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  1. Sheamartin's Avatar
    I love my Icon. But every time I want an app, it's not there. I'd love wifi cameras in home/office but no W10 apps yet. So I am still holding out hope that WP will get some traction or companies will at least have web based options.
    I've also jumped into the entire world (xbox, MS Band) so it's a bummer to have to change to another ecosystem. Holding out some slim hope that there will be a Surface Phone and then that Verizon will actually offer it.
    04-11-2017 11:53 PM
  2. Richard Toft's Avatar
    Seems like a lot of news got dumped this week on the W10 Mobile front. Most of it ambiguous, some of it a let down.

    How is everyone feeling about this? We've got the Galaxy S8 Microsoft Edition, an announcment that most Windows Phones have been axed from future updates (normally this is routine news but with it's 2-year update cycle that is a lot of now axed models), and even Windows Central seems to be a bit on edge with the UWP article (which was extremely well written IMO).

    Do you think this is a sign of things to come? Is MS just wiping the slate clean before they take their next mobile step? What the heck has this week made you feel in regards to W10 Mobile and how MS is handling it?
    04-12-2017 07:35 AM
  3. toshdellapenna's Avatar
    I'm not worried about it. I've been with Windows Mobile since it was called Pocket Pc 2002 and have rolled through the punches since. So no worries here! Windows on arm is on the way so all is well here. For the die hard that will only use win 10 mobile I'm sure a rom will eventually find its way to xda. For me I'm planning on following the evolution as I always have and will move to a "cellular pc" for my next device.
    04-12-2017 07:36 AM
  4. mstabes's Avatar
    If you don't use apps. WP is the OS of choice.
    04-12-2017 07:38 AM
  5. Richard Toft's Avatar
    I cant see how Microsoft can really walk away from Mobile, Mobile is supposed to be the future so why bother with all the work on windows 10? Windows Mobile is dead(ish) but will all the tech leads saying the future is mobile devices then maybe the future of Windows on Phones (Sorry mobile devices) is Windows 10 cloud.
    04-12-2017 07:39 AM
  6. AlexxX0811's Avatar
    Sometime it make me depress that in future we'll never get Windows mobile updates or any new features or OS support from Microsoft. Because seriously, having Microsoft Lumia Phone and using it is a very different experience and it gives quality experience to all users that's why all of us (windows phone lovers 📱 ) love Lumia series and looking forward for surface phones and still want to buy if Microsoft will ever launch it. Yes, I agree that Microsoft have had some wrong decisions for its Mobile division but I still enjoy using Windows Phone. I seriously love my phone and I'll never quit using it even if is outdated or company will restrict the support.
    04-12-2017 07:48 AM
  7. Teorias's Avatar
    /me slaps teorias with a large trout.

    Yes it makes me go back my irc days when everything was simple
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    04-12-2017 07:52 AM
  8. Sedp23's Avatar
    Seems like a lot of news got dumped this week on the W10 Mobile front. Most of it ambiguous, some of it a let down.

    How is everyone feeling about this? We've got the Galaxy S8 Microsoft Edition, an announcment that most Windows Phones have been axed from future updates (normally this is routine news but with it's 2-year update cycle that is a lot of now axed models), and even Windows Central seems to be a bit on edge with the UWP article (which was extremely well written IMO).

    Do you think this is a sign of things to come? Is MS just wiping the slate clean before they take their next mobile step? What the heck has this week made you feel in regards to W10 Mobile and how MS is handling it?
    Seems to be mostly gloom and doom. I still like the OS, my big drawback is the lack of support on our facebook apps which will probably be the reason i switch to android. No updates in at least 5 months while everyone else is getting the latest updates and new features while we still can't go live or video call on messenger.

    Even if i did switch I would keep my Idol and keep a eye on the development and see what they end up doing with mobile. Would love to see apps and developer support on mobile..but we will see what happens but as of right now things aren't looking good...

    I will say seeing them mention Windows 10 on arm for phones in yesterdays update was a slight glimmer of hope.

    Hope they talk more on mobile SOON
    04-12-2017 07:54 AM
  9. lephilou's Avatar
    I think MS should have never stopped selling phones, people who are on Android and IPhone are just unaware people,
    Windows phone are the best compromise money can get with the most solid and secure software and hardware,

    Even just a Lumia 650 with little improvements at a reasonnable price every year would have been a great sign for the community...

    When they will start selling 800$ phones they will have new problems,

    3 ecosystems is the least we should have, maybe advertising on security, reliability and give more opportunity to try their system would have make Windows Mobile the success it deserved...
    OldMillXxX and Joe920 like this.
    04-12-2017 07:55 AM
  10. davebwi's Avatar
    I updated my Lumia 950 with the latest .183 software, it works great and very fast.
    I even updated my older Lumia 830.. It also works awesome... dont understand why its not on the list for future updates?
    04-12-2017 07:57 AM
  11. anon(9023697)'s Avatar
    I love my W10 mobile, and I wish MSFT actually showed some love for the platform so that developers could see that they were putting money/resources into it, then there might actually be a chance for it to survive (And I hope it does)... But to be honest I think the truth is going to hurt... I really can't see by the way MSFT have let everything crumble down around them that they could ever get mobile back to where it needs to be. I really can't see any love for mobile by the end of this year... and that is a SAD SAD thing! :-(
    04-12-2017 07:59 AM
  12. Steven Jepson's Avatar
    I'll be hanging onto my 950XL until you pry it out of my cold, dead hands...

    Just don't care for Android and I LOATHE iOS. WM works for me.

    And I seriously think that the OS will become more of a 'pocket productivity' device with telephony, designed more for business users.
    04-12-2017 08:01 AM
  13. gavhamer's Avatar
    I've tried Android, had all the apps, been there and done that for 5 months and came back to Lumia. Fundamentally, I don't enjoy using Android or iOS, but I do enjoy Windows Phone/Mobile. I think it's mostly the Live Tiles. Anyway, I have an Android phone that I can use for specific apps/devices, but most days I only carry my 950XL.

    I'll be here until either WhatsApp or Garmin Connect stop working. If they keep going I'll be happy to turn the lights out at the end.

    I am thinking of getting another Lumia 950XL as backup:
    BT Shop
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    04-12-2017 08:08 AM
  14. Keerthidharan Shanmughan's Avatar
    I wish Nokia to make Lumias again with customized android to exactly look like windows 8.1. Possibly a successor to L1520.we missed that big text style and so unique look. Who wants continuum and so called gimmicks? I'm still using my Lumia 1520 with 8.1 because of its stylish look. MSFT is not giving any hope to mobile users, if they want to end support to Lumias because of hardware limitations..OK go ahead but why can't they continue support for 8.1? I changed to windows 10 before one month and returned to 8.1 again.
    04-12-2017 08:08 AM
  15. KingyOwl's Avatar
    I'm starting to accept that Microsoft will probably not continue with Windows Mobile and I am unlikely to find a Windows based replacement for me Lumia 950XL.

    I plan to keep it around for as long as the hardware and battery lasts; at which time hopefully Microsoft has some other form of "mobile" solution or I'll move to Android and have my data advertised around the web!
    rhapdog and Gabriel Celio like this.
    04-12-2017 08:09 AM
  16. E4est's Avatar
    For the first time since 2012 I'm considering to get an Android device like the Blackberry Priv. I know, shame on me, but if Build 2017 is a disappointment for Mobile again, I feel forced to do so.
    It's your turn Microsoft.
    cmon-microsoft.png
    04-12-2017 08:10 AM
  17. epakrat75's Avatar
    At least to me Windows Phone has a reputation for attracting nonconformist fans who likely aren't going anywhere soon. You've also got the hardcore fans. Since these do not make up the entire fanbase, you also have the lemmings. These lemmings often mirror the emotional states of others and since they're typically larger in number, they can become the face of Windows Phone disenchantment to the public. Articles get written because doom, gloom and click bait headlines get views. The sky is falling, Windows is fated to perish the way that Blackberry did. Whatever.

    Things were not great before Win 10 but this is going to be Windows Phone's best year. As S developer myself I look at UWP and what represents. I read about Redstone 3 and love the idea of potentially running x86 architecture code on my phone sometime this year. I'm optimistic.
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    04-12-2017 08:14 AM
  18. sph0308's Avatar
    Despite much munching and grunching from Windows Central these days about Windows Phones. Every day I enjoy using my 950 XL running 15063.138. I received my phone the day before Thanksgiving 2015 so was one of the early adopters of the 950 XL and W10M. Today I find the OS fast and smooth. Where else today can I get all of the following in a hardware / software package :

    Security
    Fast Charging
    Wireless Charging
    Dual Sim
    Replaceable battery
    Custom Backs (I have 5 Mozo backs)
    SD card for virtually unlimited storage
    Great camera
    Ability to pin web pages to my home page
    Cortana to track flights and packages
    Automatic back up to One Drive
    Ability to cast my screen

    The only hardware / software combination that comes close is Galaxy/Android but I don't like the bloatware and security issues around Android.

    I think MSFT has a vision for phone/mobile and I think once they come out with a pocket Surface they will be in an excellent position to deliver a great user experience out of the box. Just look at their track record recently with HoloLens and Surface. Why all of a sudden do people think that Panos can't redefine phones ?

    I am very happy with the creators update and my 950 XL. I will buy the new Panos phone when it is launched. For those people who are still hanging on to older Windows Phones, go out and spend $300 on a great 950 XL. I paid twice that at launch and went through the growing pains with W10M but for half the price and 18 months of constant updates, there is no reason not to buy one.

    I'm proud to be one of the 1% W10M users.
    04-12-2017 08:14 AM
  19. rhapdog's Avatar
    Part of me wants to write a really long response. The other part of me wants to just write this and leave it at that. Alright,
    I can tell which part of you won out. ;)

    As for me, I'm sticking with Windows 10 on my phone for as long as I can have Windows 10 on a phone. Heck, if I can get Full Windows 10 on ARM on a 7" tablet with SIM support that I can make cellular calls with, I'd be thrilled with that and go with it. I never hold my phone up to my ear to take a phone call anyway. It's always a Bluetooth headset. Always. Okay, not always. Speakerphone if I'm doing a family call so my girls can chat with the grandparents.

    My wife and I bought Lumia 640s over 2 years ago for $30 each, upgrading from a Lumia 635 which upgraded our 520s. Worst case scenario will be I'll carry around a 7" or 8" Windows 10 Tablet that has a Data SIM and a "dumb" flip phone for phone calls. I'll never go Android or iOS. I know, "never say never" and all that. I just did. I meant it. I meant it like I say, "I'll never kiss a hippopotamus on the mouth." Believe it.

    Come to think of it, flip phones were so much easier for phone calls. I do a very small amount of anything on my phone. I make phone calls, have an occasional text, and in a pinch when I don't have my laptop with me, I use it to check product reviews before deciding to purchase something in a brick-and-mortar store. My new 8" tablet will be here later this week, and it's the same dimensions as the Samsung Tab A 7" tablet (way to go with the large bezels, Samsung.) I can actually hold it with one hand comfortably. Don't expect to swipe one handed, but it's what I'll carry for those situations so I don't need to use my phone. I also use my phone to check gas prices before getting gas. GasBuddy web site works fine for me, even since they discontinued the app, I can still use it.

    The only other thing I use my phone for is to use it for my Bible in church. I think it's too small for that, but my 8" tablet will be here before next Sunday, and I'll no longer use my phone for that either. I'll just leave it in my vehicle.
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    04-12-2017 08:17 AM
  20. pitoka's Avatar
    I'm still here, because of the Zeiss camera, the AAC stereo microphones and the replaceable battery. If Android or Apple would offer all of that I'd probably switch. And everyday I hope MS will regain its senses and finally realize that a viable mobile platform is crucial to its very existence.
    04-12-2017 08:17 AM
  21. Skynet3D's Avatar
    I really don't understand.
    With 8.1 MS was doing great on mobile side and the way they took was the right one.
    I really don't understand what happened with W10M.
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    04-12-2017 08:18 AM
  22. johnnypdx's Avatar
    Seems like a lot of news got dumped this week on the W10 Mobile front. Most of it ambiguous, some of it a let down.

    How is everyone feeling about this? We've got the Galaxy S8 Microsoft Edition, an announcment that most Windows Phones have been axed from future updates (normally this is routine news but with it's 2-year update cycle that is a lot of now axed models), and even Windows Central seems to be a bit on edge with the UWP article (which was extremely well written IMO).

    Do you think this is a sign of things to come? Is MS just wiping the slate clean before they take their next mobile step? What the heck has this week made you feel in regards to W10 Mobile and how MS is handling it?
    I, for one, am going down with the ship. Say what you will about Windows phones, there's one argument that still holds true, Microsoft MUST have a mobile telephony SOMETHING in the portfolio, period. "Surface Phone", "Windows 10 on ARM"... Call it what you will. Now is the time for them to kick it up a notch. My 950XL still had enough life in it to get me through the next year or two. I can be patient.

    Oh Captain, my Captain! *stands on desk*

    What ticks me off is what happened to the Band. Mine finally kicked the bucket this week and I LOVED that thing. I'm going to have to choose to buy another or try going to FitBit (and I HATE FitBit!). *sigh*
    04-12-2017 08:18 AM
  23. Rowdy Bedsaul's Avatar
    I still feel good.
    04-12-2017 08:19 AM
  24. Rashik Maharjan's Avatar
    About killing windows phones.. I really felt bad... But if its really gonna be that way then first make windows phone better.. "Best"
    We want to get blown up by new features and best performance. Hope microsoft wont give up on windows phones.
    04-12-2017 08:21 AM
  25. YKinase's Avatar
    I'm hanging with Windows Phone as long as I can. The OS is solid, the performance is an order of magnitude better than the early 10000 builds and plugging in my work credentials gives me a dual functionality phone where everything just works together. I don't like hitting the browser to get to Nest or other missing apps, but I can and that works for me. I'll weather this as long as W10 on a phone-like device is around.
    04-12-2017 08:22 AM
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