
    03-22-2017 11:34 AM
  13. bdball's Avatar
    I would love to return to Windows Mobile but without new phones being released on Verizon it doesn't look like that will happen anytime in the near future. I have moved on to iphone but miss much of what I had with the Lumia 928. The 928 is still my alarm clock and mp3 player. It would be to difficult to move from Verizon for different reasons, so it's up to Microsoft to get me back.
    John Wolf1 and FXi2 like this.
    03-22-2017 11:39 AM
  14. don4law's Avatar
    I loved Windows Phone, but changed to Android about a year ago because I got sick of Microsoft's BS. Yes, I use Windows daily, but I had been waiting for the Surface phone for too long without any news from Microsoft, apps and vendors were retreating from MS, the number of apps shrinking, and MS's own devotion to the platform dwindling. Add to that all the mistakes by Microsoft in rolling out Windows 10, changing promises like certain OneDrive charges, and I just got fed up. In this day and age of dying technology often within months, holding my breath for MS to make any kind of accouncements became fatiguing. It seems to me they also not only neglected but completely disregarded their devoted base, including me, and no company that ignored loyal customers deserves my attention. Windows Mobile is more flexible than iPhone, more stable than Android, but now that I've changed I probably never will go back. I'm really just sick of MS. They let me down one to many times ...
    03-22-2017 11:43 AM
  15. srikanth reddy4's Avatar
    Even i use android phone. But i always miss my wp. So i started using android as back up phone when i need any apps that are not on wp which doesn't happen mostly. But using mails,documents on wp is so reliable and the fluidity of OS keeps me stick to WP. As of now only me and my brother are using WP. But when wp8.1 was released we convinced almost 10-15 of our friends to try WP.
    03-22-2017 11:47 AM
  16. omegadony's Avatar
    for me I am not even sure i will replace my surfaces or Lumias with another Windows 10 product when the time comes (when they break for ex.)

    Windows 10 has been a nightmare for me since day 1 on all my devices, the app gap for me i don't care but extreme unstability of Windows 10 mobile or pc is just too much

    everytime there is a new update pushed into prod (not insider) there is something thats stops working or crashes...

    also discontinuing the band does not help, not many wearable devices support Windows 10 mobile

    past couple of years have been pretty disapointing for me in the microsoft world :(
    03-22-2017 11:48 AM
  17. Witness's Avatar
    The only thing... The only thing that gives me wandering eyes is the lack of apps or feature parity in them. Even then, it's not too many. If MS can somehow show the devs how building the app for WM, then using their porting tools to export to iOS/Android is a viable approach, MS would finally be competitive. Huge mountain to overcome. Some of the apps I need are:


    • DJI Phantom
    • Safeway (this really shouldn't be all that hard)
    • Target Cartwheel (this really shouldn't be all that hard)
    • GoPro (feature parity)
    • Starbucks (feature parity; (this really shouldn't be all that hard)
    • iMovie-like video editor
    • Scotttrade
    • Chase/Citibank
    • Spotify (feature parity)
    • Yelp (feature parity)


    There are a couple others, but these are the ones that come to mind without looking at my iPhone that is sitting at home gutted in an attempt to replace the stupid battery for the past week and I haven't bothered to put back together.
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    03-22-2017 11:48 AM
  18. Billferreira's Avatar
    For all missing apps that are important to me, there is a useful go-around thru Edge except for one: topo navigation. Not only is there no good app for this, there is no app that even tries. Like 99+% of the apps on Apple's app store, most of them are useless but Terra Maps is a gem.

    We need to ignore absolute numbers. Apple/Google might each have a thousand useful apps at most. Windows mobile is missing maybe 100 important ones that Microsoft should just fund. Come on MS, this is chump change.
    03-22-2017 11:50 AM
  19. vEEP pEEP's Avatar
    I am still on WP. But I did come from Symbian only because Nokia got bought out.
    Still love W10m OS.

    But if Nokia came out with a high end phone on another OS, I would consider switching.

    My preference is Nokia comes back to WP....
    03-22-2017 11:52 AM
  20. rld082982's Avatar
    I would love to... but I just don't see myself ditching Android. It's just too good, with the google suite of apps. Google now especially. I have a Lumia that I keep updated to check out all the new "features" but still can't seem to accomplish the simplest of tasks without something freezing up or crashing. It's pretty sad. I get disgusted after 5 minutes using it.
    03-22-2017 11:56 AM
  21. Witness's Avatar

    also discontinuing the band does not help, not many wearable devices support Windows 10 mobile
    Discontinuing the Band was huge. There is no suitable replacement for it. Every other fitness band out there is missing several things or another with the Garmin Vivosmart HR+ coming closest, but no cigar.
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    03-22-2017 11:57 AM
  22. Jezza's Avatar
    Right now I love the OS and it's UI. However, it's hard to say if I would stay on the platform when my contract comes up for renewal and this is solely due to not only an app gap, but app parity.

    Some of the issues I face I can get around. For example I tend to do video calling on Facebook via my Surface, but one my phone I will opt for WhatsApp or Skype to get past this issue, but I really shouldn't have to. However, I have recently been selling a lot of eBay items and the thing I miss from the Android app is the ability to track bids and upload photos instantly without navigating a browser, this parity is a real frustration for me. The lack of Amazon video is a bit of a nuisance but not a deal breaker and it would also be nice, but not essential to play games like Pokémon GO, as well as have a decent tap to pay option here in the UK.

    Other than that I have no major complaints, but there are times when I'm discussing a new and fun app with a friend only to find I'm lacking it from my phone, which is a bit of a downer in social situations, with this in mind I'm having to weigh up the pros and the cons. I really want to keep my fluid and fun UI but some functionality is hard to pass up and as such I'm keeping an eye on what happens with Samsung and the S8.
    TgeekB likes this.
    03-22-2017 12:00 PM
  23. anon(9812986)'s Avatar
    I haven't left Windows Phone, but I do have a problem that's fast approaching.

    I'm still using a Lumia 830, and there are no current generation, carrier supported Windows Phones in my country (Canada). One national carrier still offers the 830, and there are no newer devices.

    It is, of course, possible to buy an Alcatel Idol 4S outright from Microsoft, but to be blunt, I'm not in a position where that would be a wise financial choice for me.

    Sooner or later, I'm going to decide I need a newer device, and I'm going to have a difficult choice to make.

    In my opinion, the hardware gap is more significant than the "app gap" at this point.
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    03-22-2017 12:02 PM
  24. Vittorio Vaselli's Avatar
    I love Windows Phone but because of app missing I am using an Android phone. My solution for missing the Os was to keep the 950 near the tv with a keyboard and mouse in living room and use it as my main pc. I do all the pc tasks with it but software development. I am also on fast ring hoping RS3 focus will finally be on Mobile.
    Tunde Fajimi likes this.
    03-22-2017 12:12 PM
  25. kambarrett's Avatar
    I've had all three. Back to 950xl... I can live with the app gap, because the windows os works fine with most websites. Comfortable, intuitive, feel more like I'm in control of my ui, seamless with office on my pc... Just feels right.
    TgeekB and FXi2 like this.
    03-22-2017 12:13 PM
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