1. brian stabinger's Avatar
    My 950 took a dive, and I'm looking to replace it. I was looking at eBay and there seems to be NOS 930's on there, all for a reasonable price (c. $170USD). Is this real? Has anyone bought one of these?

    Thanks!

    Brian
    04-23-2017 07:02 AM
  2. pankaj981's Avatar
    In my opinion, you should pass. The 930 is no longer supported going forward for software updates (Creators Update is the last version available via Insiders) while W10 mobile is currently on a maintenance release for all devices officially updated to the Creators Update. W10 on ARM might be the next big iteration not coming to existing W10 Mobile devices due to hardware limitations. If I were you, I would invest in a decent Android device which suits you and has a decent camera if that matters. Some options around the $200 price are the Moto G4 Plus, Moto G5, Moto G5 Plus and the Honor 8.
    04-23-2017 07:22 AM
  3. EspHack's Avatar
    I wouldnt invest more than 60$ on it
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    04-23-2017 01:34 PM
  4. brian stabinger's Avatar
    Thanks for the advice.

    I'm one of those people who only uses basic smartphone features (phone, SMS, email, camera, web, OneDrive, etc.), hence I'm not too concerned with the App World. I understand some features won't be supported or updated. I fired-up my old WP7.5 HTC Trophy the other day, and for the above features, it actually worked surprisingly well.

    I've always loved the design of the 930, but have never had an excuse to replace an existing device, with one of these. And for $170 to limp along until the Surface Phone (hey, I'm an optimist) comes out???

    On the Android front, I'm not in any way (that I know of!) part of the G00gle ecosystem, and I just personally really dislike the whole Droid UX. Blech.
    04-24-2017 07:25 AM
  5. EspHack's Avatar
    Thanks for the advice.

    I'm one of those people who only uses basic smartphone features (phone, SMS, email, camera, web, OneDrive, etc.), hence I'm not too concerned with the App World. I understand some features won't be supported or updated. I fired-up my old WP7.5 HTC Trophy the other day, and for the above features, it actually worked surprisingly well.

    I've always loved the design of the 930, but have never had an excuse to replace an existing device, with one of these. And for $170 to limp along until the Surface Phone (hey, I'm an optimist) comes out???

    On the Android front, I'm not in any way (that I know of!) part of the G00gle ecosystem, and I just personally really dislike the whole Droid UX. Blech.
    well the iphone is still overpriced af so your options are limited here, icons and attcrippled 1520's can be had for about 100$ or even 80$ in good condition, same for 830 928 at about 50-60$ and I managed to get a 822 at 20$ last year which I still think its insanely good value, essentially a 928 without xenon and blurier screen
    04-24-2017 04:34 PM
  6. envio's Avatar
    Your best bet is get another new or used 950, there's no mileage in getting a 930 (or any Nokia x30 device and at that price, it's not worth it. Unless you're feeling a bit nostalgic and like the phone and its design for what it was back in 2014 and want a piece of Nokia history. I've got a 930 and my Insiders enrolment has come to a halt. I'm not sure what I'm going to do next but my 930 will take a back seat (It's not for sale though). I've got a 950 so I'm safe in the knowledge that my device is supported for the foreseeable.
    04-25-2017 05:32 AM
  7. brian stabinger's Avatar
    (*Sorry! This probably belongs on a different Forum. Can't seem to move it.)

    Again, thanks for all the advice.

    I do like the design of the 930, so there's that. I've actually been using my 1020 today, and I love the size/form-factor, vs the 950. I have big hands, and I can't hit the corners on the 950 without a stretch. It is such a simple pleasure to be able to be able to fully/easily operate the phone with one hand! I forgot how nice that feels.

    The repair joint here wans $299(!) to fix a 950. It's just the glass that's shattered. I'll probably just get the LCD/glass/bezel for $160 and do it (the easy way) myself.

    One last, dumb question. If a guy were to get a (unlocked) 930, I'd still be able to slap Win10 on it? It just will likely never get another update?
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    04-25-2017 11:53 AM
  8. tmoore71's Avatar
    I will say this about the 930, it's a beautiful phone. I have the black/gold version and love it. Be aware, however, that if you get the international version you will not get 4G in the States. I get H+ (3.5G) on AT&T. That said, I really don't need 4G for anything I do. As I said, it's a beautiful phone. The build is just great and it feels good. I also have a 950, and for looks, feel, and build quality it can't compare to the 930. Just my two cents worth.
    04-26-2017 06:25 PM
  9. brian stabinger's Avatar
    I decided to go ahead with it. What the hey, right? Oh, and this is USA, use.

    It delivered new, as promised, though I think it must be packaged for France use. Anyway, after a bunch of updates and reboots, all seemed to be working well.

    Ok, now for my ignorance. I took the SIM out of my 950, and plopped it into the 930. Bing! AT&T network popped up and all seemed well. After a few hours, I noticed a few SMS messages failed. Then I noticed that the network is listed as H, and H+. What is this? Is there a way for this phone to work as true 3G or 4G LTE? Maybe some sort of SIM thing?

    It's a stunningly beautiful phone. And I really, really want it to work-out. Thanks.
    05-05-2017 02:36 PM
  10. libra89's Avatar
    I decided to go ahead with it. What the hey, right? Oh, and this is USA, use.

    It delivered new, as promised, though I think it must be packaged for France use. Anyway, after a bunch of updates and reboots, all seemed to be working well.

    Ok, now for my ignorance. I took the SIM out of my 950, and plopped it into the 930. Bing! AT&T network popped up and all seemed well. After a few hours, I noticed a few SMS messages failed. Then I noticed that the network is listed as H, and H+. What is this? Is there a way for this phone to work as true 3G or 4G LTE? Maybe some sort of SIM thing?

    It's a stunningly beautiful phone. And I really, really want it to work-out. Thanks.
    The 930 doesn't support LTE here in the states. H+ is the best that you can get.
    05-05-2017 08:22 PM
  11. Drael646464's Avatar
    You'd be better with a 650, if your looking to save coin. It's still getting updates, and will get the Cortana api skills update and cshell update when they come (as well as those lovely neon changes).

    Windows on arm isn't being release for smartphones, and Nadella has explicitly said they won't make another phone unless its a paradigm shift.

    In this way, win10 mobile is safe for awhile. But if you use a win 8/8.1 phone, it may work well enough but will experience compatibility issues in most likelihood.

    There is also the alcatel 4s, and moly x1 (currently 199 on amazon).
    05-06-2017 02:43 AM
  12. Drael646464's Avatar
    Ah, I see you got one.

    Frequencies is something to check thoroughly before you get a phone. This is why I am tempted by, but cannot use either the 4s or moly x1
    05-06-2017 02:46 AM
  13. Drael646464's Avatar
    Ah, I see you got one.

    Frequencies is something to check thoroughly before you get a phone. This is why I am tempted by, but cannot use either the 4s or moly x1
    05-06-2017 02:46 AM
  14. brian stabinger's Avatar
    Ah, I see you got one.

    Frequencies is something to check thoroughly before you get a phone. This is why I am tempted by, but cannot use either the 4s or moly x1
    I don't know. I compared the band chart of this, to my 950, and it looked like it should have worked. Oh well. I was going to keep it, but I've just seen my second round of the 'phantom touch' syndrome. So she's going back.

    Maybe I'll try a 830. That should work better.
    05-07-2017 11:48 AM
  15. nick popplewell's Avatar
    So your sending the 930 back?
    05-07-2017 12:19 PM
  16. jack69453's Avatar
    The H+ mean HSDPA, which is 3.5G as tmoore71 said earlier. So you are on something above standard 3G but not LTE. The phone will not say "3G" but that is what it is using. So in terms of what you wanted. It has it.
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    05-07-2017 12:41 PM
  17. nick popplewell's Avatar
    Who else sales the L930? I'd like to get ahold of one
    05-08-2017 02:37 AM
  18. brian stabinger's Avatar
    The H+ mean HSDPA, which is 3.5G as tmoore71 said earlier. So you are on something above standard 3G but not LTE. The phone will not say "3G" but that is what it is using. So in terms of what you wanted. It has it.
    I think 3G would be fine, however it was dropping service, especially when in-doors. I am in a large metro area, so you'd think this wouldn't be an issue.
    05-08-2017 07:41 AM
  19. Drael646464's Avatar
    I think 3G would be fine, however it was dropping service, especially when in-doors. I am in a large metro area, so you'd think this wouldn't be an issue.
    Carriers typically use two frequencies for 3g, one for broad coverage, and one for building penetration in cities.
    05-09-2017 05:04 AM
  20. nick popplewell's Avatar
    Does anyone have a 930 laying around that they are willing to part with?
    05-14-2017 01:56 AM
  21. xandros9's Avatar
    Does anyone have a 930 laying around that they are willing to part with?
    If you're looking to buy, the Marketplace is the way to go.
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    05-15-2017 04:50 AM

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