1. c8hrish's Avatar
    Recent news of truecaller stopping its services for windows 10 mobile platform raises this question inside me that has not been answered to my expectation. I mean, what is it that developers wanted that microsoft is not ready to provide? What android and iOS especially doing for that? What is microsoft's current stake?
    07-23-2018 12:16 PM
  2. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Yes, it's sad that so many developers have abandoned Windows 10 Mobile. However, the thing that is not provided to developers are users. Most people who had used Windows 10 Mobile have since switched to iOS or Android, so there is no financial reason for developers to support apps on a platform few people use. The Windows 10 Mobile user base will only continue to decline, rather than grow, since Microsoft itself is no longer providing support, other than maintenance updates.
    Pete, G4Grandad, nate0 and 3 others like this.
    07-23-2018 01:17 PM
  3. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Recent news of truecaller stopping its services for windows 10 mobile platform raises this question inside me that has not been answered to my expectation. I mean, what is it that developers wanted that microsoft is not ready to provide? What android and iOS especially doing for that? What is microsoft's current stake?
    This is a never-ending circle.

    Developers make great software that consumers want which drives hardware adoption. To make the software, developers need hardware, to make hardware you need consumers, to get consumers you actually have to care about them and the devices you sell.

    Guess which part MS fails at?

    ..yep, all. Sadly.
    07-24-2018 08:51 AM
  4. Pete's Avatar
    Microsoft failed early. It failed to identify how important the app store was in selling devices and attempted to ride the Nokia monopoly wave in creating lots of Lumias.

    By then, most consumers had been invested into the Google/Apply infrastructure and weren't going to move to a platform without their apps.

    It's like Microsoft invented the world's best horse carriage about 20 years after the automobile was invented and wondering why everyone didn't make wheels and seats for this really frikking awesome horse-cart.
    07-24-2018 09:29 AM
  5. tgp's Avatar
    It's like Microsoft invented the world's best horse carriage about 20 years after the automobile was invented and wondering why everyone didn't make wheels and seats for this really frikking awesome horse-cart.
    This is an interesting analogy. And it is disturbingly valid!
    anachrotech, Pete, ven07 and 2 others like this.
    07-24-2018 01:20 PM
  6. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Microsoft failed early. It failed to identify how important the app store was in selling devices and attempted to ride the Nokia monopoly wave in creating lots of Lumias.

    By then, most consumers had been invested into the Google/Apply infrastructure and weren't going to move to a platform without their apps.

    It's like Microsoft invented the world's best horse carriage about 20 years after the automobile was invented and wondering why everyone didn't make wheels and seats for this really frikking awesome horse-cart.
    Not quite. They made a fantastic car with useful features but they named it Edsel.
    Laura Knotek and nate0 like this.
    07-24-2018 03:07 PM
  7. darrell reimer's Avatar
    This why i think Andromeda is dead in the water...too little, way too late:(
    07-24-2018 09:44 PM
  8. ven07's Avatar
    This why i think Andromeda is dead in the water...too little, way too late:(
    If there was a device like it currently, then I'd be willing to say yea, it's too late, but we don't have anything solid yet from other competitors. A few are trying. If MS waits too long, it will probably fail. The push to move it to next year, wasn't/isn't a bad idea. Keep in mind that if MS (even worse the Surface team) launches a half-baked device, the 'tech journalists' won't be looking at the positives and the 'what could be' aspect of the device. They will bash the device so badly that your less than average Joe probably won't even take a look at it.

    Perception is key when it comes to the masses
    Last edited by ven07; 07-25-2018 at 08:13 PM.
    07-24-2018 09:51 PM
  9. RohanRonQM's Avatar
    A couple of competitors such as Samsung, Sharp, and Mitusbishi are attempting at dual display devices but are also postponing theirs' till later in 2019. Judging by who makes phone screens it might make sense why there is a delay.
    fin11 and ven07 like this.
    07-25-2018 12:16 PM
  10. naaz3003's Avatar
    Windows 10 mobile app development is not developing those apps which are required for users.Investing in new app development is important as users are waiting.
    07-27-2018 03:57 AM
  11. Dwarf_King's Avatar
    How does this sounds :Hi app developed we are gonna shut down all support in December 2019 and by the way we found it hard to understand why the world would need a third operating system for mobiles when we have IOS and Android.... Yeah now all the developers really wish to jump on board and the third part hardware venders like HP and Alcatel must have been trilled to hear those kind of comments.... In reality deciding to shut down Windows 10 mobile must have been the worst decision ever taken. In the long run. No Andromeda device will remove the need for handhold devices that can run apps and access websites on the run. Windows 10 mobile is only still useful right now because of the websites' mobile ๐Ÿ“ฑ versions and the many few stubborn app devs who still keep supporting their universal apps.
    08-11-2018 10:21 AM
  12. Dwarf_King's Avatar
    Oh and because Microsoft after all keep the system alive as well as the core apps that makes our phones useable ๐Ÿ˜€
    08-11-2018 09:22 PM
  13. anon(10409867)'s Avatar
    there is no financial reason for developers to support apps on a platform few people use.
    It's hard to believe that I am a part of world where everything is done for "financial reasons". Because it is not. There are still people out there who do things because they like it. Microsoft may have stopped supporting W10M but they still support UWP, C#, Visual Studio, ASP.Net, Azure, MS SQL Server etc and those are the things that developers care about.
    08-12-2018 03:09 AM
  14. Dwarf_King's Avatar
    Windows 10 mobile ๐Ÿ“ฑ iis supported until at least December 2019. Bug fixes and maintenance. Core apps such as Outlook and Calendar etc. are all seeing regular updates as well. The app called AppRaisin is good for checking out the updates in more details. Also for most of a smart phone user's needs a premium Windows Phone like Lumia 950 (XL), HP Elite x3 or the Alcatel Idol S4 Pro will be just fine. I personally recommend the Lumia 950 XL. If one can accept that some of the former apps used now has to be used in a Mobile Browser instead that is. I am actually finding some Mobile websites better than the apps. Pretty funny to think about. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
    Originally posted by Free-Spirit
    Originally Posted by Laura Knotek
    there is no financial reason for developers to support apps on a platform few people use.
    It's hard to believe that I am a part of world where everything is done for "financial reasons". Because it is not. There are still people out there who do things because they like it. Microsoft may have stopped supporting W10M but they still support UWP, C#, Visual Studio, ASP.Net, Azure, MS SQL Server etc and those are the things that developers care about.
    fin11 likes this.
    08-12-2018 10:16 AM

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