06-08-2017 08:49 AM
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  1. etphoto's Avatar
    I agree what was already mentioned in this thread. This is nail in coffin for WP. Probably 2/3rds of the remaining WP users aren't on sites like this and will figure their old phone is broken and will go out and get a new phone. Android or IOS

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
    xandros9 likes this.
    06-02-2017 07:46 AM
  2. Steven Jepson's Avatar
    I'm on Insiders, and I'm trying to figure out why my phone (950XL) AUTOMATICALLY pushed it overnight.

    Doing WDRT; pretty pissed off...
    06-02-2017 07:55 AM
  3. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    If the update has downloaded and prepared but not yet rebooted to install it, you can set the date 40 years in the future and shutdown the phone by holding the power button and swiping down. Turn it back on and go back to phone update, it should purge the "obsolete" update. Then set the time back to normal and reboot again.

    I can't take credit for this, found it on the twitter, but it worked for me.
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    06-02-2017 08:04 AM
  4. nate0's Avatar
    I downloaded the WDRT software for Alcatel to my PC but can't get the phones to flash, no retry option either Phones are on lightning bolt (Flash) mode but will not flash no matter how long I wait, just keep on restating when usb cable is plugged into PC. Is Microsoft doing anything ? Anybody? I'm without phones no and feel this should be an important enough problem for them to publish an emergency patch!
    If Microsoft did issue an emergency patch for the IDOL4s it would not be for the phone but rather to patch the WDRT so that it can flash the Open Market device properly. On the other hand Alcatel could release a FW patch that could save the phone if it has not already been rebooted and in a boot loop.... Are you using the T-Mobil variant or Unlocked Open market model? Either way it sounds like you are best off contacting Alcatel at this point as I mentioned before.
    06-02-2017 08:27 AM
  5. mtf1380's Avatar
    Thank you @PepperdotNet:) you the "man"... worked for me too!
    nate0 and Kerry2112 like this.
    06-02-2017 10:43 AM
  6. Danobe's Avatar
    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...f-372286777156


    Only WDRT works if it downloads and installs. Check out some of the responses with links to stories about this.
    Jackalito likes this.
    06-02-2017 12:23 PM
  7. drevdaug's Avatar
    I was saying "final nail in the coffin" last night as well. I was actually looking at Android devices online as I tried to repair my Lumia 735(I have a iPhone 6 for work... meh). I don't know if this thing will last long enough, if no new devices are released on Verizon soon.

    My Lumia 735 restored to 8.1, so I had to go through the process to get it back up to 10. Over 5 hours of my life lost getting my phone back. It actually runs a lot better now than it has in a while. I still love how my Windows phone works, but if they don't release new devices soon, I will have to jump ship. I only bought my 735 to hold me over from my beloved 928. I didn't plan on this phone having to last long term while we wait for better devices.
    06-02-2017 12:40 PM
  8. xandros9's Avatar
    I was saying "final nail in the coffin" last night as well. I was actually looking at Android devices online as I tried to repair my Lumia 735(I have a iPhone 6 for work... meh). I don't know if this thing will last long enough, if no new devices are released on Verizon soon.

    My Lumia 735 restored to 8.1, so I had to go through the process to get it back up to 10. Over 5 hours of my life lost getting my phone back. It actually runs a lot better now than it has in a while. I still love how my Windows phone works, but if they don't release new devices soon, I will have to jump ship. I only bought my 735 to hold me over from my beloved 928. I didn't plan on this phone having to last long term while we wait for better devices.
    You're going to have to jump ship, Windows 10 Mobile doesn't even support any chipsets newer than what's in the Elite X3 and there's no metaphorical land to be found on the horizon for both software and hardware save for the odd iceberg and piece of driftwood.

    Although MS did get the "rebooting" part in the "rebooting mobile software and hardware" right.
    06-02-2017 12:44 PM
  9. anon(9809330)'s Avatar
    It didn't recognise my Lumia 950, but clicking[B] "Device not recognised?" enabled me to select 'Lumia 950', and it worked fine, from there. Perhaps, that's just a Lumia thing. However, some people have succeeded in recovering, by simply clicking retry, over and over again. It seems, because of the frequent restarts, there is a small window for the recognition process to catch. Also, someone said this occurred throughout the process of re-flashing, but it still worked, eventually.
    This is exactly what happened with my 4s T-Mobile edition. Must have clicked retry about 60 times till the 2.49 GB file finished downloading.
    06-02-2017 02:10 PM
  10. TgeekB's Avatar
    What a disaster.

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
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    06-02-2017 03:29 PM
  11. Steven Jepson's Avatar
    Well, WMDT (sp?) worked, and I was able to get things back up to speed - sort of. I lost Windows Hello (due to the front camera issue, I guess), and it's taking a while to get things working. At least I'm up...

    I'm hoping MS sends out patches to those who don't have the 950 and are now ditching the OS.

    And here's a thought - while they're at it, they need to realize that if they're thinking of transforming WM 10 (or whatever it's called these days) into a business tool, they should know that Skype (as a business tool) would require the front camera to work. Then they'd put out a patch or fix for the front camera issue!!!
    06-02-2017 05:16 PM
  12. Iain_S's Avatar
    Well, L930 stuck in a reboot loop and can´t connect to WDRT to reset.... Any advise?

    (i cant even get the exclamation mark......)
    you need to use Nokia's software recovery tools. Microsofts wdrt does not support nokia's phones.
    cbmago likes this.
    06-02-2017 07:11 PM
  13. Iain_S's Avatar
    If Microsoft did issue an emergency patch for the IDOL4s it would not be for the phone but rather to patch the WDRT so that it can flash the Open Market device properly. On the other hand Alcatel could release a FW patch that could save the phone if it has not already been rebooted and in a boot loop.... Are you using the T-Mobil variant or Unlocked Open market model? Either way it sounds like you are best off contacting Alcatel at this point as I mentioned before.
    This is a known issue with the FFU available for the open market idol 4s, but nobody either at MS or Alcatel seem to be in a hurry to fix the problem, the device id's do not match between the ffu and the device so you will receive an error after you power off and go into flash mode. If your phone is bricked from this internal build ******* it up you can flash the tmobile FFU.
    06-02-2017 07:16 PM
  14. Iain_S's Avatar
    If Microsoft did issue an emergency patch for the IDOL4s it would not be for the phone but rather to patch the WDRT so that it can flash the Open Market device properly. On the other hand Alcatel could release a FW patch that could save the phone if it has not already been rebooted and in a boot loop.... Are you using the T-Mobil variant or Unlocked Open market model? Either way it sounds like you are best off contacting Alcatel at this point as I mentioned before.
    This is a known issue with the FFU available for the open market idol 4s, but nobody either at MS or Alcatel seem to be in a hurry to fix the problem, the device id's do not match between the ffu and the device so you will receive an error after you power off and go into flash mode. If your phone is bricked from this internal build ******* it up you can flash the tmobile FFU.
    06-02-2017 07:16 PM
  15. Tony Saragosa's Avatar
    glad the updates were pulled, this morning i was no longer being offered the updates.
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    06-02-2017 07:18 PM
  16. wgrs's Avatar
    glad the updates were pulled, this morning i was no longer being offered the updates.
    They are not even able to pull that crap immediately. And the Twitter girl claims only 20 people affected.
    xandros9 likes this.
    06-02-2017 11:27 PM
  17. nate0's Avatar
    They all must use WC.

    They are not even able to pull that crap immediately. And the Twitter girl claims only 20 people affected.
    It is like the shuttle crawler-transporter. Huge operation Microsoft is...and it takes time to first recongnize the problem. Then contact the right people to correct it. Then initiate the corrective action....30 min is a good turnaround for most operations, but considering the cutomer facing scrutiny Microsoft will get now, it would not matter if were only 20 people who got the bunk builds or 20000.
    Last edited by xandros9; 06-03-2017 at 03:33 AM.
    06-02-2017 11:54 PM
  18. chancooluk's Avatar
    They are not even able to pull that crap immediately. And the Twitter girl claims only 20 people affected.
    What a load of rubbish. My Mum came around this morning "my phone is broken!". Yep appears to have updated itself overnight, and this morning it won't boot past the Microsoft Logo...

    She's using a Lumia 650, not an insider.
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    06-03-2017 06:30 AM
  19. ghce's Avatar
    WTF, 20 people my ar*e, was waiting for my wife to respond to me on WeChat at midnight last night only to find that my phone had bricked itself due to this new FU from Microsoft.
    Took me several hours to get the phone running again using the WDRT . Even the godd@med MS cloud based back up file for my phone wouldn't work correctly so I had to waste even more hours getting the start screen to be populated. MS at this point is a total joke! How does the rest of the non technical world hope to get the potential hundreds of thousands of phones un-bricked. Hopefully someone will sue their dam ars*es over this monumental **** up.

    A suitable tag for this is how to commercially destroy a product with the push of a button.
    wgrs likes this.
    06-03-2017 10:22 AM
  20. jirkahtc's Avatar
    you need to use Nokia's software recovery tools. Microsofts wdrt does not support nokia's phones.
    WDRT support Nokia Lumia 930!


    06-03-2017 01:16 PM
  21. zocster's Avatar
    Hah maybe heads will roll ...

    Sent from mTalk on 950XL
    ghce likes this.
    06-03-2017 02:05 PM
  22. gbm97's Avatar
    My Lumia 650 awakes me each morning almost.
    Since I gave up on Android I have more late days then anyone in the plant.
    Friday morning I slept in.
    Checking my phone I was greeted with the Microsoft Logo.
    Thinking I hit the power on button maybe its in normal boot mode.
    No no, no no it was stuck in boot mode even after going through all the battery pulling and reset attempts.
    I could not even phone work to supply an excuse.
    They are all Android fans with one Blackberry d ick up in the office.
    Online search revealed it was a release error and the one and only solution was the Windows Device Recovery Tool.
    The WDRT had my Lumia 650 working again surprising quick.

    The worse part is re downloading apps and re arranging everything back to normal.
    The best part about being on the Creators update is no need to go through all that so often.
    My gf says I have OCD each time she sees me dragging my tiles around and around again. I think I'm done now...just one tile does not match the one that matches the background transparency that makes the Outlook tile look like the Calendar tile when the yellow Weather Network App tile is in the centre of it all.

    I quit & re join the Windows Insider program probably to many times to the point I forget if I'm an Insider or not so duh not sure what release I was on when it happened.
    Last edited by gbm97; 06-03-2017 at 02:59 PM. Reason: typo
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    06-03-2017 02:32 PM
  23. phelme's Avatar
    @Snoke, please go the link provided by @Antchexec : https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexp...D5ocSdYogBe.97. Be sure to do a back up "NOW" so you are as protected as possible. I too have my 950XL on pause for a week, so the update doesn't finish the update, and will give it that week to see if MSFT will come up with a Delete & Replace option.
    I got caught out by this too. And my backup, which was made the same day, was corrupt or something and useless. Sucks.
    06-03-2017 07:58 PM
  24. TechJunkie81's Avatar
    Woke up to my Lumia 1520 being a brick because of this. WDRT took care of it.

    Haven't put Win 10 Mobile back on it yet. I find myself missing the smoothness of WP 8.1.
    nate0 likes this.
    06-03-2017 08:28 PM
  25. nate0's Avatar
    Woke up to my Lumia 1520 being a brick because of this. WDRT took care of it.

    Haven't put Win 10 Mobile back on it yet. I find myself missing the smoothness of WP 8.1.
    I kinda want another HTC M8 for that reason 😉
    TechJunkie81 likes this.
    06-03-2017 08:39 PM
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