1. Byrese's Avatar
    Title is content.

    Recently I was talking with some friends about a workout group called Camp Gladiator (much like Cross Fit) and the next day I saw ads for it in my FB feed. I never goggled or researched it, all we did was talk about it. That got me thinking about security and if Microsoft listens to us and mines are data as much or worse then Goggle.
    06-27-2018 10:08 PM
  2. nate0's Avatar
    Title is content.

    Recently I was talking with some friends about a workout group called Camp Gladiator (much like Cross Fit) and the next day I saw ads for it in my FB feed. I never goggled or researched it, all we did was talk about it. That got me thinking about security and if Microsoft listens to us and mines are data as much or worse then Goggle.
    There are a couple threads that already brushed on this topic here in the forum. There is one thread in particular that is a bit deeper, but I don't remember the name of the thread. In a nutshell all companies who have access to types of your personal data or even companies who have access to your private data use it in some way. How they define what they collect as personal or private is different for each and how they define what they do with it is different for each company.
    Byrese and ven07 like this.
    06-27-2018 11:41 PM
  3. Byrese's Avatar
    There are a couple threads that already brushed on this topic here in the forum. There is one thread in particular that is a bit deeper, but I don't remember the name of the thread. In a nutshell all companies who have access to types of your personal data or even companies who have access to your private data use it in some way. How they define what they collect as personal or private is different for each and how they define what they do with it is different for each company.
    Thanks!
    06-28-2018 12:05 AM
  4. sd4f's Avatar
    It's not microsoft, rather Facebook and google.

    What I suspect that happens is that FB basically came to the conclusion that you met up with a friend and probably because your friend is searching, googling, liking, etc. the workout group, that it was probably canvassed in your discussion. After all, if you both show up in the same area, are friends on FB, and hang around at the same time for a while, it's probably safe to assume you met up.

    I doubt they use microphones to listen in on conversations purely because, and this is the creepy bit; they don't need to! With a few assumptions on human behaviour, they've probably got it covered, and just assume that you talk about it. After all, you don't notice when the ads are way off the mark and completely irrelevant to you.

    Also, if they did use microphones, I think it'd be less accurate, and chew through batteries and mobile data. This way, most of the stuff can be processed server side and your mobile data is conserved for precious targeted advertising.
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    06-28-2018 07:44 PM
  5. Byrese's Avatar
    It's not microsoft, rather Facebook and google.

    What I suspect that happens is that FB basically came to the conclusion that you met up with a friend and probably because your friend is searching, googling, liking, etc. the workout group, that it was probably canvassed in your discussion. After all, if you both show up in the same area, are friends on FB, and hang around at the same time for a while, it's probably safe to assume you met up.

    I doubt they use microphones to listen in on conversations purely because, and this is the creepy bit; they don't need to! With a few assumptions on human behaviour, they've probably got it covered, and just assume that you talk about it. After all, you don't notice when the ads are way off the mark and completely irrelevant to you.

    Also, if they did use microphones, I think it'd be less accurate, and chew through batteries and mobile data. This way, most of the stuff can be processed server side and your mobile data is conserved for precious targeted advertising.
    I don't know. I'm thinking they mics. Just yesterday I met with a friend how traveling to Portland soon. We were talking about places he should visit (since I travel there twice a year for business). This morning, in my Google feed, there was a article about Must See Places and Things to do in Portland. My trip to Portland isn't until late Oct. Creepy!
    07-06-2018 11:55 AM
  6. Lobo Technician's Avatar
    I would agree with sd4f, I doubt they use microphones, because like he said that would definitely drain battery life significantly, plus I doubt they would be willing to risk any legal ramifications that might entail.

    That's why marketing algorithms are so darn complicated, they need to get over multiple hurdles in order to remain inconspicuous in their data gathering. They understand that just turning on a mic and listening in on conversations is unacceptable in modern society, and would most likely cause an irreversible backlash on their public relations.
    07-06-2018 02:59 PM
  7. nate0's Avatar
    I would agree with sd4f, I doubt they use microphones, because like he said that would definitely drain battery life significantly, plus I doubt they would be willing to risk any legal ramifications that might entail.

    That's why marketing algorithms are so darn complicated, they need to get over multiple hurdles in order to remain inconspicuous in their data gathering. They understand that just turning on a mic and listening in on conversations is unacceptable in modern society, and would most likely cause an irreversible backlash on their public relations.
    They don't actively on their own but apps do. When you install an app it has permissions to use whatever it listed or claimed it was going to use when you installed it. Just take a peak at what apps have the ability to use and you might be surprised...

    https://www.xda-developers.com/andro...ays-listening/
    07-06-2018 06:27 PM

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