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  1. greedo_greedy's Avatar
    Creating this thread for those who own phones that will not officially receive the Creator's Update on April 25.

    I have two Lumias, a 1520 and a 735 both of which unfortunately will not get the update.

    While I'm sad about this news, I have stated in another thread that I will just "roll with it"

    Also, I am not making this thread to defend Microsoft's decision but to help fellow Windows 10 Mobile fans. It will be highly appreciated if no one posts a negative comment. (There are plenty other threads where you can do that)

    So given what we know now, the best way unsupported phones can get the Creator's Update safely is to through the RELEASE PREVIEW RING

    At this time, it isn't available yet but you can bet my phone is ready for it when it gets bumped up to that ring.
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    04-14-2017 01:06 PM
  2. mtf1380's Avatar
    Caution: Adult in the room = @greedo_greedy
    04-14-2017 04:58 PM
  3. MrsDM's Avatar
    When will my phone get the Windows 10 creator update? I already signed up as a Windows Insider and downloaded the app...which tells me just go to settings. Do I even need that app? But then when I got settings there is no option to set the ring cycle. It used to show slow,fast etc when I was enrolled in Insider before.
    Someone please help!!! I've followed every instruction&hint to be able to get the update&my phone IS on the list of mobile phones that can get the update. I REALLY want it asap because it's about time MS updated Windows security.
    Help needed badly. I'm basically computer illeterate lol so please speak in easy to understand language
    04-15-2017 05:53 PM
  4. greedo_greedy's Avatar
    What Lumia model are you using?
    04-16-2017 11:02 AM
  5. greedo_greedy's Avatar
    Windows Central reports that the Creators Update is now in the RELEASE PREVIEW ring.
    Windows 10 Mobile Creators Update now rolling out to the Release Preview ring | Windows Central

    Just what I was waiting for finally, unsupported phones may get the Creators Update and will continue to get cumulative updates through the Release Preview Ring.

    Will download on my Lumia 735 and Lumia 1520 when I get home later today
    04-25-2017 01:10 PM
  6. Captain_Eric's Avatar
    I'm on a Lumia 1520 too. Keep us posted...
    Windows Central reports that the Creators Update is now in the RELEASE PREVIEW ring.
    Windows 10 Mobile Creators Update now rolling out to the Release Preview ring | Windows Central

    Just what I was waiting for finally, unsupported phones may get the Creators Update and will continue to get cumulative updates through the Release Preview Ring.

    Will download on my Lumia 735 and Lumia 1520 when I get home later today
    04-25-2017 02:05 PM
  7. davidhk129's Avatar
    Windows Central reports that the Creators Update is now in the RELEASE PREVIEW ring.
    Windows 10 Mobile Creators Update now rolling out to the Release Preview ring | Windows Central

    Just what I was waiting for finally, unsupported phones may get the Creators Update and will continue to get cumulative updates through the Release Preview Ring.

    Will download on my Lumia 735 and Lumia 1520 when I get home later today
    Not so fast.
    Here is an article saying that it is not true.
    From Neowin posted an hour ago :
    https://www.neowin.net/news/the-wind...e-preview-ring

    unupported-devices.jpg

    So, which one do we believe ?
    04-25-2017 02:22 PM
  8. BrunoMG's Avatar
    Well....believe not in Microsoft....that's for sure.
    04-25-2017 02:53 PM
  9. Grant Taylor3's Avatar
    I have it on my 950 via Release Preview.
    04-25-2017 03:07 PM
  10. camaroz1985's Avatar
    Has anyone been able to go from .138 to .251?
    04-25-2017 03:27 PM
  11. Nathan-NL's Avatar
    Not getting the update on a 550 and 735. They are both on 15063.138.

    Edit: My 550 is now downloading the update since 01.45AM CET. The 735 is still not getting it.
    Last edited by Nathan-NL; 04-25-2017 at 06:53 PM.
    04-25-2017 04:04 PM
  12. camaroz1985's Avatar
    Has anyone been able to go from .138 to .251?
    I was able to get it to work. Left the insider program and when the phone restarted it was available to download. Give that a try to see if it works for those of you on .138 and not seeing .251.
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    04-25-2017 08:01 PM
  13. kashifkiduniya's Avatar
    Is Lumia 540 eligible for creators update?
    04-25-2017 08:17 PM
  14. camaroz1985's Avatar
    No the only 40 series phones that are eligible are the 640 and 640 XL.

    You should still be able to get it by using the release preview ring on insiders build, and you will receive cumulative updates (bug fixes, and security updates), but you will not be able to update beyond the creator's update.
    kashifkiduniya likes this.
    04-26-2017 08:53 AM
  15. davidhk129's Avatar
    No the only 40 series phones that are eligible are the 640 and 640 XL.

    You should still be able to get it by using the release preview ring on insiders build, and you will receive cumulative updates (bug fixes, and security updates), but you will not be able to update beyond the creator's update.
    Please kindly clarify the followings :

    RE : You should still be able to get it by using the release preview ring on insiders build.

    Assuming you were referring to those NOT on supported list.
    If that is what you meant, there is an article that casts doubts on the claim. See Post #7 .
    Proof is what we need.
    Feedback Hub is not exactly a bible.

    RE : but you will not be able to update beyond the creator's update.

    That makes little sense. If a non-supported device can get the Creators Update (which remains to be proven) in release preview ring, there is no reason why it cannot continue to get future updates.
    Please give us a link to the article that says that.
    Thank you.
    Last edited by davidhk129; 04-26-2017 at 09:31 AM.
    04-26-2017 09:04 AM
  16. AndyCalling's Avatar
    Originally posted by camaroz1985
    No the only 40 series phones that are eligible are the 640 and 640 XL.

    You should still be able to get it by using the release preview ring on insiders build, and you will receive cumulative updates (bug fixes, and security updates), but you will not be able to update beyond the creator's update.
    Perhaps. Problem is, it's not available on the release preview ring for everybody. For example, my UK unbranded L930 is on release preview ring but the creators update is not yet available. I'm hoping it will happen, but promises from MS are not exactly rock solid are they, so who knows.
    04-26-2017 11:46 AM
  17. camaroz1985's Avatar
    I got my info from the article on this site.

    Windows 10 Mobile Creators Update build 15063.251 now rolling out to the Release Preview ring | Windows Central

    It states:

    Previously, it was believed that unsupported devices would be left behind, but if you enrol in the Insider program, you'll still get cumulative updates for THIS unsupported release.
    I take that to mean that if you have an unsupported device you can update to this release meaning Creator's Update, but not beyond. I think that is backed up by Microsoft not pushing any of the RS3/Feature 2 builds to unsupported devices even if you keep your device in the fast ring.

    I also read somewhere that if you have an unsupported device on the current production build you should use the fast ring to get a 15063.XX build and then switch to Release Preview to get the .251 build.

    Unfortunately I don't have an unsupported device to try this on myself, but if you do and are trying to get Creator's Update I would give it a shot. We all would like definitive answers about the future for our device or even the OS, but for those of us left it is more a trial and error affair than a straight forward instruction. There will be many ideas proposed here and until someone finds something that works 100% of the time we are all guinea pigs.
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    04-26-2017 11:57 AM
  18. bprashant19's Avatar
    updated a lumia 635 to creators update yesterday (.251).

    changed the registry to look like lumia 950 and enrolled to release preview ring.
    04-26-2017 12:41 PM
  19. AndyCalling's Avatar
    Originally posted by camaroz1985
    I got my info from the article on this site.

    Windows 10 Mobile Creators Update build 15063.251 now rolling out to the Release Preview ring | Windows Central

    It states:

    Previously, it was believed that unsupported devices would be left behind, but if you enrol in the Insider program, you'll still get cumulative updates for THIS unsupported release.
    I take that to mean that if you have an unsupported device you can update to this release meaning Creator's Update, but not beyond. I think that is backed up by Microsoft not pushing any of the RS3/Feature 2 builds to unsupported devices even if you keep your device in the fast ring.

    I also read somewhere that if you have an unsupported device on the current production build you should use the fast ring to get a 15063.XX build and then switch to Release Preview to get the .251 build.

    Unfortunately I don't have an unsupported device to try this on myself, but if you do and are trying to get Creator's Update I would give it a shot. We all would like definitive answers about the future for our device or even the OS, but for those of us left it is more a trial and error affair than a straight forward instruction. There will be many ideas proposed here and until someone finds something that works 100% of the time we are all guinea pigs.
    Just tried the method advised above so it's now tested. And it doesn't work. My L930 is now stuck on the fast ring, because there is no update available on the release preview ring. So, what to do now? How do I get back to a stable build?
    04-26-2017 03:24 PM
  20. camaroz1985's Avatar
    Which build did it update you to? To roll back to a previous build you have to use the WDRT. Sorry it didn't work for you.
    04-26-2017 03:26 PM
  21. AndyCalling's Avatar
    I'm on the current fast ring build, which appears to be 15063.2 which would seem to be older than .251? But not by much? Do you happen to know what bugs were fixed between .2 and .251? They may be pretty much the same thing. It's probably not worth risking a bricking with that flashing utility if it's pretty much the same as the release version. Anyway, MS might yet release the full creators update through release preview and if (against all reason) the fast ring build is actually older than the creators update build I should get it. Is my thinking right?
    04-26-2017 03:43 PM
  22. davidhk129's Avatar
    Until someone posts back and confirms that unsupported Mobile devices do get Creators Update if they are in Release Preview ring, it's nothing but a BIG IF....... at best.

    A copy from Feedback Hub.

    Among all those mumble jumble, it says................

    "However you do so at your own risk as it's unsupported."

    feedbak-hub.....-creators-update-mobile.png
    04-26-2017 03:43 PM
  23. greedo_greedy's Avatar
    Haven't updated my phones yet. I'll currently out of town until next week. If my unsupported devices don't get the Creators Update then. I will have to go Slow Ring
    04-26-2017 07:13 PM
  24. Captain_Eric's Avatar
    I am now downloading 15063.251 on my (unsupported) Lumia 1520.3 using Release Preview.

    This download is coming on top of 15063.138, which I downloaded a couple of weeks ago on Fast Ring, before dropping to Slow Release as instructed.

    So, it's coming along as described by Microsoft.
    Last edited by Captain_Eric; 04-27-2017 at 12:18 AM.
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    04-26-2017 11:42 PM
  25. camaroz1985's Avatar
    I'm on the current fast ring build, which appears to be 15063.2 which would seem to be older than .251? But not by much? Do you happen to know what bugs were fixed between .2 and .251? They may be pretty much the same thing. It's probably not worth risking a bricking with that flashing utility if it's pretty much the same as the release version. Anyway, MS might yet release the full creators update through release preview and if (against all reason) the fast ring build is actually older than the creators update build I should get it. Is my thinking right?
    That is what I heard would happen on an unsupported device. The current fast ring for supported devices is 15207. You should be able to move to release preview or slow ring and eventually you will get .251. Mine didn't do it right away (I have a supported device though). I actually removed my device from the insider program and when it restarted to finish that process the update was available. You could try that, but I definitely wouldn't jump to using the WDRT. There aren't that many differences between .2 and .251, so unfortunately you just have to be patient and you will get it eventually.
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    04-27-2017 08:05 AM
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