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  1. DCTonkaTruck's Avatar
    I would like to come back. I want to come back. I'm waiting to come back.

    All I want is a flagship class phone on Verizon. I would love to have the features of the Elite x3, but I would be happy with something that ran Windows 10 mobile.

    I like the app position I am in with this ****ty Android right now, but I would be happy to go back to the best mobile OS if they were on my carrier of choice.
    03-22-2017 07:37 PM
  2. PauloP's Avatar
    I really like W10M now with the latest fast ring builds, but it's too late to have any hopes regarding the platform.

    The camera of my Lumia 950 is stellar and is certainly gonna be missed, but let's face it: MS really lost the battle. They should have stick with the 8.1 version, which was by far much more stable than any W10M iteration. Instead, they insisted in releasing a buggy OS in an already critical moment.

    What I see as a definitive dead end for W10M is the complete absence of car integration like Apple and Google have with CarPlay and Android Auto.

    P.S.:

    Here's some examples of how good Nokia and MS have made Lumias' cameras:







    No one beats a Lumia 950/XL when it comes to low light and audio capture.
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    03-22-2017 08:01 PM
  3. Ah Jeremy's Avatar
    Yes, I just decided to return fully to Windows Phone last 2 days, bought Lumia 950 XL online and going to get the phone tomorrow.

    My first Smartphone is Windows Phone HTC, back before Windows Phone Mango Patch released. I fell in love with the UI, the OS - like many others here too, I presumed. Then I bought Lumia 620 as a replacement, also Lumia 1020 Day 1 when it released.

    I decided to retire my Lumia 1020 by the start of 2017. It is been lagging and the experience hasn't been very good but the camera is understandable good. There, I jumped to my first non-Windows, an Android Redmi 3S.

    It wasn't good. It is Meh. Meh. Meh. Yeah, the Store has vast App Catalogue. I got it and I love being given such big access. However, in terms of UI, I don't think it could be comparable with Windows 10 Mobile. At least IMO. But there is some software features that Mi (Redmi 3S) built in its own Android are quite helpful - like Dual-App, allowing 2 WhatsApp or any other App or recently I find, the App-Restriction Rules for Data Roaming enable.

    I do not need to elaborate that Mi-Android Notification is terribly inconsistent and the Home Screen is simply pitiful. Plus, my experience with Mi-Android's Contact, it is weirdly built.

    Not to say Windows 10 Mobile's Contact is perfect. Windows 10 Mobile's Contact doesn't have Company field in the Name. Why? Why I have to separately add from Others? And why the Web People in my Web Outlook doesn't show Company field-name because some of my contact just have Company field-name as the only contact name.

    After I used my Redmi 3S for about a 1.5 months, I finally received my long-awaited Lumia 640XL from US, due to handling issue, it was delayed shipping. Anyway, I upgraded it to Windows 10 Mobile. It is somewhat lagging, probably due to its weak specs.

    I finally decided to switch my main phone or even possibly full to Windows 10 Mobile, one of the main few reasons is my recent discovery of WhatsApp Beta. Hence, this somewhat allow me to run 2 WhatsApp in my single phone.

    Hopefully, tomorrow and onwards after receiving my Lumia 950 XL, my experience with Windows 10 Mobile will continue to be better.

    EDIT: I think I will still keep my Redmi 3S around for the first few month. :)
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    03-22-2017 08:06 PM
  4. anon(9812986)'s Avatar
    @hankpym - how about the 950 or 950XL?
    I'd love to, but like I said, buying a new phone outright simply isn't an option for me right now.
    03-22-2017 08:14 PM
  5. RayWP7's Avatar
    Yeap, as a former owner of nearly every Windows phone/mobile device made, I would definitely come back. But only with a few conditions:

    I need (now) to be able to control my home automation, banking, and ... a mobile wallet. The top reason I would stick with iPhone (now) would be Apple Pay/ Wallet. It's just too damn convenient and helluva lot faster than CHIP transactions (for retailers that support it - and most of mine do). Thats it. Home Automation (i.e. SMARTHINGS WHY DID YOU LEAVE WINDOWS), banking (CHASE principally, but also all other major credit cards), and a fast and useful credit card wallet. Even Fandangos integration with Wallet is super convenient.

    I only ever left because I needed some stability and thought Microsoft's hiatus from Windows Mobile consumer was a good time to take that break. I participated in every beta, in every "ring", etc. I earned a break! (keeps telling myself, embarassed that I ever left at all ) I still hate iTunes. I still mostly loathe their boring interface. And I dislike proprietary connectors.
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    03-22-2017 08:36 PM
  6. ClixT's Avatar
    Well, I think it has been a year since I got my iPhone SE. I still have my 1520 and I use it daily as my mini tablet for watching YouTube, Netflix, etc. but yeah in a way I miss using it as my "phone" but I'm quite satisfied with my SE. I admit, I still prefer WMs UI than the SE. I got bored with SE a few months after I got it.

    Oh and would I come back fulltime to WM? Probably. There are some apps that I use daily that's not available on WM, but we'll see! I'm still optimistic with the future of Windows.
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    03-22-2017 09:16 PM
  7. mryan55's Avatar
    I have bounced around the mobile landscape quite a bit in the decade since my first smartphone. The early days were dominated by Windows Mobile devices, simply because it was near the peak of its market share when the Samsung Ace, HTC Touch Pro II, and HTC HD2 were out. In 2010 I switched over to BlackBerry and remained pretty faithful to the BBOS and BB10 platform until support started to disappear. With a few Android devices in between these other devices, I stumbled across the 950XL at launch in 2015. I had just purchased a Surface Book and was interested in having uniformity across my devices. I used the 950XL until an odd Outlook problem manifested itself last summer (emails not using the "Send Mail As" in the header -- meaning outgoing emails only show my email address, not name. Sadly, this problem still persists).

    I picked up a BlackBerry DTEK60 last fall at launch to try their flavor of Android, and I like it quite a bit. I still love the design of that device -- and the Alcatel Idol 4S as well. However, the HP Elite x3 being on sale for $599 with desk dock seemed like a fair deal compared to the 950XL at $649 at launch, and this is a much nicer example of industrial design... at least I'd say so.

    Not yet using the x3 as my daily driver, but getting things set up and giving Continuum a very big Test drive this time around.
    03-22-2017 09:38 PM
  8. nate0's Avatar
    Microsoft is in a difficult spot. It is taking a long time for them to get to a place where people can enjoy the world out there from there handheld. We really, ultimately do not know the plan from our perspective, and some times we have nothing to go on except that we know and can count on Microsoft continually bringing updates. But apps, OS features and awesomeness, and newer devices is taking a painfully long time. Folks who leave may never come back or if they do it will be a long time before they do...
    To me 12 months is long time, and peoples lives change way faster than that.
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    03-22-2017 09:49 PM
  9. mryan55's Avatar
    Originally posted by Nate W
    Microsoft is in a difficult spot. It is taking a long time for them to get to a place where people can enjoy the world out there from there handheld. We really, ultimately do not know the plan from our perspective, and some times we have nothing to go on except that we know and can count on Microsoft continually bringing updates. But apps, OS features and awesomeness, and newer devices is taking a painfully long time. Folks who leave may never come back or if they do it will be a long time before they do...
    To me 12 months is long time, and peoples lives change way faster than that.
    It's definitely looking like we could hit the 2+ year mark without a new Microsoft branded flagship. Although the Alcatel Idol 4S is great hardware and the Elite x3 is in the same boat, these devices will see much more limited distribution than a Lumia device. With the 'flagship' 950 and 950XL approaching 18 months on the market, many people have upgraded from that device and to Android or iOS simply because they are much easier carrier upgrade paths than trying to stick with Windows Phone or BlackBerry10, which has already seen all of its share disappear.
    03-22-2017 10:05 PM
  10. nate0's Avatar
    I know...I am in IT. iOS devices do not really appeal to me because of that. Android devices can be as buggy or more than a windows mobile phone. The are less secure, and honestly for lack of a better word, to me there is no substance there with Android. I feel I will always keep coming back to Windows mobile and phones as long as they exist.
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    03-22-2017 10:16 PM
  11. Sathees kumar's Avatar
    I am a long time WP user, have used many lumias.
    But due to 'app gap' and some other issues, i changed ships.
    As of now, i have an Iphone 6 from work, a One plus 3 as personal daily driver AND a 640 XL which i use occasionally when i get all nostalgic about WP

    To tell you guys the truth
    # Iphone is good when it comes to stability, apps, restoring from backups etc - but i always feel it is an overpriced phone with less user controls. It feels like a toy :P
    # One plus 3- very good camera, real fast charging but what puts me off is occasional heating up issues, battery drains real fast, hangs/freezes and occasional unexplained reboots. Is short, i cannot count on this device. Battery may drain unexpectedly, etc..
    # Lumia 640XL - love the UI, the plastic feel :P ( i hate metallic feel of the phones), very good camera, OS fluidity.. Occasional lags, app crashes are common but not show stoppers. I feel its real value for money **If you don't have issues with App gap**

    To Sum up, i love WP, have always loved it. BUT MS screwed it up :(
    App gap can get frustrating sometimes.
    I am not a big fan of apps. I mostly use twitter, mails, whatsapp, maps etc. All these seem to work well. BUT some apps like uber, banking apps ( Indian banks) and MS office seems to suck real bad !!!

    ** If MS "could" close the app gap for critical apps, spend some bucks on marketing, i believe WP can bring IOS and Android to their knees**

    Is it just me or you folks too get the same feeling or dumping IOS/android and moving back to "home" ;)
    What do you guys think? Please share views and opinions..
    03-22-2017 11:05 PM
  12. Shubham26's Avatar
    With me it's still that I don't even want/need to go away from Windows 10 Mobile :) The app gap is non-existent in my case. Recently I had a pleasure of helping a friend unpack and start-up a new android phone and every once in a while I thought how I'm glad to be on Windows.
    Me too. Bought android for my Mom and setting up that device was so much pain. settings in windows 10 mobile are so simple to find and understand. Above all there is no permanent way to disable an app to run in background unlike windows phones.

    The way ads are displayed in free version of apps is horrifying. They interfere in your work by displaying full screen ads. I never saw this in windows phones. The internal storage increases day by day and the cache and google play services take a huge amount of ever-growing space. No wonder these devices slow down after a few months.

    PS. Its a Moto e3 power with stock android. Previously my Mom owned a Lumia 535. had to give it up due to touch issues.
    03-22-2017 11:06 PM
  13. nate0's Avatar
    Me too. Bought android for my Mom and setting up that device was so much pain. settings in windows 10 mobile are so simple to find and understand. Above all there is no permanent way to disable an app to run in background unlike windows phones.
    The way ads are displayed in free version of apps is horrifying. They interfere in your work by displaying full screen ads. I never saw this in windows phones. The internal storage increases day by day and the cache and google play services take a huge amount of ever-growing space. No wonder these devices slow down after a few months.
    PS. Its a Moto e3 power with stock android. Previously my Mom owned a Lumia 535. had to give it up due to touch issues.
    I do not think there is a new Android phone out there let's say in the past 2 years, that came with 1gb of RAM and would be able to run MM or N as smoothly as lets say the lower end x50 lineup. Honestly it is hard when comparing platforms, because each is unique, each offer a plethora of things. Kinda like comparing apples to oranges. However even with the newest iteration of W10M the devices on the low end that came preinstalled with W10M do not perform all that bad. Like you said they can be tweaked to do better to. To me that says more than words on how much is wasted in overhead in some Android devices. I am not OS dev per-say to know and understand precisely what's going on, and W10M does not run perfect on every device... but to see so much wasted like that or device makers trying to appeal only to what people want to see is painful to watch. 6GB of RAM just seems unreal to have to need it running in my hand, on a mobile OS...but that is why it is out there, so we can choose.
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    03-22-2017 11:18 PM
  14. Sathees kumar's Avatar
    I'm having Lumia 730. I still love on WP and won't dump my WP for any other platforms' even it faces app gaps. I still hope on MS will do best in the future. UWP plays vital role in Windows platform now. After UWP many good apps comes to the store. The main problem for the app gap is less WP market share compared to android and iOS. Developers are not creating their new apps to this platform because it is has less user base. When it comes to android and iOS they have large base and developers bring new feature to their apps and creating new one. Even we have that app in our platform the update roles out for them only not for us. When it comes to user,they are buy WP because it doesn't have essential apps and app gaps. It's a war between user and developers, so MS need to take necessary action for this issue. Let us hope WP will succeed in future πŸ™‚.
    nate0 likes this.
    03-22-2017 11:21 PM
  15. darrell reimer's Avatar
    I am a long time WP user, have used many lumias.
    But due to 'app gap' and some other issues, i changed ships.
    As of now, i have an Iphone 6 from work, a One plus 3 as personal daily driver AND a 640 XL which i use occasionally when i get all nostalgic about WP

    To tell you guys the truth
    # Iphone is good when it comes to stability, apps, restoring from backups etc - but i always feel it is an overpriced phone with less user controls. It feels like a toy :P
    # One plus 3- very good camera, real fast charging but what puts me off is occasional heating up issues, battery drains real fast, hangs/freezes and occasional unexplained reboots. Is short, i cannot count on this device. Battery may drain unexpectedly, etc..
    # Lumia 640XL - love the UI, the plastic feel :P ( i hate metallic feel of the phones), very good camera, OS fluidity.. Occasional lags, app crashes are common but not show stoppers. I feel its real value for money **If you don't have issues with App gap**

    To Sum up, i love WP, have always loved it. BUT MS screwed it up :(
    App gap can get frustrating sometimes.
    I am not a big fan of apps. I mostly use twitter, mails, whatsapp, maps etc. All these seem to work well. BUT some apps like uber, banking apps ( Indian banks) and MS office seems to suck real bad !!!

    ** If MS "could" close the app gap for critical apps, spend some bucks on marketing, i believe WP can bring IOS and Android to their knees**

    Is it just me or you folks too get the same feeling or dumping IOS/android and moving back to "home" ;)
    What do you guys think? Please share views and opinions..
    I left iOS when I dumped my iPhone 4 and bought an ATIV S; best move I ever made! Since then, I've moved up to the ATIV SE, Lumia 830, 650, and 950 XL. Great phones! Great OS. Don't miss 'the apps'; just pin mobile web sites to my start screen. Tried to leave WP for Android; lasted 2 days, and was back home. Have a work issued iPad; looks the same as my old iPhone 4 did five years ago. Windows 10 across all platforms is the best!
    Player Piano and ak_r7 like this.
    03-23-2017 12:24 AM
  16. Jazmac's Avatar
    I never left Windows Phone, it left me. But I've come to terms with the loss after going through all 5 stages. denial, anger, bargaining, depression and finally acceptance. I will stand behind Satya with whatever happens next because he doesn't come across as unrealistic I'll always keep my 1520 close mainly because its so dang smooth. But there is no longer an urgency to buy another Windows Phone. And I am NOT a believer in this mystical Surface Phone and frankly I wish bloggers would stand down on those stories.
    Now, what I want is an OS on Windows Phone that will allow devs to develop what they develop on Android based devices. Including, launchers, dialers, themes and the like. They already know how to build them. It is what they build. Let them build these for Windows Phone. If you don't want these kinds of options, don't download them. I would rather keep those apps through the store and not have them from unknown sources. That would invite too much mischief. Windows Mobile used to be this kind of flexible and I know that was a different time but it is where development is and I can't see that changing in the near term. But this platform needs to evolve. It should also allow users to choose between tiles and buttons but overall the OS MUST remain fluid, smooth and all about Microsoft.
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    03-23-2017 12:45 AM
  17. Eugene Harin's Avatar
    I'm 3+ years with Lumia 820 and it's still going strong.
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    03-23-2017 01:02 AM
  18. muvig's Avatar
    i never left windows phone but I GREATLY MISS HERE MAPS, windows maps application doesn't work well, the compass is not accurate, you can't just get into drive mode without first putting a destination.
    MS should have just carried apps that were on WP8.1 to W10P.
    03-23-2017 01:59 AM
  19. finbaar's Avatar
    My Windows Phone history is Lumia 710 to Ativ S, to Lumia 830 to Lumia 930. I had the 930 on early builds of W10M but (looking back at my spreadsheet of phones) I got rid of it in Jul 15. I would like to have one as a second device but there needs to be some compelling hardware available in the UK, I did play with the 950 & XL but they were not for me. Maybe if the Alcatel is released over here I could be tempted. But really I can't see me returning until Microsoft reboot there mobile line up via the surface phone. And even then I will wait for an OEM version as MS will be charging a large amount for it. Luckily though Android has my mobile love so I can watch developments from the side until something happens.
    03-23-2017 02:12 AM
  20. kenzibit's Avatar
    I've never left and will never leave till the ship sinks.
    03-23-2017 02:39 AM
  21. JavierEscalonJr's Avatar
    I've never left and will never leave till the ship sinks.
    I'm with you even after it sinks ill buy used o es first, then after i'll decide. Stuck with windows since the treo 700wx I actually liked windows mobile 5 and 6.
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    03-23-2017 02:54 AM
  22. Sayem Hossain1's Avatar
    I love the microsoft lumia 650.
    This handset should be available
    In asia.many peaple want itπŸ’—πŸ’“πŸ’—
    03-23-2017 03:47 AM
  23. jarala60's Avatar
    Advertising, free giveaways, heavy carrier pushes (and trained staff who promote it, not make fun of it), and corporate usage - all would help get the platform readopted.
    this
    03-23-2017 04:13 AM
  24. Hoangboy's Avatar
    i have 3 mobile phones: an iphone 6, a Lumia 950, a Galaxy S6

    Yes, I agree all have pros and cons, but the cons on the Lumia is so big that even i like the interface of windows 10 mobile so much, the Lumia still be treated as second class citizen.

    1st the iphone :
    -Software: very stable, has enough feature, set it up once and it stays out of the way, very effective phone.
    -Hardware : solid build, camera is good. The screen was once the market leader, but now feel nothing special when compare to 2k Amoled on the S6 and Lumia 950. All buttons are in the right place, required the right force to press. Fingerprint is easily fail if your finger is wet.
    -Software + hardware: extremely well fine tune, nothing else on earth you can find a phone running so effectively, power management is extremely well, leave it for a day and maybe 5% battery loss.

    2nd the Galaxy S6:
    -Software: on 6.0 it's very stable, has more than enough feature, some is not necessary, sometimes it stands in the way of us.
    -Hardware: equal or better build than the iphone, camera is good. The screen is perfect. All buttons are in the right place, required the right force to press. Better fingerprint than on the iphone
    -Software + hardware: well fine tune compare to android standard, howerver it's an Android and all the bull**** of Android stay there. Phone is slow, laggy when some apps are installed in the background, the annoying "Draw over others app" keeps show up. Internal storage ate up by some unknown process, app cache easily reach 1GB after few weeks. power management is goods, a little worse than the iphone.

    3rd the Lumia 950:
    -Software: i dont know how to say, it's both stable and unstable, Whatsapp never crashes, but the first party apps like Onedrive can easily crash, how the **** is this? Microsoft own apps crashes. The App GAP is true, but it's not the worst, even worse is the stability of apps, the Android and IOS version, 1st party or 3rd party, almost always at the same times more stable and has more feature than the windows version. AND THE CAMERA ALWAYS TAKE 5S TO PROCESS THE PICTURES, **** YOU MICROSOFT
    -Hardware : screen is near perfect, build is fine, but stupidity thick. I prefer the plastic grip, but the design is unacceptable.
    -Software + hardware: very very uneffective tuned, leave it overnight and easily gone 15% battery. This phone has the bigger battery among the 3, and it is the first phone to die for battery, it has more RAM than the iphone, and app crashes more often then the iphone

    Conclusion : **** YOU MICROSOFT, *******
    03-23-2017 04:13 AM
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    03-23-2017 05:05 AM
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