1. RobbieRobski's Avatar
    Does anyone get the feeling that since the official announcement of w10m being killed off that things that worked perfectly seem to have problems now? Like a subtle nudge, wtf are you still doing on windows

    Take messaging for example.

    On a regular basis my message app looks like this

    ss_01.jpg
    ss_02.jpg

    Each thread is actually a conversation with a different person but for some reason the contact portrait and message preview is duplicated over the top of other contacts/messages.

    If I tap on a thread then it will load the proper contact/conversation but it makes it really hard to keep track of who I was talking to when this happens.

    Rebooting does not fix the issue. I am on "1709"

    Other frustrating things that happen would be sometimes simply trying to open the message app actually takes several seconds to load.

    Most frustrating is trying to use Cortana and it taking several seconds before you hear the sound cue to let you know she's listening, or just not working in general so you cant even tap cancel to get back to a text box.

    For all it's flaws, I've been content on w10m but now it's like stuff is breaking down.

    Idol 4s.
    Mr Mendelli likes this.
    11-15-2017 07:54 PM
  2. Austin Andelin's Avatar
    Haven't run into the Messaging bug, but I have noticed Cortana is slower than in previous updates. Frustrated with Microsoft's handling of W10M, but I think they're content to just let it slide into disrepair.
    Lumia 950
    11-15-2017 08:49 PM
  3. patcherd's Avatar
    I noticed on the Alcatel Idol 4S that when I am scrolling through a comment section my screen will freeze up or when trying to close out my applications running in the background it will often times freeze . Very annoying .

    I am also experiencing the Cortana delay also. If I press the icon she will take a few seconds to respond. Sometimes is frustrating.

    I am running slow ring with the latest update and this has been going on for a little while now.
    11-16-2017 08:24 AM
  4. xandros9's Avatar
    I mean, things have always been quirky to varying degrees from the beginning.
    PerfectReign and EspHack like this.
    11-16-2017 09:26 AM
  5. patcherd's Avatar
    That is very true. At least texting on windows is a far better experience than android....and that's not saying much.
    11-16-2017 10:20 AM
  6. spicypadthai's Avatar
    Another good one is I can't edit my Outlook account's mail/calendar settings. Tapping it in Manage Accounts doesn't do anything. I just noticed it yesterday after updating to build 15254.12 but based on the feedback app, it looks like it started with the Fall Creators Update.
    11-16-2017 10:55 AM
  7. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Before any of us can offer suggestions it is beneficial to know what type of phone it is, which version of W10 is currently in place and whether it's a production build or Insider. Please remember Insider builds are for testing and culling data regarding the builds and most importantly, non-supported phones have no business being on these newer builds in the first place. Just because you can spoof a phone to get the nice shiny new builds doesn't mean it's going to be a pleasurable experience.
    11-16-2017 04:14 PM
  8. spicypadthai's Avatar
    Before any of us can offer suggestions it is beneficial to know what type of phone it is, which version of W10 is currently in place and whether it's a production build or Insider. Please remember Insider builds are for testing and culling data regarding the builds and most importantly, non-supported phones have no business being on these newer builds in the first place. Just because you can spoof a phone to get the nice shiny new builds doesn't mean it's going to be a pleasurable experience.
    Agreed but that disclaimer doesn't help us. The OP is using an Idol 4S as is another person who posted. The OP is on the Fall Creators Update and I'm assuming production. Not sure if it's the most recent build. I'm using a 950XL on production, latest build. So the original point is a valid one, and not unexpected given MS's abandonment of W10M.
    11-16-2017 04:36 PM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Agreed but that disclaimer doesn't help us. The OP is using an Idol 4S as is another person who posted. The OP is on the Fall Creators Update and I'm assuming production. Not sure if it's the most recent build. I'm using a 950XL on production, latest build. So the original point is a valid one, and not unexpected given MS's abandonment of W10M.
    Abandonment, whether real or imagined, doesn't create problems retroactively. Bugs do not create themselves. Either a corrupted file or perhaps a conflicted app update was introduced into the system OR the user never noticed.

    Not focusing on the future doesn't constitute abandonment either. Belfiore stated bug fixes and security updates was the path forward yet the FCU was released afterward.
    11-16-2017 05:43 PM
  10. spicypadthai's Avatar
    Abandonment, whether real or imagined, doesn't create problems retroactively. Bugs do not create themselves. Either a corrupted file or perhaps a conflicted app update was introduced into the system OR the user never noticed.

    Not focusing on the future doesn't constitute abandonment either. Belfiore stated bug fixes and security updates was the path forward yet the FCU was released afterward.
    What big new feature did the Fall Creators Update introduce for mobile? New emojis? Focused inbox? It's the very definition of "bug fixes and security updates" so I'm not understanding your point. If you actually read the issues reported here and did a little research on the feedback app, at least for the one I'm talking about, you'll see it's a real issue that appears to have started with the FCU. Given MS's attitude towards W10M and focus elsewhere, it's easy to see how obvious bugs slip through their QA.
    11-16-2017 06:05 PM
  11. fatclue_98's Avatar
    What big new feature did the Fall Creators Update introduce for mobile? New emojis? Focused inbox? It's the very definition of "bug fixes and security updates" so I'm not understanding your point. If you actually read the issues reported here and did a little research on the feedback app, at least for the one I'm talking about, you'll see it's a real issue that appears to have started with the FCU. Given MS's attitude towards W10M and focus elsewhere, it's easy to see how obvious bugs slip through their QA.
    The point is we weren't supposed to get any new OS updates per Belfiore. The point is people like to read between the lines instead of black and white. The point is that people make assumptions not based on any facts. You assumed the OP is on a production build even though he/she hasn't stated anything. You assume I haven't read any posts here or on feedback site. I have an Idol 4S on the current FW and it exhibits none of the issues described here or any other site. It has typical device-specific issues that are not within the purview of the OS, but rather Alcatel's total disregard for issuing firmware updates. I trust you know the difference between the two. If not, do "a little research".
    11-16-2017 07:21 PM
  12. spicypadthai's Avatar
    The point is we weren't supposed to get any new OS updates per Belfiore. The point is people like to read between the lines instead of black and white. The point is that people make assumptions not based on any facts. You assumed the OP is on a production build even though he/she hasn't stated anything. You assume I haven't read any posts here or on feedback site. I have an Idol 4S on the current FW and it exhibits none of the issues described here or any other site. It has typical device-specific issues that are not within the purview of the OS, but rather Alcatel's total disregard for issuing firmware updates. I trust you know the difference between the two. If not, do "a little research".
    Get over yourself. We all know you're the smartest guy on the boards but at least be consistent before getting your panties in a bunch. First you're assuming, (see, I can do it, too) the problem is b/c we're using unsupported phones on Insider builds when all the identified ones in the thread are formally supported. Then you're defending W10M as if you're the project lead and any criticism is unfounded b/c you don't have any of the problems reported here. Although it's widely reported and accepted W10M has been buggy/sluggish from the start but good for you, keep the blinders on and defend the situation until the bitter end. And while it's not 100% certain the OP is on production, he/she probably is based on how he/she referenced his/her version as 1709 and not as a specific build or as a phone on the Insider program. Which makes me think, is there even an Insider mobile build right now? Assuming, and I know you hate to do that, yes, I'm assuming (there I go again!) it's not a big jump vs. production given the confirmed product road map. Anyway, you're technically correct and I'm sure that's important to you.
    11-16-2017 08:55 PM
  13. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Get over yourself. We all know you're the smartest guy on the boards but at least be consistent before getting your panties in a bunch. First you're assuming, (see, I can do it, too) the problem is b/c we're using unsupported phones on Insider builds when all the identified ones in the thread are formally supported. Then you're defending W10M as if you're the project lead and any criticism is unfounded b/c you don't have any of the problems reported here. Although it's widely reported and accepted W10M has been buggy/sluggish from the start but good for you, keep the blinders on and defend the situation until the bitter end. And while it's not 100% certain the OP is on production, he/she probably is based on how he/she referenced his/her version as 1709 and not as a specific build or as a phone on the Insider program. Which makes me think, is there even an Insider mobile build right now? Assuming, and I know you hate to do that, yes, I'm assuming (there I go again!) it's not a big jump vs. production given the confirmed product road map. Anyway, you're technically correct and I'm sure that's important to you.
    I'm far from being the smartest at anything, I'm a proud C student. What I do have are impeccable reading comprehension skills. My first post called for the most information possible to give the most helpful response possible. All we know about the OP is that it's an Idol 4S. For some reason, known only to you, my post came off as insulting. If asking for cold hard fact to assist someone is insulting or condescending, so be it.

    I don't give a fat baby's a$$ if you, the OP or anyone else fixes their problems. But if someone comes asking for help, I'm going to there to lend a hand because it feels good to help. For some, ditching their current phone isn't an option. Over and out.
    11-17-2017 09:19 AM
  14. PerfectReign's Avatar
    My X3 is running fine. Was using it this week while transitioning to a used Iphone for work.
    fatclue_98 likes this.
    11-17-2017 09:39 PM
  15. Adventurer64's Avatar
    I've noticed some issues with Pandora, Maps and Edge browser with my Idol 4S 1709 recently. I just use it as a media player and gps in my car and when I travel, so not the end of the world. But, it's getting annoying.
    11-17-2017 10:16 PM
  16. Patriots1959's Avatar
    Another good one is I can't edit my Outlook account's mail/calendar settings. Tapping it in Manage Accounts doesn't do anything. I just noticed it yesterday after updating to build 15254.12 but based on the feedback app, it looks like it started with the Fall Creators Update.
    I'm having the same problem on my Idol 4S since the 1709 update (then a factory reset). Has anyone found a resolution for this?
    11-27-2017 10:46 AM
  17. MrockNroll's Avatar
    We don't use Pandora, maps infrequently but edge everyday I will check wife's phone and report back here. T-mobile Idol 4S here. no problems yet that I know of.
    11-27-2017 01:40 PM
  18. MrockNroll's Avatar
    fatclue_98 are you on T-Mobile with your Idol 4S ?
    11-27-2017 01:42 PM
  19. RPG951S's Avatar
    Problem is the ridiculous flame-bating title of this thread.

    Man has problem with his phone, ergo W10M must be self-destructing.
    Narcissism at it's best.
    fatclue_98 and milkyway like this.
    11-27-2017 05:11 PM
  20. fatclue_98's Avatar
    fatclue_98 are you on T-Mobile with your Idol 4S ?
    Yes I am.
    xandros9 likes this.
    11-27-2017 07:59 PM
  21. MrockNroll's Avatar
    Ok, I thought so thanks.
    11-28-2017 06:04 PM
  22. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Being that I rarely bother with Facebook I noticed an odd quirk. The last time I had a Windows phone that wasn't an HP x3 or Acer Primo was around March. Neither of those phones ever had the crash problem at start up with the Facebook app so I figured an update had fixed whatever ailed it. Wrong. Fired up the app yesterday and it crashed. Tried 3 more times today and got the same results. Either Alcatel really sucks or HP and Acer are that much more optimized. Judging by the level of support Idols have enjoyed, I'm convinced it's both.

    Sent from my Idol 4S on mTalk
    11-28-2017 06:55 PM
  23. patcherd's Avatar
    anthonyng------I got them on eBay for under $200 each NIB.
    12-02-2017 09:52 PM

Similar Threads

  1. Still looking for the perfect music app
    By Bobvfr in forum Groove Music
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 12-09-2017, 05:07 AM
  2. Final Fantasy 15 multiplayer expansion out now on Xbox One
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-15-2017, 07:40 PM
  3. This bestselling Roomba is currently the lowest price it's ever been
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-15-2017, 07:00 PM
  4. Rainbow Six Siege is going free to play this weekend
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-15-2017, 01:30 PM
  5. Which Ring Doorbell is right for you?
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-15-2017, 09:40 AM
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD