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  1. naveenow's Avatar
    MY LAST COMMENT:
    WP 8 & WP 8.1 OR WP 8.X will be like WP 7 & WP 7.5 OR WP 7.8
    It will be dead when WP9 arrives and 1520 & 930 will be safe...
    08-22-2014 08:01 AM
  2. markyjns's Avatar
    The general consensus of opinion amongst those reasonably in the know is that W8/8.1 phones will be upgradable to WP9.

    I'm pretty sure this was near as damn it confirmed quite sometime ago but can't find the info now.

    WP7 couldn't be upgraded to 8, the 'guts' of the software the kernal etc were entirely different and were incompatible.

    WP9 has the same / same enough underlying 'guts'. I am 100% convinced that Wp8/8.1 devices will be upgradeable. But it's still just an opinion.
    b23h and three_thoughts like this.
    08-22-2014 08:05 AM
  3. RaRa85's Avatar
    All I can say is that some of these concepts have already been implemented in 8.1 and 8.1 Update 1 sp Microsoft is headed in the tight direction if they are going to eventually get to this point. The concept is very well done and beautiful but with so many gestures the learning curve will be a little steeper than previous versions of the OS. I would love to see split screen multitasking done especially with devices like the 1520. Imagine the possibilities. With everything Microsoft has done lately software wise, they have really done a great job. They just need to find a way to gain back the Me Hub integration with social media and all the hub experiences in general need to be restored to former glory. I'll have to keep my eyes on this story. Interesting. And I don't believe Microsoft can afford not to upgrade current hardware up to 9.0 and essentially force supporters to either buy new phones or choose to look elsewhere.
    Makm likes this.
    08-22-2014 08:19 AM
  4. Zulfigar's Avatar
    Yup, because microsoft never allow wp7 users to update wp8. The same thing will happen.
    Windows phone 7, it's best phone had a 1ghz single core processor and 256mb of ram. Yeah, I can see that being a limitation for Windows Phone 8, where the worst phone has a 1ghz dual-core processor and 512mb of ram. You add that to the new kernel from Windows Phone 7 to 8, and everything makes sense as to why it wasn't updated. Now, if they do come out with a Windows Phone 9, I don't see the same scenario happening, at least to the latest crop of phones, but my 920 may be getting left out, but not the x3x series and the new HTC One.
    08-22-2014 08:34 AM
  5. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    If my 1020 isn't upgradeable to 9.0, I will take my 3 Lumias back to the new bigger iPhone. If they say its hardware issue, then admit how stupid it was to not demands higher specs from manufacturers... MSFT better wise up fast
    Like iPhone gets all the updates, eh? Geez man. Apple is dropping support for a handset each year. The latest IOS 8 won't support iPhone 4, and the IOS 6,7 versions didn't have a majority of features for it.

    Anyway,I believe that the current Gen phones will be updated, each one of them, because-
    a) the kernel difference no longer exists between WP 9 and 8.
    b) they have to large base of users on Lumia 520 to ignore them completely.
    c) All current WP 8.1 phones are supported until 2017.
    d) WP is not Android, with its clumsy fragmentation issues.
    08-22-2014 08:43 AM
  6. Cryio's Avatar
    The best WP7 phones had 512 MB ram and 1.5 GHz single core CPU ...
    08-22-2014 08:44 AM
  7. Bizarro_Prime's Avatar
    because of wp7 to wp8 upgrade issues... And Bit Locker issue for Lumia DP devices cannot be solved. Only NSRT helps...
    I'm struggling to understand how the Bitlocker issue is a 100% guarantee that WP8 phones won't be upgradeable to WP9.
    There was no way to upgrade WP7 to WP8 so I don't know what upgrade issues you're referring to either.

    The reason for there being no upgrade from WP7 to WP8 has been documented many times on many websites. It just wasn't possible as WP7 was based on old software.
    Qtweeder and three_thoughts like this.
    08-22-2014 09:27 AM
  8. Torcher Death's Avatar
    While everyone else seems to only be bothered about whether WP9 is going to be upgradable or not (Course I am too...but as a L520 owner guess its too much to ask for)
    Am I the only one missing my beloved Cortana...cause I couldn't find her anywhere in that video
    08-22-2014 09:46 AM
  9. realwarder's Avatar
    windows phone 7 using windows mobile's kernel type (monolithic, while wp8 is using hybrid NT kernel, which same as windows)
    and windows phone 7 has less API, which made it allowed to use under 256MB RAM, while in windows phone 8 are different
    This is the true answer before all you start listening to those saying it will happen again.

    With 7.X to 8 there were technical reasons they couldn't do the update:
    - No secure boot on WP7.X hardware
    - OS totally different - CE v WinNT

    This time it's the same as 8.0 to 8.1. Or 8.1 to 8.1.1.

    Microsoft will upgrade users, because it's technically easy and they'd be hurting customers/image if they didn't.

    They have to because Apple does.

    At some point upgrades will stop - when hardware doesn't support an upgrade, or processor speeds don't work adequately - then the upgrades will stop. Until then they will effectively replicate Apple's always upgrade policy because anything else is death.
    08-22-2014 12:28 PM
  10. Claudio La Rosa's Avatar
    Yesterday, The verge reported that microsoft is going to reveal Windows phone 9.0 on 30th September.
    Windows Phone 9 or Windows 9?
    Windows phone should merge with RT?
    08-22-2014 01:28 PM
  11. denzilla's Avatar
    Has Microsoft commented on whether WP8 devices will be able to upgrade to WP9? We will be getting new phones in December and I sure as hell don't want to get a WP8 device if WP9 is coming out in a few months and I won't be able to upgrade.

    Microsoft needs to be real clear about this or they risk alienating people again.
    08-22-2014 06:34 PM
  12. Blu3V3nom07's Avatar
    I really wanna get a 1525 soon, and I can't wait to put WP9 on it. E3 hype train.
    08-22-2014 06:37 PM
  13. bilzkh's Avatar
    How can anyone be excited when they can't even get their act together with officially releasing Windows Phone 8.1? I know....I know...it's the carriers. Tired of hearing that. The only hope at this point is the enterprise and the low to mid range market for Microsoft. Based on what we are seeing this fall it appears they know it too but won't come out and say it. I have teenagers and a failed attempt to get one to use a Windows Phone- didn't work. Couldn't even sustain it for a year before giving in to Apple. I am a Microsoft fan, but I just don't see them ever getting significant market share, that mountain is way too high. They know it too because they already have set up camp in iOS and Android with Onedrive and Office. So can I get excited with Wp 9? Not really because I can't even see an offical version of 8.1 on my Lumia now and it was announced how many months ago?
    I get what you're saying, but, if you don't mind me asking, where do you live? Lumia Cyan seems to have rolled out to most phones, regions and carriers. Even Canada (a wasteland for Windows Phone) Cyan is widely available, i.e. my near 2-year old Lumia 920 has it.
    08-22-2014 06:44 PM
  14. ShinraCorp's Avatar
    Can't say I am since I don't even know what's going to be in it... Actually I believe they're showing off Windows 9 not Windows Phone 9 in September.
    08-22-2014 07:08 PM
  15. jailman's Avatar
    Didn't they say that wp8 is upgradable to wp9 earlier ?
    08-22-2014 07:15 PM
  16. bijak_riyandi's Avatar
    MY LAST COMMENT:
    WP 8 & WP 8.1 OR WP 8.X will be like WP 7 & WP 7.5 OR WP 7.8
    It will be dead when WP9 arrives and 1520 & 930 will be safe...
    thanks for showing how your little mind works
    08-22-2014 07:17 PM
  17. Great deal's Avatar
    Please also make the native calendar and tasks in WP 9 functional rather than the dog it is right now and I promise you that enterprise will welcome you with open arms!
    08-22-2014 07:23 PM
  18. AngryNil's Avatar
    WP8 OR WP8.1 will not be upgradable to WP9 100% SURE... IT MUST BE HAPPENING... #Business
    Yup, because microsoft never allow wp7 users to update wp8. The same thing will happen.
    Is it that hard to understand that a past event does not guarantee a future event under different circumstances? Do you go outside thinking that it is going to rain and a bird is going to crap on your head today because those events occurred yesterday?

    How is it possible to be so devoid of logical thought?
    rodan01 likes this.
    08-22-2014 08:46 PM
  19. TaichiSurface's Avatar
    I think we shouldn't hype this up. Microsoft haven't specifically announced WP9 yet, it is unclear at this point that "One Windows" they're pushing includes Windows Phone at this point.

    Let's just wait and see what they announce on Sep 30th, I highly doubt WP9 will be announced though, they probably still need time to work it out.

    Unless i'm wrong and somewhere says Windows 9 includes windows phone.
    08-22-2014 09:35 PM
  20. anon(8150199)'s Avatar
    I am 100% sure, Windows Phone 8, 8.1 OS Devices will not be upgraded or updated to Windows Phone 9 OS.
    Sources?
    08-22-2014 10:38 PM
  21. snowmutt's Avatar
    Wow. THIS thread lost it's way in a hurry. Instead of talking about if we are excited for WP 9 or not, we are discussing if we can depend on MS to upgrade our phones to it or not. All of this is funny, of course, because nothing in this even close to official. But, what the heck: I will play along. Slow news day anyways.

    -First of all, the announcement in September is for Windows 9. Or Threshold. Or Windows XP2. Or Modern Tile 01. Or whatever they settle on calling it. Overall, it is the new computer OS. And it is the important one, as Windows 8 di not exactly blow the doors off of sales. It is vital to get people excited for this and that all support for it be immediate. Enterprise companies will need to start moving off of Windows 7 devices in the next couple of years and whatever MS pushes out in Sept has to be business ready as soon as they reveal it. Fair or not, Win8 has a bad rep. This will show what direction MS is rolling and if they will keep their bread and butter multi-billion dollar consumers happy.

    -Windows Phone 9 will not be out or even hinted at until 2015. March? April? No matter. Windows 8.1 came along about November last year, WP 8.1 really came out for the general masses this past month (August. I am not counting the developer preview). Expect the same time frame.

    -As far as upgrading our devices, I totally understand those that do not think WP 8 devices will get the next OS. MS deserves this abuse and any doubts coming their way, as they have left Windows Mobile and WP7 users high and dry in the past. However, I am a optimist long after most are or even long past it being sane to be, so I will make this prediction:

    Look at your handsome looking WP. Oh, those sexy tiles!! Now, is it a quad-core, heavy on the RAM if you please device like the L1520, Icon, L930, or Samsung ATIV SE, or the new HTC ONE-style? Then yes, I believe MS will make available to you the next version of WP. Do you have a trusty but basically older device like the L920, L925, L928, L820, Samsung ATIV S or NEO, or the HTC 8X? Then my guess is that you may want to enjoy the WP 8.1 update. I feel that those devices and the budget line of WPs may not be getting it.

    The first two tidbits are true, the last is my opinion.
    08-22-2014 11:22 PM
  22. DalekSnare's Avatar
    Regarding upgradeability, the WP7 to WP8 change was completely different. It was from Win CE to NT. Do you think MS has some new OS no one's heard of that's so powerful they'll abandon NT for it on the phone? While desktops are still using NT? That doesn't make any sense. Does anyone think WP9 apps will be anything besides universal apps?
    S Vaibhav and rodan01 like this.
    08-22-2014 11:32 PM
  23. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    Regarding upgradeability, the WP7 to WP8 change was completely different. It was from Win CE to NT. Do you think MS has some new OS no one's heard of that's so powerful they'll abandon NT for it on the phone? While desktops are still using NT? That doesn't make any sense. Does anyone think WP9 apps will be anything besides universal apps?
    +10000000000000000
    08-22-2014 11:37 PM
  24. Makm's Avatar
    Well....whether i get wp9 or not, I'll be really happy to have wp8.1 update 1 in my 520.
    snowmutt likes this.
    08-23-2014 12:27 AM
  25. Makm's Avatar
    While everyone else seems to only be bothered about whether WP9 is going to be upgradable or not (Course I am too...but as a L520 owner guess its too much to ask for)
    Am I the only one missing my beloved Cortana...cause I couldn't find her anywhere in that video
    The video was made back in 2013, where there was no cortana.
    08-23-2014 12:29 AM
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