1. Peter Burns's Avatar
    My first windows phone was a lumia 1520 and being so old it started to get real laggy and once my mobile banking stopped working in the browser I sold it. I ended up getting a keyone which was a piece of crap and android felt like a glorified windows 95 not to mention google is just one big advertising company. Anyways found a deal on a alcatel idol s4 and it runs great with the updated specs compared to my 1520 all the apps run lighting fast and whatever update microsoft did to edge i am able to use the browser for mobile banking again.

    I dont see any reason not to continue using these phones until the updates stop, the O/S is still very likeable and i much prefer it to anything else. Especially if you get a newer high end device it runs great.

    It also never ceases to amaze me how many people see the homescreen and want to see it right away "wow, what phone is that?" etc
    12-20-2018 03:17 PM
  2. MrockNroll's Avatar
    Yes the Alcatel Idol 4s is a great phone (T-Mobile version) here. Everything except the cameras and no facial recognition login/DTTW is as good or better than my 950XL. Also runs much cooler In continueum mode.
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    12-20-2018 05:34 PM
  3. Palm_forlackofchoice's Avatar
    Running an unlocked idol 4s on Cricket for a year now. Decent phone for price. Speaker blowout on problem I have had.
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    12-20-2018 11:05 PM
  4. skald89's Avatar
    Most people i meet never knew MS had a phone or mobile OS
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    12-20-2018 11:29 PM
  5. nate0's Avatar
    Ya most who never knew of Windows Phones see the home Screen of one running Windows 10 mobile and are usually intrigued.
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    12-21-2018 12:37 AM
  6. vEEP pEEP's Avatar
    My first windows phone was a lumia 1520 and being so old it started to get real laggy and once my mobile banking stopped working in the browser I sold it. I ended up getting a keyone which was a piece of crap and android felt like a glorified windows 95 not to mention google is just one big advertising company. Anyways found a deal on a alcatel idol s4 and it runs great with the updated specs compared to my 1520 all the apps run lighting fast and whatever update microsoft did to edge i am able to use the browser for mobile banking again.

    I dont see any reason not to continue using these phones until the updates stop, the O/S is still very likeable and i much prefer it to anything else. Especially if you get a newer high end device it runs great.

    It also never ceases to amaze me how many people see the homescreen and want to see it right away "wow, what phone is that?" etc
    Does your Cortana work?
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    12-21-2018 03:29 PM
  7. naddy6969's Avatar
    I went from Windows Phones (920, Icon and 1520) to Android. Android blows. I agree with the Windows 95 comparison. It seems that primitive.

    I then moved on to Apple. I could never move back to WP now. iPhones and iPads work fine. At least for me. If you like Android, fine. Use it.

    But, for me, there is no going back to Windows phones. It’s dead, Jim. If a WP “does everything I need to do”, then clearly you aren’t doing very much.
    Last edited by naddy6969; 12-22-2018 at 12:55 AM.
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    12-22-2018 12:40 AM
  8. Dono Newcomb's Avatar
    I went from Windows Phones (920, Icon and 1520) to Android. Android blows. I agree with the Windows 95 comparison. It seems that primitive.

    I then moved on to Apple. I could never move back to WP now. iPhones and iPads work fine. At least for me. If you like Android, fine. Use it.

    But, for me, there is no going back to Windows phones. It’s dead, Jim. If a WP “does everything I need to do”, then clearly you aren’t doing very much.
    I have never been a fan of apple marketing strategies and consumer manipulation. It has always rubbed me the wrong way. It's true that they have become more subtle in the way they go about it, but they are still doing it. I would like to see a better windows phone, I honestly am not a fan of having a nerfed device when the level of technology that is available to manufacturers should have given us a fully functional x86 capable device by now. But thus far, WP imo is the lesser of all the bad junk being pushed on consumers. I am just going to use WP for as long as they work, if someone releases a fully functional device before my windows phones die, then I will buy in, but if not I am done wasting money and time hoping for someone to actually hear our requests for a useful device. Apple in my opinion burned bridges with me YEARS ago, companies like that never change, they just get more sneaky. I foresee the likelihood of a dumb phone in my future and a tablet for everything else.
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    12-23-2018 10:43 AM
  9. Peter Burns's Avatar
    My next phone will be apple until this phone no longer functions. Just exactly what am i missing app wise on other platforms? im not a teenage girl who needs snap chat and so on. Google is a NWO company I would compare google to genisys on terminator genisys (watch the scene when they talk about it being linked to everything in everyones life). Recently some chick posted having her phone near her while her man was throwing it to her and she yelled some comments about him going inside, the next day she was getting ads for birth control and other related stuff. Again big spy nwo company.
    Last edited by Peter Burns; 12-23-2018 at 07:37 PM.
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    12-23-2018 07:26 PM
  10. Peter Burns's Avatar
    and yes cortana works
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    12-23-2018 07:26 PM
  11. chefster74's Avatar
    I LOVE WINDOWS PHONES!!!! I had several WP's including 928,2-929's 2- 950xl,s and an Idol 4s. I left my 950xl in June because I needed the Liftmaster app. I hate android, but I won't go for an Ifriut. I went for a motog6, kissed and made up with Verizon, lol & put as much windows love on it as I can. now I'm thinking of getting mint sim again and a throw down number to enjoy the last days of my WP's, while keeping the g6 on as well. Just for fun. Because I can. Cheers!
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    12-25-2018 11:52 AM
  12. vEEP pEEP's Avatar
    Most people i meet never knew MS had a phone or mobile OS
    Because MS did an absolutely garbage junk crap job on marketing.

    Sadly, you will be back on Android when WP dies.
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    12-25-2018 02:44 PM
  13. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Because MS did an absolutely garbage junk crap job on marketing.

    Sadly, you will be back on Android when WP dies.
    I always find statements like this hilarious. On CrackBerry, people make the same comments about BBOS and BB10 OS as excuses why the OS failed. People are familiar with smartphone OS from the 2000s but preferred Android/IOS hardware for the app ecosystem. Microsoft and BlackBerry just didn’t provide what consumers wanted at that point. Both OS and their OEMs focused on business users and didn’t look at the consumer markets as serious or aggressively as their Android/IOS counterparts.

    Marketing itself wasn’t the problem. The lack of products and ecosystem that consumers wanted available to market is and was always the problem.
    12-25-2018 04:17 PM
  14. beman39's Avatar
    I always find statements like this hilarious. On CrackBerry, people make the same comments about BBOS and BB10 OS as excuses why the OS failed. People are familiar with smartphone OS from the 2000s but preferred Android/IOS hardware for the app ecosystem. Microsoft and BlackBerry just didn’t provide what consumers wanted at that point. Both OS and their OEMs focused on business users and didn’t look at the consumer markets as serious or aggressively as their Android/IOS counterparts.

    Marketing itself wasn’t the problem. The lack of products and ecosystem that consumers wanted available to market is and was always the problem.
    I remember people said the same thing about the surface line when it first came out, but MSFT put their heart and soul into backing the Surface line and didn't give up on it or abandon it... now look how its doing really well, same with the xbox line as well (I see advertising all over the place)... had MSFT given the same attention to their WM line and with great marketing and didn't keep changing windows versions with no backward compatibility... then WM10 would be a formidable power house today... they weren't "all in" mentality and anyone/everyone could notice that... if they did what Samsung did with all the carriers and made the same deals as Samsung did with their ADdroid phones then today there would be Windows phones in all the carriers stores... no marketing meant MOST people never knew their was a Windows phone on the market... thats what made WM phones fail... and possibly other stupid mistakes I'm missing. btw you can't keep comparing BB demise to WM phones demise... BB has always from the beginning favored the business market as that's always been their bread and butter with superior security features and OS.
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    12-25-2018 10:39 PM
  15. nate0's Avatar
    People are familiar with smartphone OS from the 2000s but preferred Android/IOS hardware for the app ecosystem. Microsoft and BlackBerry just didn’t provide what consumers wanted at that point.
    "What do you mean you can't play PoGo on a Windows Phone?!"
    12-26-2018 01:43 PM
  16. nate0's Avatar
    I remember people said the same thing about the surface line when it first came out, but MSFT put their heart and soul into backing the Surface line and didn't give up on it or abandon it... now look how its doing really well, same with the xbox line as well (I see advertising all over the place)... had MSFT given the same attention to their WM line and with great marketing and didn't keep changing windows versions with no backward compatibility... then WM10 would be a formidable power house today... they weren't "all in" mentality and anyone/everyone could notice that... if they did what Samsung did with all the carriers and made the same deals as Samsung did with their ADdroid phones then today there would be Windows phones in all the carriers stores... no marketing meant MOST people never knew their was a Windows phone on the market... thats what made WM phones fail... and possibly other stupid mistakes I'm missing. btw you can't keep comparing BB demise to WM phones demise... BB has always from the beginning favored the business market as that's always been their bread and butter with superior security features and OS.
    ^ This ^
    The truth is Microsoft went another direction with mobile entirely. Apps/Advertising, lack of development, etc etc the list goes on. So one can say basically any of the above depending on what fits them best about where Windows phones went.
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    12-26-2018 01:46 PM
  17. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    ^ This ^
    The truth is Microsoft went another direction with mobile entirely. Apps/Advertising, lack of development, etc etc the list goes on. So one can say basically any of the above depending on what fits them best about where Windows phones went.
    Except that two OS appears to be norm whether mobile or not. Developers just don’t seem to be interested supporting three or more ecosystem. Chrome OS doesn’t seem to enjoy commercial success....like windows or macOS
    12-27-2018 05:43 AM
  18. nate0's Avatar
    Except that two OS appears to be norm whether mobile or not. Developers just don’t seem to be interested supporting three or more ecosystem. Chrome OS doesn’t seem to enjoy commercial success....like windows or macOS
    The key word you used here "seems"...
    12-27-2018 12:50 PM
  19. Elky64's Avatar
    Just exactly what am i missing app wise on other platforms? im not a teenage girl who needs snap chat and so on.
    Well obviously you are not well versed in what apps on other platforms have to offer otherwise you'd know full well they aren't just for the younger generation nor related to social aspects only.
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    12-27-2018 01:26 PM
  20. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    My next phone will be apple until this phone no longer functions. Just exactly what am i missing app wise on other platforms? im not a teenage girl who needs snap chat and so on. Google is a NWO company I would compare google to genisys on terminator genisys (watch the scene when they talk about it being linked to everything in everyones life). Recently some chick posted having her phone near her while her man was throwing it to her and she yelled some comments about him going inside, the next day she was getting ads for birth control and other related stuff. Again big spy nwo company.
    I think it's great you are still using a Windows Phone. Sadly, I had to move to Android after MS decided to stop Microsoft Teams on their own hardware. These days, people just go with what the masses have and that is how things are dictated. If the masses reject you, like they did with Windows Phone, then you're finished.

    There are many reasons why Windows Phone failed. Microsoft, developers, (lack of) marketing and so on. We've all been over this tons of times. I'm not a fan of Google or Apple, but, I chose the lesser of two evils (in my opinion) and also because Android phones are cheap. I no longer pay for flagship phones, like I used to when I was on Windows Phone.

    If your Windows Phone is still meeting your needs, that's great. Sometimes it's good to be different, instead of being the same as everyone else.
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    12-31-2018 07:08 AM
  21. fat8893's Avatar
    I left Android as my daily driver back in July 2016 for Windows 10 Mobile. At that time, I managed to got myself a fully functioning Nokia Lumia 830 for just $20, honest. Now I'm currently using Microsoft Lumia 950 XL, and I see no reason to go back to Android as my daily driver. The only reason I would have Android is because of mobile entertainment (preferably gaming) and e-wallet app (which I rarely use, after all). Other than that, I'm struggling to go back to Android, even with LineageOS.
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    01-01-2019 09:48 AM
  22. fat8893's Avatar
    Recently some chick posted having her phone near her while her man was throwing it to her and she yelled some comments about him going inside, the next day she was getting ads for birth control and other related stuff. Again big spy nwo company.
    That is scary!
    01-01-2019 09:50 AM
  23. Dwarf_King's Avatar
    Having used a Lumia 950 XL and a Samsung Galaxy S8. Both are fine phones but one thing really strikes me and that is if one just need to read news with a mobile browser and uses the mobile websites instead of apps as well as some organization apps such as To do, texting, making phone calls and checking mails on the run then one really does not have to drop Windows 10 mobile since such tasks are all possible on the Windows 10 Mobile OS. However, that can all change. What happens if FB drops support for Messenger? Well one could just use the website with a laptop though. Once again those apps are for the most not super important since most of the tasks can be done through either a mobile browser or a PC browser.

    This has all become very clear as I have used both phones over like 6 months at least now. Windows 10 Mobile is therefore not a bad option for the more work oriented person.
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    01-04-2019 11:48 PM
  24. Elky64's Avatar
    Windows 10 Mobile is therefore not a bad option for the more work oriented person.
    Well this can be very subjective being dependant on one's classification of work and its requirements. I'm more work oriented and W10M cannot even come close to giving me the same experience now compared to Android. Apps (nope no web browser alternatives), ease-of-use, consistency, speed, all not even close. Now I'll admit I have never used a 950 XL, Alcatel Idol 4S, HP Elite x3, and maybe in terms of speed there'd be a boost yet pretty assured (going by my experiences) inconsistencies still abound as not much has changed in regards to OS enhancements for quite some time.

    So being work oriented I'd think weather and news would be a couple of the big ticket items used by many no. Open up MS Weather on my 950 (most current update) and my live tile essentially becomes non-functional after doing so. Launch MS News browsing a few categories, return to those previous viewed and guess what, many of picture now refuse to load. And this is where the inconsistency comes in as one never knows what they'll get in return upon each use. Don't sound like a good recipe to me for those work oriented.
    Last edited by Elky64; 01-05-2019 at 05:00 PM.
    01-05-2019 03:55 PM
  25. tgp's Avatar
    Windows 10 Mobile is therefore not a bad option for the more work oriented person.
    I think your work requirements would have to be quite narrow for this to apply. For example, if all you need is Exchange based email, then possibly so. However, most business users' usage cases extend far beyond this.

    What if you traveled frequently? Airline, hotel, and ride sharing apps are a must-have. What if you use Microsoft Teams (Skype for Business, Lync)?
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    01-05-2019 05:22 PM

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