08-26-2018 12:15 PM
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  1. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Sorry everyone if any feathers were unduly ruffled from my post. Basically. I was a massive Windows Phone fan, and if you still use it, that's fine, but there has to be a time when you step back and realise how things actually are. For me, that started when MS dropped support for MS Teams, which I used daily. Then, for my new job, they develop for Android (obviously), so no need for a Windows Phone there. So essentially I am now on Android for better or for worse.

    My abusive relationship analogy, perhaps not the best, granted, but I was just trying to say that MS don't care about those who still use Windows Phone. They really don't care about us yet people still believe that Andromeda is the next holy grail from them. I have owned nearly all MS tech and I have been burnt so many times because MS dropped the ball or simply gave up on it.

    I really want Andromeda to succeed and MS to make something lasting in the mobile space. I'm just worried it'll be another Windows Phone reboot, under a different name. Or it won't even be what we all want it to be. Instead it may be truly something niche that may not be of use to those on Windows Phones still, limiting their options of staying with MS. Or MS may just give up on it after six months.

    My point is, if you still use a Windows Phone, that's great, but what keeps you on Windows Phone may not work for others. Personally, and I'm weird, I don't see a need for having two phones with you. It's just extra clutter and distraction. I personally couldn't justify having an Android phone and a Windows phone. With the Android phone doing all the heavy lifting, I'd turn on the Windows phone to do what? Check for any updates and then turn it off again? But again, if it works for you, that's fine.

    These days we really need one device that can do everything. Hopefully MS and Andromeda can deliver that.
    06-30-2018 08:51 PM
  2. mtf1380's Avatar
    I say use what is right for you...that way you can't go wrong. what others think is of no consequence.
    07-01-2018 07:09 AM
  3. TgeekB's Avatar
    I say use what is right for you...that way you can't go wrong. what others think is of no consequence.
    Exactly this.
    07-01-2018 08:59 AM
  4. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Exactly this.
    I also agree with this.
    07-01-2018 09:13 AM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    LOL, so you took offense to the words he used. I gotcha. I was focusing more on the fact Windows phones aren’t something most of us would recommend.
    What’s a digits line? Data only?
    I take offense to any mention of anyone's choices because it's simply none of anybody's business what they use. Anyone who claims to be so smart needs to be in D.C. fixing this fustercluck instead of being condescending to other's OS choices.

    Digits is for data, SMS and voice. If you have a SIM tray on your phone, tablet or computer you can mirror everything from your phone. For incessant flippers like me it's a life saver.
    07-01-2018 06:27 PM
  6. Rob Bozzuto's Avatar
    Had the HP Elite and loved it. It has a dock and you can use a keyboard just like a laptop.
    07-01-2018 08:38 PM
  7. TgeekB's Avatar
    I take offense to any mention of anyone's choices because it's simply none of anybody's business what they use. Anyone who claims to be so smart needs to be in D.C. fixing this fustercluck instead of being condescending to other's OS choices.

    Digits is for data, SMS and voice. If you have a SIM tray on your phone, tablet or computer you can mirror everything from your phone. For incessant flippers like me it's a life saver.
    You should avoid the Internet then. Biggest provider of options on choises in the world.

    Digits could be useful in some instances. If it's cheap, why not.

    Enjoy your night. I'm at the James Taylor concert I'm between sets.
    07-01-2018 08:40 PM
  8. nate0's Avatar
    Digits could be useful in some instances. If it's cheap, why not.
    I wonder if E-sim is one of those main "instances" in the works. Digits as T-mobile calls it may be the building blocks for their e-sim network or layout.
    07-01-2018 10:05 PM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I wonder if E-sim is one of those main "instances" in the works. Digits as T-mobile calls it may be the building blocks for their e-sim network or layout.
    Digits also works on e-sims, I tried it on a Gear S2 watch. Activation was a pain however so I'm not doing that again. Funny thing is that the watch was a T-Mobile-branded S2.
    07-02-2018 08:02 AM
  10. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Had the HP Elite and loved it. It has a dock and you can use a keyboard just like a laptop.
    Same here. Great phone. I would still use this phone and not be on Android if MS hadn't dropped MS Teams on Windows Phone.
    07-02-2018 09:12 AM
  11. fatclue_98's Avatar
    So Mary Jo dropped the hammer this morning. Don't let go of the rope, the Carpathia is just a few miles away.

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/dont-e...or-maybe-ever/
    07-02-2018 11:42 AM
  12. tgp's Avatar
    the Carpathia is just a few miles away.
    OK, but didn't she have her radio shut off?
    07-02-2018 12:04 PM
  13. fatclue_98's Avatar
    OK, but didn't she have her radio shut off?
    That's why you can't let go of the rope!!
    07-02-2018 12:35 PM
  14. mtf1380's Avatar
    Damn!
    07-02-2018 01:18 PM
  15. TgeekB's Avatar
    Exactly what people are saying. No trust.
    07-02-2018 05:18 PM
  16. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Ok, so I've been slumming a little the past week or so using an old BlackBerry Torch 9810 to remember what it was like to live without notifications (except texts and emails), apps and to have a small communications-only device that could live in my shirt pocket. T-Mobile still has BIS turned on with my old Simple Choice plan so I wasn't completely shut out from email and BBM. The first thing I missed about today's phones is predictive text input. I'm a horribly slow typist and I depend on it. It's no wonder I rave about Microsoft and BlackBerry's keyboards since they're the best in the business - IMHO. The portrait slider isn't as good as I remember it and the onscreen version is a bad joke so that trip down memory lane lasted 2 days.

    Before going back to my Idol/x3 rotation I pulled the GS8+ out of the drawer and painstakingly waited for all the app updates to finish before putting in the SIM. I installed Launcher 10 to see what all the fuss was about and yeah, it looks like W10M but it's still Samsung Experience the minute you tap a "Live Tile". Outlook for Android still doesn't integrate with the phone's native calendar app, Nine is still very slow to push email compared to any other OS and the dialer app still sucks like no other. Battery life is still awesome, the FPS is still in a ridiculous position (having a case helps bigly) and the camera still kicks a$$. For now, Android remains a distant third for my tastes, back to the drawer.

    Back to Windows it is until Android gets its act together or something new comes along. The iPhone 8+ is still relegated to Digits SIM duty so I can have apps when needed like PayPal and BBM. I'm selling the x3 and keeping the Idol simply because HP didn't see fit to put the proper support for T-Mobile VoLTE and Alcatel did. My Idol is not the TMO variant but I'm sure it's the same device inside. The cameras are about the same but the Idol has superior audio. I love the big bright display on the x3 but it's not enough of a factor. I'm also keeping a Lumia 950 because........well........the camera. 'Nuff said.
    xandros9, fin11, mtf1380 and 2 others like this.
    07-11-2018 09:08 PM
  17. nate0's Avatar
    @fatclue_98
    I have found with Nine mail is that if I do not turn off Battery optimization in the app itself it delays push request/sync to the server. Maybe your issue is a bit different but take a look to make sure it is turned off if you want close to real time incoming email.
    07-13-2018 04:44 AM
  18. fatclue_98's Avatar
    @fatclue_98
    I have found with Nine mail is that if I do not turn off Battery optimization in the app itself it delays push request/sync to the server. Maybe your issue is a bit different but take a look to make sure it is turned off if you want close to real time incoming email.
    I turn off battery optimization immediately upon setting up a phone. For some reason EAS is slow on Nine.
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    07-13-2018 10:46 AM
  19. nate0's Avatar
    I turn off battery optimization immediately upon setting up a phone. For some reason EAS is slow on Nine.
    Ya I guess you are right. It is definitely not consistent no where near to Outlook on Windows 10 Mobile which is one of my favorite all time apps for windows phone.
    I remember when Outlook for Windows 10 Mobile first came with the full fledged editor for the body. I was so excited that I could highlight and change font size and color in the body email of a mobile phone mail app that I made my buddies on iOS known of this. Is funny because I have only used that feature like a dozen times maybe including the emails I sent to my buddies on iOS ;). I had always wanted that feature and the same feature for the signature but it took Windows 10 Mobile being released until that happened. The signature editor feature is finally available but only on PC.

    Nine is sometimes slow and sometimes right on time. I notice it more on time when on wifi. Then at times it inconsistently is fine on Cellular too :)
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    07-14-2018 01:52 AM
  20. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Ok, so I've been slumming a little the past week or so using an old BlackBerry Torch 9810 to remember what it was like to live without notifications (except texts and emails), apps and to have a small communications-only device that could live in my shirt pocket. T-Mobile still has BIS turned on with my old Simple Choice plan so I wasn't completely shut out from email and BBM. The first thing I missed about today's phones is predictive text input. I'm a horribly slow typist and I depend on it. It's no wonder I rave about Microsoft and BlackBerry's keyboards since they're the best in the business - IMHO. The portrait slider isn't as good as I remember it and the onscreen version is a bad joke so that trip down memory lane lasted 2 days.

    Before going back to my Idol/x3 rotation I pulled the GS8+ out of the drawer and painstakingly waited for all the app updates to finish before putting in the SIM. I installed Launcher 10 to see what all the fuss was about and yeah, it looks like W10M but it's still Samsung Experience the minute you tap a "Live Tile". Outlook for Android still doesn't integrate with the phone's native calendar app, Nine is still very slow to push email compared to any other OS and the dialer app still sucks like no other. Battery life is still awesome, the FPS is still in a ridiculous position (having a case helps bigly) and the camera still kicks a$$. For now, Android remains a distant third for my tastes, back to the drawer.

    Back to Windows it is until Android gets its act together or something new comes along. The iPhone 8+ is still relegated to Digits SIM duty so I can have apps when needed like PayPal and BBM. I'm selling the x3 and keeping the Idol simply because HP didn't see fit to put the proper support for T-Mobile VoLTE and Alcatel did. My Idol is not the TMO variant but I'm sure it's the same device inside. The cameras are about the same but the Idol has superior audio. I love the big bright display on the x3 but it's not enough of a factor. I'm also keeping a Lumia 950 because........well........the camera. 'Nuff said.
    For me, like you have inferred, I also can't stand the Samsung Android experience. However, I now have a Xiaomi phone and it has zero bloat and the overall experience is actually pretty good. However, I miss the keyboard of Windows Phone and I really liked my X3 when I had it too. Whilst my current Android phone works for me, it doesn't have the personality of the X3 that makes me enjoy using it beyond it just being a phone. That feeling is something I have found only Windows Phones to offer - the enjoyment of actually using it.
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    07-14-2018 07:52 AM
  21. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Ya I guess you are right. It is definitely not consistent no where near to Outlook on Windows 10 Mobile which is one of my favorite all time apps for windows phone.
    Outlook is the number 1 reason I use and put up with Windows for mobile devices.
    nate0 and TgeekB like this.
    07-14-2018 11:58 AM
  22. TgeekB's Avatar
    Outlook is the number 1 reason I use and put up with Windows for mobile devices.
    Let’s face it, Windows if first and foremost a software company. They do it pretty well.
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    07-14-2018 12:18 PM
  23. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Let’s face it, Windows if first and foremost a software company. They do it pretty well.
    OMG, there must be an echo in the room. Tell that to the masses, you might have a better chance getting through to them. Lord knows I haven't.
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    07-14-2018 02:52 PM
  24. TgeekB's Avatar
    OMG, there must be an echo in the room. Tell that to the masses, you might have a better chance getting through to them. Lord knows I haven't.
    There would be a lot less stress around here if everyone just accepted this. Anything beyond this is just icing on the cake.
    Everyone has to get here on their own, there’s no magic bullet.
    07-14-2018 03:02 PM
  25. Elky64's Avatar
    Let’s face it, Windows if first and foremost a software company. They do it pretty well.
    OK I'll be that rotten egg and stink up the show...

    I used to be that guy who thought Microsoft was the GURU of software and would recommend them at every turn (mostly PC). Sadly that is not the case any more (not one bit) after my experiences (still enduring) w/Windows 10 on Phone & PC. So it's going to take a lot more than one or two pieces of their software for me to keep hangin in as that alone does not equate to a whole.
    07-15-2018 07:49 PM
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