1. David Jewers's Avatar
    I'm pretty adept with windows phone; I've hade a 635 that I de-branded, a T-Mobile 640 (plus 5 more AT&T 640's that I unlocked and flashed to TMO when they were $29 at Best Buy),a 435, a 1520, 2 Lumia Icons, and currently using a Samsung ATIV SE running Windows 10 Mobile 10.0.14393.953 (thats 12 Windows phones if u were counting).... But I have no idea what the "Creators Update" is. Is it just a fancy name for Win10 update for some well needed hype, or am I really out of the loop?
    04-07-2017 06:54 AM
  2. libra89's Avatar
    The Creators Update is the next massive update for Windows 10 devices, including Mobile too. The updates you have received have all been patching for the most part.

    Check out this article and also video on the page to see what it will bring to Windows 10 Mobile: Hands on with the Windows 10 Mobile Creators Update (video) | Windows Central
  3. Nathan-NL's Avatar
    Some call it the Reader's Update for Mobile.

    Edit: But the fact is that the Creators Update does not bring many new features to Windows 10 Mobile. It's mostly a refined experience.
    Last edited by Nathan-NL; 04-15-2017 at 03:41 PM.
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    04-07-2017 07:09 AM
  4. David Jewers's Avatar
    Always one wise*ss
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    04-07-2017 08:10 AM
  5. libra89's Avatar
    The Creators Update is the next massive update for Windows 10 devices, including Mobile too. The updates you have received have all been patching for the most part.

    Check out this article and also video on the page to see what it will bring to Windows 10 Mobile: Hands on with the Windows 10 Mobile Creators Update (video) | Windows Central
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    04-07-2017 09:07 AM
  6. EspHack's Avatar
    what will it do for mobile? well, I hear it will make them seem faster
    04-08-2017 03:48 PM
  7. Chemy JMHT's Avatar
    what will it do for mobile? well, I hear it will make them seem faster
    That's one of the goals, but right now are some minor updates, as libra89 said when this will be released it will have a lot of updates and it will be a step to make that big jump to the unifying OS for Desktop and Mobile devices.
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    04-08-2017 06:57 PM
  8. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    It's the next major update for Windows 10, including the Mobile and Xbox platforms, although it is a more minor update than the previous Anniversary Update. It brings Windows 10 one step closer to being a completely unified operating system. Most of the improvements you'll see on Mobile are underlying performance enhancements, especially on older phones.
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    04-08-2017 08:22 PM
  9. EspHack's Avatar
    It's the next major update for Windows 10, including the Mobile and Xbox platforms, although it is a more minor update than the previous Anniversary Update. It brings Windows 10 one step closer to being a completely unified operating system. Most of the improvements you'll see on Mobile are underlying performance enhancements, especially on older phones.
    how come.. they just dropped support for those, lol microsoft truly loves to play games, I guess...
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    04-08-2017 10:10 PM
  10. jimh12345's Avatar
    how come.. they just dropped support for those, lol microsoft truly loves to play games, I guess...
    I just found out that my phone won't get the update. In fact, only a few models will. And the vaporous Surface Phone is where it's always been - at an infinite distance in the future. So that's it for me, I'm now shopping for an Android "Microsoft Edition" phone.

    What this update will "do for Windows Mobile" is reduce MS's market share from .3% to .03%, quite an achievement. Eventually they'll get down to exactly 1 customer with an active phone - and maybe Nadella will take him to lunch, and show him concept art for a Surface Phone to be released when Mars is colonized.
    Last edited by jimh12345; 04-09-2017 at 11:27 AM.
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    04-09-2017 10:55 AM
  11. mtf1380's Avatar
    I think MS in moving you forward to harmonize your MS account with all your devices, via Cloud, and make the flow of your interests and data able follow you around like a devoted puppy:)
    04-09-2017 12:00 PM
  12. dov1978's Avatar
    You get a new 'share' icon
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    04-09-2017 12:02 PM
  13. EspHack's Avatar
    I think MS in moving you forward to harmonize your MS account with all your devices, via Cloud, and make the flow of your interests and data able follow you around like a devoted puppy:)
    it used to be like that on 8.1
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    04-10-2017 12:16 AM
  14. milkyway's Avatar
    Some call it the Reader's Update for Mobile.
    It's the "New Share Icon Update"
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    04-10-2017 01:47 AM
  15. mtf1380's Avatar
    it used to be like that on 8.1
    @EspHach, is I agree, OneNote and some apps actually did a great job at being available across devices, I think that was the 101 version. Now it looks that W10 is trying to improve on that with all, or most, programs, apps and devices, version 201, or 301.

    At least that is the impression I'm getting.
    04-10-2017 06:51 AM
  16. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    how come.. they just dropped support for those, lol microsoft truly loves to play games, I guess...
    I agree, it's silly. But I also think it's silly for people to continuously complain about this. All the phones that are supposedly being dropped (it's still not 100%) are over two years old. That's still a longer life span than most Android devices and all of those devices got any Windows 10 update almost immediately as it was available. Even the most expensive flagships usually have to wait months after the initial release date before they get a major update.

    Yes, I think it's ironic that the update that dramatically improves performance on older devices is the update that drops support for those same older devices. I also think you got what you paid for when you bought that phone. Almost any Android phone wouldn't have gotten the same treatment. Yes, I think any one of those devices are perfectly capable of running the Creator Update and running it well. But that doesn't mean Microsoft is obligated to update those devices. If support for them really has been dropped, I'll swallow my disappointment because it's what happens to any phone over time.
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    04-11-2017 09:42 PM
  17. EspHack's Avatar
    I agree, it's silly. But I also think it's silly for people to continuously complain about this. All the phones that are supposedly being dropped (it's still not 100%) are over two years old. That's still a longer life span than most Android devices and all of those devices got any Windows 10 update almost immediately as it was available. Even the most expensive flagships usually have to wait months after the initial release date before they get a major update.

    Yes, I think it's ironic that the update that dramatically improves performance on older devices is the update that drops support for those same older devices. I also think you got what you paid for when you bought that phone. Almost any Android phone wouldn't have gotten the same treatment. Yes, I think any one of those devices are perfectly capable of running the Creator Update and running it well. But that doesn't mean Microsoft is obligated to update those devices. If support for them really has been dropped, I'll swallow my disappointment because it's what happens to any phone over time.
    but why, have you wondered why? why are mobiles treated that way, while a decade old desk pc is getting w10 down its throat forcefully

    its like a lot of things went wrong with mobile, probably due to the way they opened the doors, taking a broader market than desks-laptops ever did, sadly resulted in "data plans" and charging by "data consumption" as if it were an expendable resource, people buying phones from communications companies, like if we were supposed to buy cars from gas stations, having them tied to each station's proprietary mixture of gas

    anyway all this nonsense is just sad at this point, its all thanks to user's ignorance, and letting arbitrary business-friendly decisions become the norm
    04-11-2017 10:26 PM
  18. Drael646464's Avatar
    Gradually replace it, given we now have "phone", "hotspot" and SMS/MMS settings on desktops :P

    But I do hear there are some UI changes for win 10 mobile. And that makes sense that they'd focus there, because that will need refining before they fully unify the platform and drop windows 10 mobile.

    FYI, all the big updates have names. Like "Anniversary". It's called "Creators" because that is part of the new vision for MS, under Nadella. Focusing on Windows strengths - gaming, creativity and enterprise. The main angle of the update on desktop regarding creativity is 3D, viewing 3D objects, creating them, HoloLens etc. But I believe it also has monitor settings for compatible monitors like the Studio. But it also includes productivity features and gaming features on desktop.

    On the phone, the features changes are mainly UI, and productivity.
    04-13-2017 12:45 AM
  19. Drael646464's Avatar
    how come.. they just dropped support for those, lol microsoft truly loves to play games, I guess...
    If they don't have a chance of running full Windows 10 on ARM, they are going to be out at some point anyway. 2GB ram would be the minimum I suspect, and I doubt that will be ideal for win32 apps.
    04-13-2017 12:50 AM
  20. jimh12345's Avatar
    I don't get all the posts I see, saying that Microsoft "isn't obligated" to update existing phones, "never promised" to do so, and that every technology product is obsolete in 2 years anyway. No, they're not obligated, they don't have to bother making the update run on older phones. They'd only do this if - oh, I don't know - maybe they wanted to retain customers like me, and not further reduce their pathetic market share, while pushing the Surface Phone further into the future. But, I guess they've figured out how to succeed without us. I don't care any more, I'm buying an Android. Sayanara.
    04-13-2017 04:04 PM
  21. mtf1380's Avatar
    I look at it the same way I do when the automotive manufactures were faced with unleaded fuel; they didn't spent all their time trying to retrofit cars with the older engines, they just moved on, taking on the new challenge. The consumer took a bigger hit back then, and now you have 10% ethanol (and efforts are being made to increase that percentage); I haven't had an engine that runs right now that its impossible to find stations that doesn't have ethanol included.

    Trying to retrofit older phones for a technology they will never be fully able to power, may just be slowing MS down and their ability to fully focus on future mobile devices.
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    04-13-2017 04:52 PM
  22. jimh12345's Avatar
    I don't know how anything could be "slowing them down" any further at this point, when they're completely dead in the water. But, sorry to be such a drag on their resources by sticking with Windows Phone since day 1, and buying 3 different phones. I deserve to be under the bus.
    04-13-2017 05:29 PM
  23. mtf1380's Avatar
    That is not what I said, or implied... And we are all on/under said bus.
    04-13-2017 08:00 PM
  24. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I look at it the same way I do when the automotive manufactures were faced with unleaded fuel; they didn't spent all their time trying to retrofit cars with the older engines, they just moved on, taking on the new challenge. The consumer took a bigger hit back then, and now you have 10% ethanol (and efforts are being made to increase that percentage); I haven't had an engine that runs right now that its impossible to find stations that doesn't have ethanol included.

    Trying to retrofit older phones for a technology they will never be fully able to power, may just be slowing MS down and their ability to fully focus on future mobile devices.
    To make pre-1974 engines run on unleaded didn't require any retrofit. If you wanted a grenade in a few thousand miles. Hardened valve seats are a necessary evil to offset the loss of lead's lubrication properties.

    Unless someone figures out a way to cheaply swap out the silicon on older handsets, you outta gas. You can't reasonably expect a phone to be able to receive updates 3 years after purchase. I'm sure this Idol will be dropped in a couple of years from a future update, but I bought it for what it does today. I don't know why that's such a difficult concept to grasp for some people.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
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    04-13-2017 09:21 PM
  25. vEEP pEEP's Avatar
    Nothing for the 830, 930 and 1520....it's the alt-update
    04-13-2017 10:43 PM

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