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  1. eshropshire's Avatar
    Perhaps everyone is overreacting to this? Whether or not the platform is dead depends on each one of us and our definition of 'dead'. It might be dead because of no apps, it may be dead because of no new hardware, it may be dead because of some other thing. But for others it may still work for whatever they need it for and so, in that respect, the platform will always have a use and will necessarily be dead. It's up to how everyone interprets it for themselves.

    If you no longer trust MS, and I wouldn't blame you, or you don't have the apps you need, then by all means, move to a platform that meets your needs. Microsoft tried, failed, tried, failed, tried and have failed again. They kept trying until Nadella decided enough is enough and who can really blame him? MS has definitely moved focus and instead is turning in to a software and services only company, as long as they get their products on as many devices they can then the remain relevant. They no longer want to build the house, they just want to make the furniture.

    I will still keep using my 950XL. There are no apps I am willing to move platform for, and the price of the latest handsets on both Android and iOS is just too expensive for me. At a push, I would go for a Nokia Android device, if I really had to choose, but I am happy with what I have, MS may have given up hope on the platform and many others here and elsewhere may turn their backs, but, that doesn't mean I have to follow the crowd and do the same.

    Whether you stay or go, as long as you do what is right for you, and that is what MS seems to be relaying to us all, that is the main thing.
    I believe the issue for many is they have held onto older hardware or phones with problems for awhile with the hope that MS would come out with something new. Others have been waiting for new features in the OS. The latest statements are clear if you want updated HW and an actively developed OS it's time to move on.

    For others that are happy with their Windows phones and enjoy the experience there is no reason to move.
    badcat likes this.
    10-10-2017 01:29 PM
  2. Tigerinc's Avatar
    I'm definitely staying. I always try the others and quickly come back. Enjoying my 950 (work) and 950 XL right now. Some serious advantages remain for us on this OS and hardware at the moment. :)
    editguy, fin11 and MrockNroll like this.
    10-10-2017 01:38 PM
  3. Burnnerman's Avatar
    I am going to stick with it till my phone gives up the ghost or Microsoft releases their rumored mobile windows core product in 2018-2019 time frame.
    fin11 likes this.
    10-10-2017 05:10 PM
  4. sd4f's Avatar
    One thing that's making it very difficult for me to consider other phones is the camera, last weekend went with a friend around a lot of scenic areas, and she has a SGS8, I just can't see what the hype around the SGS8 camera is, photos just don't come out as well as the L950 ones.
    Last edited by sd4f; 10-10-2017 at 07:30 PM.
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    10-10-2017 05:16 PM
  5. Juan Stevens's Avatar
    Who else is with me? Till the bitter end we stick together, we will make it through, and we know good things come to those who wait.

    My 1520 finally crashed and screen shattered, I'm now looking for a 950XL as an upgrade or if I can find an HP x3 for cheap that'll be great too.

    I don't think WM is a burning and a sinking ship at all, I just think we're in a transitional phase, and there's absolutely no reason why MS isn't doing something secretly in their Research Lab. They're most likely preparing for the post-smartphone era that's about to unfold in the next couple of years or so. I'm very excited to finally see the "foldable phone" they've been working on for quite some time now, and I'm sure it'll be great.

    I would totally understand why you are leaving this platform, and it's absolutely within reason and totally justified, I won't miss you though because I know deep down inside, you've got a special place for WM and you'll eventually come back to us when a new spark has been ignited.

    But for us who are staying and sticking through this long haul, we're going to be all right. Everything is going to be all right. We shall make it through and reap the rewards when the time is right.
    Not going anywhere. And I'm actually one of those people that uses continuum. And I believe they'll be playing the word games. Yes mobile is dead but they'll have full Windows 10 devices that can make calls. They haven't finished aligning all their tools yet. Soon they will have a real write once and hit every platform. And they're hoping the windows mixed reality will bring companies to create apps. Please. it's just beginning. I don't fault anyone for taking the easy path and leaving. But I know they'll be back. lol.
    10-11-2017 12:28 AM
  6. Markus the merq's Avatar
    Sticking with my Lumia 950 for as long as I can, partly because Continuum works out great for me and the superior UI. However, I have ordered a Android One device as I have customers using apps not present for W10M, so I expect to be running two devices for the foreseeable future. Until the ubiquitous and device-less (which is actually devices and sensors everywhere) future arrives...
    raycpl and fin11 like this.
    10-11-2017 03:43 AM
  7. raycpl's Avatar
    Sticking with my Lumia 950 for as long as I can, partly because Continuum works out great for me and the superior UI. However, I have ordered a Android One device .....
    Same here

    Continuum works quite well when you have a need for it.

    A work, (with the dock, mouse/keyboard), I dont use lots of apps, but 90% of the time I'm running excel, once a while I'll use mTalk to get in here (these forums). The rest is Telegram, and email. Whatever apps that is not UWP, I'll use multiple tabs in Edge.

    End of the day, I just unplug and roll up a few cables and I'm gone from the office in seconds.
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    10-11-2017 04:10 AM
  8. Saeglopur89's Avatar
    The amount of denial here... And I'm writing this as a strong fan and early adopter of all Microsoft services. We have to understand that it's not the end of Windows 10 Mobile, that was stated some time ago due to One Windows, but it's the end of whole Microsoft ecosystem based on UWP apps and everything - this is what Belfiore stated. This makes me really worried about whole Windows future.
    10-11-2017 04:16 AM
  9. dov1978's Avatar
    One thing that's making it very difficult for me to consider other phones is the camera, last weekend went with a friend around a lot of scenic areas, and she has a SGS8, I just can't see what the hype around the SGS8 camera is, photos just don't come out as well as the L950 ones.
    I had the Galaxy S8 and s8 Plus and I kinda agree that the camera is nothing special but the 950 is showing it's age now I'm afraid. I've compared a lot of photos from my 950xl to my current Huawei P10 and the P10 are generally much better. Not only the quality of pics but the camera functionality. The 950s are way behind on features now too. The new Pixel cameras too are amazing.
    10-11-2017 05:02 AM
  10. badcat's Avatar
    Ask the people in charge.
    Someone's in charge?
    10-11-2017 05:29 AM
  11. TgeekB's Avatar
    Someone's in charge?
    🤣
    badcat likes this.
    10-11-2017 05:39 AM
  12. G4Grandad's Avatar
    I'm standing my ground, tearing my hair, cursing Microsoft and thinking Enough is Enough. My L830
    downloaded the .1770 update 2 hours ago, it only took a few minutes as usual BUT
    Instead of installing it I've been left staring at the blue Windows logo for 2 hours and thinking "Is this the end? Is the phone bricked this time?"
    Every software update for the past 6 months has been increasingly problematic when it comes to installation. The first time it wouldn't begin the install for about 10 minutes, next time 20 minutes, then 30, and today 2 hours.
    Has anyone else had similar Issues? Is there a reason this happens? Is there a solution? With Windows Phone there aren't any answers anywhere for any of us.
    But my digital life was locked inside a useless paperweight as I stared at that dammed Windows logo for 2 hours this morning removing and replacing the battery a hundred times before it rebooted and began the installation. And I don't even know if doing that made any difference, do I?
    So how long will I be without a phone when the next patch arrives? And is it worth the hassle?
    I love my phone and the OS. I want to stand my ground. I want to stay. But every indication is telling me I'm a fool(and potentially a fool without a usable phone) if I do.
    Last edited by G4Grandad; 10-11-2017 at 07:42 AM.
    10-11-2017 05:58 AM
  13. Adventurer64's Avatar
    The amount of denial here... And I'm writing this as a strong fan and early adopter of all Microsoft services. We have to understand that it's not the end of Windows 10 Mobile, that was stated some time ago due to One Windows, but it's the end of whole Microsoft ecosystem based on UWP apps and everything - this is what Belfiore stated. This makes me really worried about whole Windows future.
    I agree 100% on Windows 10 and UWP future being in doubt and believe Mobile failure is bigger issue than MS is admitting. Everyone I know hates Windows 10 and either prefers IOs or chrome. Strong movement at my employer to ditch PC in favor of Macs.
    10-11-2017 09:13 AM
  14. Jd Dvoit's Avatar
    I'm sticking with my (Nokia) Lumia 735, love it! It's running Win10 insider and pretty much does all I want. I'm not an App fan and only use the bare minimum. I mainly use it for texting, whatsapp, facebook and sometimes use it to talk to people :-) I occasionally use the map app and take the odd photo when out n about.

    I'm not too impressed with WM being dropped as it will mean having dip my hand in my pocket to buy the replacement - whatever it will be :-) We shouldn't try to stop evolution to save a few shillings! I'm quite excited by the "PC in your Pocket" situation and WCOS, its regrettable that we'll have good kit that will become redundant but hey ho, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette! Make way for progress.
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    10-11-2017 09:26 AM
  15. etphoto's Avatar
    It's makes one think, why now does MS make the announcement about W10m at this particular time? Is it because One Core is right around the corner? Meaning closer than we think. Wishful thinking on my part.

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
    10-11-2017 09:47 AM
  16. jeffchapik's Avatar
    I'm not going anywhere. I'll keep using my 640 until it dies and I cannot find another one. I refuse to submit to Apple's greed, and I tried Android earlier this year and wasn't crazy about it. It's too disjointed and clunky compared to W10M. And I can't believe how primative Okay Google is compared to Cortana, especially when it comes to hands free texting and voice navigation in the car. Had MS publicized this at all, WM might have taken off. I just took it for granted that all mobile OS worked this well until I tried Android. I was very disappointed. I wanted to like it, but it was too much of a step backwards in so many areas.
    mrdeeds_72 and Awhispersecho like this.
    10-11-2017 10:34 AM
  17. brondanino's Avatar
    I'm still going after the illusion that something good and new will come out of MS Labs for mobile users. Truth is that when a beloved device like my 950XL (the third I bought) is starting falling in pieces (yes I "consume" my mobile devices) I don't have other choices. If apps keep crashing right when you need them or the camera only shows a black screen for 15 seconds after launching.... I lose a nice picture of my son running under the falling leaves. And I have to start thinking about moving to Android. And no the $$$$ iPhones are not an option (nor the S8, for that matter).
    I'll stick with Win10Mobile as much as I can, but an Android is coming on my way.
    10-11-2017 11:05 AM
  18. onysi's Avatar
    My daily driver is still going to be windows phone/ windows mobile. I was going to start a new post and ask around but I saw your post, so I didn't want to make a double post.

    Right now I am still on my alcatell, but if this breaks, I will have the option to get the high end ones. And since microsoft will continue to support it and update it then theirs no reason for anyone who are fans to jump ship.

    I love how fast and reliable the outlook is, messengers, texting, and overall windows phone still is a fast and fluid phone. I've also been carrying an android phone just to see how or which phoen I use more often, and well basically, when it comes to social media, I only use facebook/instagram/twitter (all avail on wm). The onyl thing I use on my android is the snapchat, and i dont care much for what people post, its only when I trade noodz with someone. yup, my second android phone is just use for sexting. I'm not much of a social media ***** like everyone else.
    My WM is still getting msot of the heavy loads and will continue to do so until the technology or OS becomes obsolete.

    Oh and to be fair, grindr is also on android, and that's a necessity. so maybe snapchat/grindr.
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    10-12-2017 12:00 AM
  19. editguy's Avatar
    I agree 100% on Windows 10 and UWP future being in doubt and believe Mobile failure is bigger issue than MS is admitting. Everyone I know hates Windows 10 and either prefers IOs or chrome. Strong movement at my employer to ditch PC in favor of Macs.
    Very few companies will do this. The cost of replacement and training exceeds what they are willing to spend. Add to that, Macs have their own issues. I run a Mac lab at my school and have frequent problems (and, since I'm an educator, I've been using Macs in my work life since 1984). In my personal life I use nothing but Windows and that includes editing HD video for my freelance work. Windows provides far more flexibility both in hardware and software. The reason there are people that prefer iOS or Chrome is because it doesn't require you to invest any significant time into learning it's features. A three year old can do it.
    10-12-2017 01:25 AM
  20. Adventurer64's Avatar
    I agree Windows is heavily entrenched in many corporations. However, I do run across many startups and smaller companies using macs. My company is piloting Surface Pros and IPad Pros for our Mobile workers. IPad is favored because of iPhone usage across our company.
    10-12-2017 08:48 AM
  21. etphoto's Avatar
    The different between WeboOS and Windows is, Windows is still going to around (I'm not going to count WebOS on TVs). One Core will come and there will be hardware, but, that could be another year or so. I doubt my 735 will last that long but . . . we'll see.
    10-12-2017 09:26 AM
  22. Adventurer64's Avatar
    I'm all for One Core. I'll buy whatever Mobile device comes out with One Core, but I suspect that will never happen. W10M is dead with no glimmer of hope from MS on next evolution. For me, dead means no new hardware.
    10-12-2017 12:12 PM
  23. etphoto's Avatar
    I'm all for One Core. I'll buy whatever Mobile device comes out with One Core, but I suspect that will never happen. W10M is dead with no glimmer of hope from MS on next evolution. For me, dead means no new hardware.
    I assume u realize this but One Core and W10m are two different beasts. I agree, the hope of W10m is very bleak but why do suspect no hardware for One Core? It's been MS plan since Vista to have one OS for everything and One Core is a step in that direction.

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
    10-12-2017 12:30 PM
  24. Adventurer64's Avatar
    I assume u realize this but One Core and W10m are two different beasts. I agree, the hope of W10m is very bleak but why do suspect no hardware for One Core? It's been MS plan since Vista to have one OS for everything and One Core is a step in that direction.

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
    No hardware for W10M, not one core, is what I meant by dead. I think One Core will have same app limitation discouraging mobile device development for One Core. Of course, apps wouldn't stop me from purchasing device since I purchased my 1st W10M 8 MThs ago. What a dumb$$$, hahaha.
    10-12-2017 03:31 PM
  25. MrockNroll's Avatar
    Do you have a backup older WM phone? I keep all my older WM phones, just in case, luckily my trusty 950 xl is getting better and running strong. :-)
    fin11 likes this.
    10-12-2017 09:23 PM
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