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06-22-2018 05:57 PM
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  1. kingtigre's Avatar
    I miss what it was about a year ago.

    Mostly I miss Cortana. I mean the way she worked there. Hands free. Fully integrated. Powerful. You know, useful. Her implementation on Android is so nerfed that I feel frustrated. Diet Cortana sucks because I know how great she can be.

    I like having apps, but I've been trying PWAs and they are pretty darn good so far. The App gap could eventually close significantly in theory...but as with all things MS it's; too little, too late.

    Overall I liked when everything was under one roof. Now I have different houses for everything.
    Streaming music? Go to Spotify.
    My music? Groove.
    Videos? Movies Anywhere. (Unless I got it on Windows, then I need my PC.)
    Apps? Separate stores and purchases for my phone and my PC.
    Calendar? Don't get me started. I literally want to flip my damn desk over. Outlook calendar on Android is frustratingly disconnected.

    This is why I need telephony on Windows 10. I would rather carry an LTE Surface around than deal with this darn fragmented UX. One device to rule them all. Then Android can go straight to the garbage.
    Jcmg62, redevall, ladydias and 3 others like this.
    03-14-2018 12:03 PM
  2. Jcmg62's Avatar
    I've got a Samsung S8, it's an okay phone... but not as responsive as my 950 was. More apps, but the UI isn't as smooth. I've got the MS Launcher, and that helps, but it doesn't integrate well with my outlook.com account.
    I had endless problems getting my outlook account to work with the Android outlook app. When I went through the setup it would think for a few seconds then just take me back to the sign in page. It kept saying it couldn't authenticate my account

    It caused massive problems for me.

    The other big issue was with contacts and calendar events. Because that's all tied into outlook it was an absolute nightmare getting it to sync.

    In the end, I gave up and started accessing my emails through the outlook.com website. Fortunately the Outlook.com site is a PWA so I saved it to my homescreen and it looks and works just like an app.

    Contacts are still a problem. I can't get my contacts in Windows to sync with Gmail :(
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    03-14-2018 12:05 PM
  3. bobsentell's Avatar
    Yes, though I admit I miss HP webOS more. Even with an "open" platform like Android, I find the constraints of using Google services too much. Even though I use Outlook, Launcher, Cortana, and OneDrive, the system is very quick to default back to Google whenever it can.
    03-14-2018 12:06 PM
  4. davidewart's Avatar
    I prefer Windows Mobile OS over Android - especially hate all the bloatware that cannot be uninstalled. But I'm also happy to have a phone that works wherever I roam. And that has those apps that WM never had.
    I'm hoping MS will keep developing their launcher along with greater Cortana integration and functionality.
    But on the whole, No, I'm not missing my Lumia 930.
    03-14-2018 12:14 PM
  5. Jcmg62's Avatar
    I miss what it was about a year ago.

    Mostly I miss Cortana. I mean the way she worked there. Hands free. Fully integrated. Powerful. You know, useful. Her implementation on Android is so nerfed that I feel frustrated. Diet Cortana sucks because I know how great she can be.

    I like having apps, but I've been trying PWAs and they are pretty darn good so far. The App gap could eventually close significantly in theory...but as with all things MS it's; too little, too late.

    Overall I liked when everything was under one roof. Now I have different houses for everything.
    Streaming music? Go to Spotify.
    My music? Groove.
    Videos? Movies Anywhere. (Unless I got it on Windows, then I need my PC.)
    Apps? Separate stores and purchases for my phone and my PC.
    Calendar? Don't get me started. I literally want to flip my damn desk over. Outlook calendar on Android is frustratingly disconnected.

    This is why I need telephony on Windows 10. I would rather carry an LTE Surface around than deal with this darn fragmented UX. One device to rule them all. Then Android can go straight to the garbage.
    Well said, couldn't agree more.

    There was a brief period in time when Microsoft nailed it and everything just synced so perfectly. As long as you were all in on Microsoft services (Groove, Film & TV, Office, etc) you could run Movies & Music across your laptop, tablet, phone and xbox so smoothly.

    For productivity it was so simple. Create documents and notes in one place and they'd just pop right up on any device.

    Take photos on your phone and 10 seconds later they were avialable to view on your xbox.

    I get that the MS app store was bare, but compared to the Google store that's just full of rubbish it was a safe, secure and so very, very simple to find what you were looking for.

    I'm using a few PWA's myself (Uber, Outlook, Trip Advisor, etc) and some of them are pretty darn amazing.

    I'm hoping that PWA's and a decent windows on arm andromeda device arrives this year. I'd ditch android in about a second flat.
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    03-14-2018 12:15 PM
  6. fjbeiderbecke's Avatar
    I jumped to an iPhone a while back. The apps I used the most weren't on WM or they were lesser version. I was disappointed in my 950XL. I think my favorite was a 1520.

    I have since moved to a Pixel 2 XL. It works.

    I miss the UI, the Cortana integration.
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    03-14-2018 12:15 PM
  7. drewsuruncle's Avatar
    Ahh yes. My daughter has my Idol 4s and I pick it up every so often and miss it every time I do. I do miss it for sure.
    03-14-2018 12:15 PM
  8. Blagoja Stojanovski's Avatar
    Had a Lumia 920, and although it never got Win10M, I loved the Win8.1M. after that I got the Motorla X Pure which works ok but feels a bit unreliable i regards to business needs. I simply bought the Motorola cause I was looking for a new phone and heard that Microsoft killed the Windows Mobile.
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    03-14-2018 12:17 PM
  9. redevall's Avatar
    Yes....working with a Samsung gN8 at the moment...but greatly miss my WinMob. Everything (for me) just worked and synced the way I needed it to or wanted it too. And as one poster said above...Cortana...I miss how the hands free would work... A LOT.
    03-14-2018 12:31 PM
  10. jsh1701's Avatar
    The wife and I have been with Windows phones since I switched from a 'dumb phone' to a smart phone. There was a short stint where my wife tried Android. She couldn't wait to switch back to Windows. We are milking our Windows devices for as long as we can. She has a Nokia 735, me an Icon. I dropped my Icon last year and shattered the screen and damaged the LCD, so I purchased an new Icon on EBay rather than switch. Hoping to hold out for something from MS with phone capabilities before these phones give up the ghost.
    03-14-2018 12:39 PM
  11. style2k12's Avatar
    I had endless problems getting my outlook account to work with the Android outlook app. When I went through the setup it would think for a few seconds then just take me back to the sign in page. It kept saying it couldn't authenticate my account

    It caused massive problems for me.

    The other big issue was with contacts and calendar events. Because that's all tied into outlook it was an absolute nightmare getting it to sync.

    In the end, I gave up and started accessing my emails through the outlook.com website. Fortunately the Outlook.com site is a PWA so I saved it to my homescreen and it looks and works just like an app.

    Contacts are still a problem. I can't get my contacts in Windows to sync with Gmail :(
    that is right i guess you have 2fa enabled? if that is the case you need to go to security settings and create an app pasword fill that in after you account name and your mail can be accesed.. your account doesnt change but its just for security . :)
    Jcmg62 likes this.
    03-14-2018 12:40 PM
  12. Random DS's Avatar
    I missed it so much, that I went back after a few days on android. Even with Square Home 2, it still wasn't good enough. And it was still google at its hearth, even though I disabled everything google related except the play store and its services. I will try switching again, this time to iOS, with an iPhone X in December, if I can't get my hands on Andromeda by that time, so wish me luck 😁 But my 650 is still chugging along nicely until that.
    Jcmg62 and editguy like this.
    03-14-2018 12:41 PM
  13. kwright62's Avatar
    The next phone for me after the 950XL is the Andromeda. Phone is a tool, not a hobby and it is working fine. No need to switch phones.
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    03-14-2018 12:45 PM
  14. romaink's Avatar
    It's been about a year for me since I switched to the LG G6.

    I'm still not satisfied with the experience.

    The thing I miss the most though, which Microsoft did not get credit for, was the great backup system which kept even start screen settings. Upgrade to a new device and all your apps, settings and format followed.

    Don't expect this on an Android device. It took me a couple days after a factory reset to get a launcher configured the way I want it. Now, I don't look forward to upgrading.
    ladydias likes this.
    03-14-2018 12:47 PM
  15. poit57's Avatar
    I switched to Android about 3 weeks ago after using Windows since the launch of Windows Phone 7. These are the things I'm finding myself missing the most:

    • User Interface of the Start screen - I feel that the tile layout and the addition of live tiles give Windows the best user interface of any smartphone platform. I tried a few different Windows-style launchers on Android, but without native live tiles, it just doesn't feel the same.
    • Outlook Mail app's handling of linked inboxes - I have several personal email accounts, though I mainly use my ISP-provided email. Others include a Yahoo account, Gmail account, iCloud account, but since I don't use them often I have all these accounts grouped into a linked inbox.

      I also have an Exchange account through work that I want to keep separate. Windows allows me to separately pin a shortcut to the linked inbox and the Exchange inbox to my start screen.

      Neither the Outlook app for Android nor the other email apps I've tried seem to have the ability to pin inbox shortcuts independently from one another. My workaround has been to use the Outlook app for all my personal emails and the built-in Gmail app for my Exchange email.
    • Outlook Calendar's handling of other accounts - When I sign into any account that includes a calendar in the Windows system settings, the calendars are automatically displayed in the Outlook Calendar app.

      Integrating all the calendars from other account, including Outlook and Facebook, into the system calendar on Android is much more complicated.
    • Cortana - The Cortana app in Android is severely lacking compared to Windows. Other than being able to set reminders from my home PC and have them pop up on the phone, Cortana seems almost pointless on an Android device, especially since voice recognition only works if the app is opened or the Cortana microphone is manually triggered.


    On the positive side, the Facebook doesn't crash every other time it is opened like on Windows, and my Garmin watch consistently syncs and gets notifications that seldomly worked with Windows.
    03-14-2018 12:52 PM
  16. ladydias's Avatar
    I got a Blackberry Priv after my 1520 died and, while it was nice to have access to a lot of apps, Android itself is a bloated disorganized mess that was made bearable only with the Microsoft launcher. The on-screen keyboards available (and I tried a fair few) were inferior to what I had on Win10 mobile. I also realized that I just don't care that much for apps. I kept questioning why I was expected to use up my phone's memory for apps that I would only use every once in a while, or to try out the latest fad app, or for functions that could easily be done on the web. And in the end, I just found Android to be inefficient and frustrating.

    My husband finally put me out of my misery and bought me a brand new Alcatel Idol 4S last month for $189 and - after having to exchange it once due to a nasty update bug that screwed up my speakers - I am happily using an OS that makes sense and is a pleasure to use. The apps I liked using are still here and, surprisingly, still being updated (an example is Tweet It! getting the 280 character limit for Twitter). The YouTube apps are much better because I'm not forced to sit through the ads like I had to on Android and I'm not constantly having Google stalking me and asking me about the places I visit or being slammed with useless notifications that bog my phone down. Plus, my contacts follow me everywhere instead of having to maintain two separate lists.

    To put it simply, Win10 Mobile is home and will continue to be such while I wait to see what Microsoft will do next.

    PS. Cortana received massive improvements on Win 10 while I was gone and is still worlds better on a dedicated Windows device.
    Last edited by ladydias; 03-14-2018 at 01:04 PM.
    03-14-2018 12:52 PM
  17. Devan Hammack's Avatar
    I miss the interface, the live tiles, the settings.
    Omg the settings app on my S8+ is a nightmare. Seriously can't find anything, or I find it in 3 different places.
    6 months later, its still asking me to set default apps for stuff. WTH

    I miss how email worked. Outlook on Android is garbage... or, at the very least, I haven't figured out how to make it less trash. Every few weeks, I have to reset my gmail account because it will bog down and take 15 seconds to open an email or mark it as read. And when I try to load messages from a subfolder? Total crapshoot whether or not it will work.
    I miss "hey Cortana.. remind me to.."

    But.. I can do mobile banking, I can play the 2 games I want to play, I can get all the other apps that I barely ever use that are handy when I need them.

    PWA's and Andromeda (or whatever device makes it all work) can't come fast enough.
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    03-14-2018 01:08 PM
  18. Topol's Avatar
    I really miss overall flow from w10m. The whole idea of live tiles and perfectly working folders on start screen. Also the list on right side was so powerful, just swipe and write. i have a feeling on Samsung's GS7 it's not so good. I love the phone, but I really miss that flow. Also the biggest problem with either Android or IOS is a keyboard. Why Microsoft can't make a port? It was really the best keyboard I ever used, and I tried gazilliona from Play store. Now I'm using BlackBerry keyboard but it's not the same.
    My Lumia 930 was great. I hated when camera quality degredated after upgrade to W10M, when battery life dropped after upgrades, but still I miss this phone. Now, laying in a box, waiting for me. Also, I wish Cortina was working better in Poland, even with English settings...
    03-14-2018 01:19 PM
  19. AndyCalling's Avatar
    I still use my 950XL, however I moved to WinPhone from my (only) Android buy, the popular HTC Wildfire. God it was abysmal, I miss absolutely nothing about my Android experience. Interesting to see those that went the other way often can't say the same.

    If only Ol' Nads had gone to work for Google instead of Microsoft, it could have been so different.
    03-14-2018 01:21 PM
  20. Wayne Dupree's Avatar
    I miss the Start screen, first and foremost. It's just better than what Android or iOS have to offer. I dislike static icons, and while you can change your launcher on Android, none really come close to offering the same experience you had on Windows Phone.
    Well put from the main story and the many replies since. I've been on Android since October 2016 and the most jarring part of the transition for me was (and still is to an extent) not having the single glance-ability of seeing what I wanted with a quick glance at the home screen of live tiles. I think the "live tile" concept is not well understood by those that didn't use WP in that it's not just a moving-metro-icon it's a stream of quick information that helps you decide it you need to get more info by opening an app.

    As glad as I am for the apps on Android the first thing I noticed is how dependent you are in having to go into every single app for anything. Want to see the current radar? Open the weather app. Want to see the latest news? Open the news app. Latest RSS news? Open the Feedly app. Etc. etc. Now, yes, I know there are widgets but they are nothing close to live tiles on average and there's limited support for them. The UI of Android or iPhone reminds me of that screenshot of the guy who's desktop is just covered in icons and it drives me crazy.
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    03-14-2018 01:56 PM
  21. The Curious TX's Avatar
    I have been using Android for two years. But still I miss Windows phone 8.1. I liked the design and Metro UI the most. It was really fluid, those animations were making the experience compelling. now Android is fast, really fast but not that live. Android is like far ugly out there.

    It was like most efficient OS out there, ran well in under powered hardware. In my android apps sizes are very large and their cached data quickly fills up my internal storage, whereas in WP apps were smaller and It would go fully in SD Card. plus with new trend of big phablets, I find it difficult to use my phone one handedly, but it was really well one handed operability of WP.

    that WP was rock solid as software, and in Android all my apps keep using battery and I need to force close them. as I use greenify, sometimes apps gets stuck and I have to reboot Android.

    Mostly these are my gripes with android and if google optimizes android heavily than I would like Android.
    03-14-2018 02:23 PM
  22. Maximum Attakk's Avatar
    Sadly my mobile contract has come to and end with no Windows mobile I've opted for a Sony Xperia running on Android...… less than a week in with anew phone and not excited with my new gadget, not impressed with what it can do...more missing Windows mobile, looking at my Lumia 950 with it's cracked screen and thinking had the operating system continued to be supported I would have been better off fixing it. The UI on Windows mobile was way better than my new Android, and hardware wise, even though my 950 is getting on for 2.5 yrs it's still as good and in some ways better than my new phone. Ay least now I can get some of the apps that weren't on Windows mobile..... here's a laugh... now have Sonos app but my phone will not connect to Wifi (only the guest network which cannot access Sonos system or NAS nor can it mirror to the TV and my wife's Android phone is exactly the same) Hmmmm...
    03-14-2018 03:00 PM
  23. ktcomputing's Avatar
    YES! Tried both android and ios. Hate the progman UI of android and ios! Back running my 950 as a daily driver.
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    03-14-2018 03:06 PM
  24. MosaicMarch's Avatar
    No need to be emotional here. I was a Windows Phone / Mobile supporter since WinCE days. Just three months ago I finally retired my L950 and switched to Android (Huawei Mate 10 pro). It felt strange a bit. Android has plenty of customizations, Google's apps seemed to me too basic, even childish (Default GMail app) but in few days everything settled. There are plenty of apps to choose and you can really create a mobile environment that suits all your preferences and needs. It was maybe a week later and I already become so dependant on my new mobile - it just plain simple works flawlessly. Can you imagine I haven't had not a single mobile crash / sudden shutdowns? No application even crashed on me during last 3 months! I was surprised! Even more, there is no notification i missed, no missed email, no internet browser chrashes or sluggishness, I never missed a moment for a perfect photo and all this packed with a battery that just lasts and lasts. :)
    So, do I miss Win Phone/Mobile? No, not really. They had some good ideas, and all of them was implemented poorly. Not even Live Tiles worked correctly (always wrong badge showing number of unread emails, Weather app (not) refreshing, Skype, SKYPE!!!). Microsoft actually never delivered what was promised, they never fulfilled their supporters' wishes. But I really miss third, fourth or even fifth mobile OS. Just imagine how world would look like if there are only two car manufactures...
    03-14-2018 03:38 PM
  25. caelironstaff's Avatar
    I carry my Lumia 950 XL daily along side of my ZTE axon 7
    03-14-2018 03:54 PM
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