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  1. DaveMuzikbox94's Avatar
    I've used Windows phone since 2013 and I really do miss it. I have a Galaxy s6 edge plus and using launcher 10 just to full the empty void of not using windows anymore. I also have cortana, edge, and every other Microsoft thing you could think of. Lumia was the best
    03-15-2018 09:03 PM
  2. taynjack's Avatar
    I agree. I have been running my 640XL for 2-1/2 years now. I haven't jumped yet because I just can't stand android or IPhone playing with them in the store. They both have some issues that make it hard to jump. I still get at least a day with the battery. Now if they could just fix the constant reloading of web pages in edge.
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    03-15-2018 10:27 PM
  3. mweflen's Avatar
    I miss my 950's camera. I'd say I miss the replaceable battery, but then you can't buy a genuine one, now, anyway.

    I also certainly don't miss the absolute mess that was the W10M account management system. I have three email accounts, and W10M always seemed to be forgetting the password for one of them.

    Otherwise, I don't miss anything else. I am using a Sony Xperia XZ Premium. It has a better screen with no burn-in, better battery life with no overheating, universal app coverage, and faster performance on comparable apps.

    I used to miss live tiles, but SquareHome 2 and Android Widgets have pretty much replaced them. I have Calendar and Weather tiles with realtime info, a scrollable Outlook inbox tile (that never asks me to refresh passwords), three news readers with updating tile info, and a Pictures tile that rotates between photos.

    I do agree that the dark theme of the W10M user interface was better than the mish-mash that is Android's UI. But how much time do I spend in settings? Like maybe 5 minutes per week.
    MosaicMarch and libra89 like this.
    03-16-2018 12:49 AM
  4. Bloobed's Avatar
    Not really about W10M, but I do miss the easy one-handed use of WP8(.1). The apps that were on the platform, usually conformed to it pretty well, so if it made sense for the app, it could be used one-handed.
    03-16-2018 03:47 AM
  5. Unkitjc's Avatar
    I am still using a 950 XL, and for the most part it still works well. Just a couple of months ago I had gone for a holiday where I was able to survive by only carrying this one device. The battery life, mostly due to the processor, is a bit weak, but otherwise the display feels gorgeous as ever.

    Coming back to the holiday - the 19MP camera on this is still a beast! Granted that photos in auto mode don't away work out, but I have become so used to the manual mode! With the level of detail and light I got in sunset and landscape pictures, the quality felt way above the average smartphone (as good as a point and shoot for certain). I love taking pictures, so the processing times got on my nerves a lot, but the results were worth it. Overall in the trip I ended up clicking about 1100 pictures in a span of 8 days (this count contains bad / double shots of course).

    Having wifi in my apartment meant my pictures got backed up to OneDrive daily, allowing me to clear a lot of the space (specially deleting huge video / pictures for timelapses).

    With continuum I would connect to the TV and review the pictures I took, check my emails, do a bit of expense tracking on excel, did web browsing, skype calling the family and even watched movies I had on my USB drive.

    The convenience of it all was wonderful. I have a feeling I will miss continuum when I do switch to android.. Samsung has it, but I am not a big fan of Samsung's overall software execution on phone. May be one day Google will decide to make it an OS wide feature.

    OR Andromeda will be useable as a phone and I won't have to switch to android after all

    PS - currently, the lack of many options for a big camera sensor on phones is my biggest roadblock for switching to Android. Sony is probably the only good one with a big 20MP sensor, and Oneplus with 16MP, but they both seem to leave something to be desired
    fin11 likes this.
    03-16-2018 07:42 AM
  6. Some Gadget Geek's Avatar
    So why don't Microsoft use live tiles on Android ?
    I'm using the third-party Launcher 10 on my Nokia 6. It's the closest thing to a real Windows 10 mobile phone as opposed to others which still have a WP8.1 kind of look. I've briefly tried the live tile feature for free and enjoyed it, and am looking to save enough to purchase it soon. There are some bugs in Launcher 10, such as irregularly coloured tiles, but I don't mind it at all. I just like the feeling of familiarity and I've even eschewed MSFT Launcher for it... At least, until MSFT comes up with one just like it, if it ever happens.
    03-16-2018 11:47 AM
  7. scottgx's Avatar
    I don't miss it because I'M STILL USING IT. I love my Lumia 950XL with Live Tiles! It works great!
    I have no interest in giving it up. If it breaks, I'll buy another 950XL or the HP Elite x3.
    karen simms1, fin11, nate0 and 1 others like this.
    03-16-2018 02:08 PM
  8. Zirak's Avatar
    I switched up and bought an Essential Phone. Great specs, more RAM than my Surface, and at the end of it all it's mediocre at best. I get that everyone is on the Android bandwagon, sure there are lots of apps, but my 640 was a solid work horse and if I could slap in more RAM it would be good for years more. I still use it as my travel phone.
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    03-16-2018 08:00 PM
  9. erikpritchard's Avatar
    My poor Dad only knows Windows phone mobile. The Lumia 640 was his first and only smartphone. I gave him an old Honor 5x once but he gave it back, explaining it just wasn't as good. He might have to buy an iphone to get something comparable. After paying $29.99 in the Microsoft Store he just can't understand why everything else is hundreds of dollars.

    Windows mobile was an excellent, perhaps even best-of-class mobile OS. I used a Lumia 1040 before I jumped to Android. WP mobile handled my car's Bluetooth so well. I could hands-free text and drive. With my s8 I have to drive with my knees and look down, sometimes hitting things/people on the side of the road. Seriously though, wp mobile is still better than Android in several ways. The story of how a top-notch mobile OS like this could end up in the trash heap is a soap opera authored by Microsoft...it's unbelievable.
    Jcmg62, nate0, NYCMetsPDX and 1 others like this.
    03-17-2018 11:57 AM
  10. BigBadJock's Avatar
    I switched to an Nokia 8 android phone in November after breaking the screen of my 950XL. I love the apps that I can get on Android, but by god I miss the Windows OS. Android sucks big time.
    fatclue_98 likes this.
    03-17-2018 04:44 PM
  11. Wevenhuis's Avatar
    Never left windows 10 mobile. Still using my 950XL and 1520 as daily drivers. Still going strong.
    fin11 likes this.
    03-17-2018 07:38 PM
  12. Elky64's Avatar
    Ha! 650 has 1GB Ram, so don't expect too much, although it's still an excellent phone. Try an Android with 1GB Ram and you couldn't do ****. 950 and 950xl are excellent, so is HP Elite X3. I also have the Moto 5S plus and have for three months and it's good hardware but Android has slowed heaps and still has heaps of bugs. Android is a MASSIVE down grade compared to WM!!!!!!!
    I own the 830, 650 and 950. The browsing experience on the 950 is pretty horrendous and it's got 3GB Ram, essentially no better than the other two. Overall its performance is dismal too and when compared to my other Windows Phones, kinda follows suite with Windows Mobile and its poor implementations. My LG G4, 7 months older than 950 with only one hard reset in its life (nearly 2 years ago), pretty much puts the 950 to shame, as does my BB Motion. Haven't even compared Windows Phone and both my GS7 & GS7 Edge because there'd be no comparison.

    So not sure what is wrong with your Moto 5S because from my experience there has never been any noticeable, or massive, slowdowns with my Android devices. And this is me using them for well over a year without any drastic measures like a hard reset.

    As for Android being a massive downgrade. Couldn't be further from the truth in my honest opinion especially considering WP can't even be used as a decent web browsing device as is, that aspect alone is very crippling since there's a lack of apps. Seeing the amount of WPs ending up on the chopping block along with WP users jumping ship is kind of tell tail, otherwise if they were "excellent" devices then there would be no need to do so right?
    libra89 likes this.
    03-18-2018 04:54 PM
  13. ManOfChair's Avatar
    I broke my 950 about the time MSFT gave up, so I gave up. I bought a Samsung Note 8. I can't tell you how many times I wanted to toss that thing. The hardware is great. FWIW I have Jolla Sailfish on the Sony Xperia too. And N9 Meego and ...
    Last week buddy came over with his 950XL, thinking he should do Android. I suggested a 2 month swap. He took it - sucker!

    I'm dreading when those 2 months are up.
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    03-18-2018 06:28 PM
  14. RHoudek2's Avatar
    In short, Yes I miss Windows mobile but I just switched from the Android that replaced my 950 xl to an iPhone 6s and I can say i'm glad I'm finally witha company that is intereswted in its consumers not just business users.
    03-19-2018 09:26 AM
  15. sniperboywc's Avatar
    I switched over from Windows Phone to Android this weekend. It feels like I've literally moved from living in a house to living in a small apartment.

    Things I don’t like about Android:
    1. I don’t like that I can’t change the size of the icons.
    2. I don't like how the icon pages are each separate and not one continuous page when you swipe right.
    3. I don’t like how I have hit a verify key after typing in my password to open my phone
    4. I don’t like how the apps cannot be installed on the SD card.
    5. I don’t like all the wasted space on the Start screens.
    6. I don’t like having that big search bar across the top of the screen.
    7. I don’t like having that row of icons pinned the bottom of all screens. Why do I have to keep seeing them when I swipe right?

    The only thing good about Android is being able to run any app that you want.
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    03-19-2018 10:06 AM
  16. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    I switched over from Windows Phone to Android this weekend. It feels like I've literally moved from living in a house to living in a small apartment.

    Things I don’t like about Android:
    1. I don’t like that I can’t change the size of the icons.
    2. I don't like how the icon pages are each separate and not one continuous page when you swipe right.
    3. I don’t like how I have hit a verify key after typing in my password to open my phone
    4. I don’t like how the apps cannot be installed on the SD card.
    5. I don’t like all the wasted space on the Start screens.
    6. I don’t like having that big search bar across the top of the screen.
    7. I don’t like having that row of icons pinned the bottom of all screens. Why do I have to keep seeing them when I swipe right?

    The only thing good about Android is being able to run any app that you want.
    Give it 30 days to adjust your brain without using old device.
    03-19-2018 10:13 AM
  17. azilgath's Avatar
    Not really, been using a Galaxy S9+ for a few days now, switched from my Lumia 950xl. Installed Launcher10, paid for live tile functionality and no-ads. Pretty much its like w10m except everything works.
    03-19-2018 12:44 PM
  18. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Not really, been using a Galaxy S9+ for a few days now, switched from my Lumia 950xl. Installed Launcher10, paid for live tile functionality and no-ads. Pretty much its like w10m except everything works.
    Let me know if you can pin separate email accounts on the home screen like you can on WM. The last time I tried Launcher 10 you couldn't. Yes, I paid for the upgraded version.
    03-19-2018 05:57 PM
  19. nate0's Avatar
    It's hard folks. Microsoft may never be the same in the mobile space, ever. I don't know if they plan to or not but I sure as heck want them to be. If their next attempt is a new category of a device I just hope it can fit in my pocket, send text messages, make phone calls, and use LTE 5g along with VoLTE/HD voice. I don't care if it's aimed at enterprise or not I would rather be using a device and platform that is natively familiar and beneficial to me. Android does the job but lacks easy of use big time. It makes up for that in snappiness, raw power and speed but not by much. If I was not already familiar with Android I would be pulling my hair out. I can't imagine how it is for older generations or others who've never used it.
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    03-19-2018 06:16 PM
  20. tgp's Avatar
    Let me know if you can pin separate email accounts on the home screen like you can on WM. The last time I tried Launcher 10 you couldn't. Yes, I paid for the upgraded version.
    You can do that with Gmail widgets. You can make the widgets the size of a shortcut.

    That said, you sure do have interesting smartphone requirements! It seem seems like either you formed your processes around WP/WM's capabilities, or it was tailor made for you! I never before had a desire to have multiple email shortcuts on my home screen. I guess I've moved past email for the most part.
    03-19-2018 07:05 PM
  21. fatclue_98's Avatar
    You can do that with Gmail widgets. You can make the widgets the size of a shortcut.

    That said, you sure do have interesting smartphone requirements! It seem seems like either you formed your processes around WP/WM's capabilities, or it was tailor made for you! I never before had a desire to have multiple email shortcuts on my home screen. I guess I've moved past email for the most part.
    The BlackBerry Hub allows you to pin separate accounts to your home screen but I'm just not sold on the rest of Android. I'm very reliant on email and texts so yes, my needs are not common at all.
    tgp likes this.
    03-19-2018 07:54 PM
  22. Adventurer64's Avatar
    Give it 30 days to adjust your brain without using old device.
    1, 2, 5, 6 and 7 can be mitigated by using Square Home 2 launcher. It's working rather smoothly on my LG V20. There is also additional functionality built in above and beyond W10M, like a cube tile and additional home screens. Custom icon packs as well. Lots of settings, but once you get the look and feel you want, it's great. I have the paid version and receive notifications in tiles. Finally, you can mix in widgets with the tiles.
    03-19-2018 09:46 PM
  23. Fabiana Espindola's Avatar
    Moved from an HP x3 to LG G6 three months ago. Mom managed to shatter her Lumia screen glass so I had to find a solution real quick. My carrier sold me the G6 for roughly 50 bucks so in terms of cost it was much a better deal than buying another x3. My experience with Android is a mixed bag as follows:

    + More apps, they get bug fixes and new features way earlier than on W10M.
    + Considering SD820 and SD821 are rather similar it seems Android 7 draws less battery than W10M with just a few tweaks.
    + For those who dislike Spotify there's Apple Music, Tidal and many others. RIP Groove.
    + I've recently purchased a Play-Fi wireless speaker. It doesn't work with W10M but x86 Windows, iOS and Android.
    + Automatic brightness works fine. With the x3 it simply didn't.
    + Outlook app works great as it does with W10M.

    Now... the cons:
    - Last security update dates December 5th (three months and a half ago!).
    - Notifications are messy and annoying. Really, it will take years for Android to catch up in that regard.
    - The amount of icons reminds of Symbian days. They're nowhere are productive as the live tiles.
    - Had to disable lots of apps, especially Google apps, to save battery.
    - Some apps refuse to work unless you enable certain Google services.
    - Adding OneDrive takes manual steps for mostly every app. And it's often unsupported. Only last week I figured I could load my contacts from Exchange Server.
    - Sometimes an app refuses to use data. The only fix I found is to restart the OS.
    - It takes a ton of memory. Seems more demanding than x86 Windows.
    - Apps crash more often, including background apps.
    - You're tied to Google App Store. Tried Amazon and even downloading apps and installing manually.
    - Groove isn't usable. Had issues with playing music I had already purchased and downloaded. It doesn't play FLAC or uses MicroSD. Saves files with messy names.
    - Still couldn't get OS X to browse files.

    To sum up: while I found the LG phone to be pretty good on its own I disliked Android. Will probably switch back to Windows once MS brings something new to the table.
    fin11 likes this.
    03-20-2018 10:53 PM
  24. Vijay Kumar910's Avatar
    So nearly 3 months into using an Android phone. It's a OnePlus5T. Great phone. Ok'ish operating system.

    Just pulled my Lumia 950 out of the cupboard and fired it up for old times sake.

    I really miss that OS. How it synced so perfectly with outlook, contacts, calendar, Cortana, office. Between my Surface devices and lumia phone eveything just worked seamlessely. It was a perfect harmony.

    I should stop taking it out and switching it on. I should just send it off to be recycled. It makes me too sad when I power it up :(
    i have changed to nokia 6 coz may Lumia 830 soft keys stopped working. now i want to through away my android phone and get a new windows phone missing it very badly.
    fin11 likes this.
    03-21-2018 09:29 AM
  25. Kerry2112's Avatar
    I really miss cortona intergration, whether it was my 2006 300C or 2011 Cruse she would ask to read text and emails as they arrived trully hands free driving. Android will dictate but not announce and ask if I'd like the message read. And of course the overall user interface is missed vs Android.
    There are a few apps for Android that can do this but I have found none that work as well as Cortana does on my 950XL. ReadItToMe comes closest but you really have to play around with settings to get it to work like Cortana and even then it doesn't cope well with a number of SMS coming in one after the other. I've also used Drivemode but it has problems too.
    03-21-2018 01:12 PM
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