11-23-2014 12:14 PM
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  1. HelloLudger's Avatar
    I think Windows 10 is Microsoft's last chance to get a reasonable share in the mobile consumer world.
    There is one simple reason:

    With the release of the Nokia N1, it's pretty reasonable to expect a Nokia Android phone. They aren't allowed to sell it before 1.1.16, but they can probably announce it next year, just around this time of the year.

    If Microsoft fails to deliver a solid flagship with good hardware AND software, with availability before Nokia announces the phone, I fear many of their customers will go back to Nokia.
    I'm pretty sure a high percentage of WP users (geeks, those who build mind share and recommend phones to friends and family) are WP users because they followed Nokia.
    If Microsoft losses these people, I don't think they could recover. WP would probably become a niche business product, like BlackBerry.

    No hating here, only worrying. What do you think, do you come to the same conclusion? And will Microsoft be able to deliver?
    At the moment, I would say it's 50/50...
    Tom Snyder and vishwas_prabhu like this.
    11-22-2014 08:39 AM
  2. always_salil's Avatar
    I am here for windows . And will stay.
    11-22-2014 08:41 AM
  3. Bobvfr's Avatar
    As above, I am on Windows Central because it's a forum about Windows and MS products.

    I happened to buy a Nokia 1520 because I had enjoyed the OS on my wife's and kids HTC Windows OS powered phones (WP7), but I didn't buy it because it was a Nokia.

    And if I had I would have probably joined a Nokia forum rather than a Windows Phone based one.

    Don't matter what Nokia make in the future, if its got Android on it I am not interested.
    11-22-2014 08:52 AM
  4. stevemind's Avatar
    I'll be staying with Lumia , with Ms know-how the best is yet to come! Android running out of steam....and the Ms train is just starting.
    11-22-2014 09:11 AM
  5. stenson625's Avatar
    I'm here 100% because of Nokia and if they leave MS, I have no choice than to follow my most qualified tech. giant, Nokia! Waiting for Windows 10 for phone for a fate that will determine my staying with MS come 2016. Grossly waiting and calculating!
    11-22-2014 09:17 AM
  6. theefman's Avatar
    Whatever "Nokia" makes will be just another android in a sea of androids. And anyone who blindly follows a company that has already divested itself of the very product it was known for in the first place is deceiving themselves. Good luck to the "Nokia" faithful when the Chinese OEMs eat them for lunch.


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    11-22-2014 09:24 AM
  7. stenson625's Avatar
    Whatever "Nokia" makes will be just another android in a sea of androids. And anyone who blindly follows a company that has already divested itself of the very product it was known for in the first place is deceiving themselves. Good luck to the "Nokia" faithful when the Chinese OEMs eat them for lunch.


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    I don't mind since I joined them, they have never disappointed me hardware wise. So to build Android phone under Nokia is just best hardware meet great OS = Case closed...
    Iki Taba and techiez like this.
    11-22-2014 09:31 AM
  8. TLRtheory's Avatar
    I'm here for the Windows operating system. While Nokia holds a high standard for build quality in my eyes, I'm going with whatever is the prominent way to get my WP fix.

    If it didn't look like a step down from my Lumia 830, I'd be all over the Microsoft-branded Lumia 535
    11-22-2014 09:31 AM
  9. Bobvfr's Avatar
    I don't understand, Nokia is a separate company to Microsoft, they are still going and now making a tablet with Android on it.

    Several months ago Microsoft bought what was Nokia's phone making division, so from that day there was no Nokia phone maker, they still had Nokia printed on them because MS licensed the name as it would have been impossible to change in a day, but they are MS products.

    To put it bluntly if you are a fan of Nokia at all costs, what on earth are you doing here, this forum is for Windows and MS stuff even the forum had a name change from Windows Phone to Windows Central giving some clue as to the changes that have taken place.

    Time to move on I would have thought.

    Sorry about the double post, not sure how that happened
    11-22-2014 09:32 AM
  10. stenson625's Avatar
    Anyone thinking that Android is not the best OS now is dreaming. The only reason people still patronise WP OS is because of Nokia or just because they want to try something new. If at the end, nothing new that was actually new comes out, they take to their heels back to Android!
    Tom Snyder likes this.
    11-22-2014 09:37 AM
  11. hugo alberto's Avatar
    I bought a windows phone because of Nokia (I wanted the best camera and the 1020 was the best option coming from an N73, N82 and N8). if nokia becomes one manufacturer more of android, i will stay with Microsoft.
    Tom Snyder likes this.
    11-22-2014 09:38 AM
  12. stenson625's Avatar
    I don't understand, Nokia is a separate company to Microsoft, they are still going and now making a tablet with Android on it.

    Several months ago Microsoft bought what was Nokia's phone making division, so from that day there was no Nokia phone maker, they still had Nokia printed on them because MS licensed the name as it would have been impossible to change in a day, but they are MS products.

    To put it bluntly if you are a fan of Nokia at all costs, what on earth are you doing here, this forum is for Windows and MS stuff even the forum had a name change from Windows Phone to Windows Central giving some clue as to the changes that have taken place.

    Time to move on I would have thought.

    Sorry about the double post, not sure how that happened
    On the blunt note, you are probably a beta tester who just got amazed (so to speak) at Windows phone live tiles, but soon your experiment will be over as there will be nothing new other than just shiny tiles!
    I pray that this statement wouldn't be true as Windows 10 for phones could possibly be disappointing!
    11-22-2014 09:48 AM
  13. Bobvfr's Avatar
    That is my choice, and that is why I am on a Windows forum.

    If on the reverse you don't like MS products, or will follow Nokia whatever they do, it's also your choice, but what on earth are you doing on a Windows based forum.
    11-22-2014 10:05 AM
  14. anon8957882's Avatar
    I'll be staying with Lumia , with Ms know-how the best is yet to come! Android running out of steam....and the Ms train is just starting.
    Either it started long ago. Or it starts every two years. They can't (actually you can't) say "this is the beginning" everytime while working on a fix for something they screwed up. Saying that everytime is a desperate attempt to fool the customers and prevent them from changing platform.
    MikeX74 likes this.
    11-22-2014 10:11 AM
  15. Jazmac's Avatar
    I'll be the first to admit, I've come to know Nokia late in the game so it reads like, at least according to the OP, WP people are chomping at the bit to run to android powered Nokia or in other words, its Nokia no matter the OS. Do you have an opinion on why they are still here? What was the last pre-WP Nokia flagship? Anyone know?
    Tom Snyder likes this.
    11-22-2014 10:22 AM
  16. HelloLudger's Avatar
    That is my choice, and that is why I am on a Windows forum.

    If on the reverse you don't like MS products, or will follow Nokia whatever they do, it's also your choice, but what on earth are you doing on a Windows based forum.

    In case you missed it: Microsoft makes it pretty easy to stay with Nokia and with the Microsoft ecosystem.
    I can love Microsoft's services and still go with a Nokia phone.
    11-22-2014 10:25 AM
  17. anon8957882's Avatar
    I'll be the first to admit, I've come to know Nokia late in the game so it reads like, at least according to the OP, WP people are chomping at the bit to run to android powered Nokia or in other words, its Nokia no matter the OS. Do you have an opinion on why they are still here? What was the last pre-WP Nokia flagship? Anyone know?
    Maybe they do not know in the US. Europeans would know. In Asian countries like India which is a huge market for feature phones and low to mid range smartphones, there was a time when "a phone" meant Nokia. Only after the influx of cheap Android devices from Samsung and its aggressive marketing coupled with the attitude of Nokia at the time, Nokia lost its market share.

    Coming to the point, people in India still buy phones for Nokia name no matter what software it has. I, for one, am no longer mesmerized by the live tiles (used Windows 8 since its DP & WP since over a year) and can change to Android 5 (not earlier versions) device made by Nokia.

    Although it is notable that the reason people trusted Nokia is their great hardware and now all that rests in the hands of a lousy corporation like Microsoft. What a loss..
    Tom Snyder likes this.
    11-22-2014 10:37 AM
  18. raavanan's Avatar
    Hi..!

    The main reason for me to use WP is Nokia and its solid hardware,
    i loved the Symbian OS but unfortunately Nokia left that OS,
    but when i started to use windows i didn't miss Symbian,
    windows has a simple interface and the live tiles gives an awesome feeling.
    Nokia may come back with android but it will take some time for them to participate actively in the market since many OEMs are already struggling to take a place in the market.
    no idea of leaving windows, waiting for windows 10 for my lumia 1020.
    11-22-2014 10:39 AM
  19. stenson625's Avatar
    That is my choice, and that is why I am on a Windows forum.

    If on the reverse you don't like MS products, or will follow Nokia whatever they do, it's also your choice, but what on earth are you doing on a Windows based forum.
    It is simply because I am still holding a Nokia Phone running a Windows Phone OS. If there is a great alternative from Nokia now, I bet that I will be the last person here, in this forum.
    Let Nokia jump to the Android ship come 2016 with great phones and see if Windows forum will be as hot as now!
    No offences meant though!
    11-22-2014 10:41 AM
  20. Bobvfr's Avatar
    I admit it's a grey area, as there are still Lumia phones that were made by Nokia, but Nokia no longer make phones (They may in the future) all the currently produced phones even if they still say Nokia on them are produced by MS they are not Nokia's but Microsoft products.

    If you buy a 535 it will now say Microsoft, if you buy a 735/830/930 it will say Nokia but it is not built by Nokia, MS are still using the name as they still have a license to do so and it isn't possible to re-tool overnight but they are Microsoft phones.

    And the only way this is going to change is if MS do re-tool the machines to make all new phones say MS and end the confusion that seems to exist among some people, Nokia no longer have a phone division, they don't make phones any more.
    11-22-2014 10:44 AM
  21. a5cent's Avatar
    I'm here 100% because of Nokia and if they leave MS, I have no choice than to follow my most qualified tech. giant, Nokia! Waiting for Windows 10 for phone for a fate that will determine my staying with MS come 2016. Grossly waiting and calculating!


    This makes absolutely no sense at all. Zero. It's not a bunch of letters that make a product. It's the engineers, the processes, the working environment and working culture that make a product. All those things are still around, in the exact same place they've always been. Those folks that made the devices you loved are still doing their jobs, but now they are being paid by MS. That's it. If you want Nokia devices, you'll want MS' smartphone products. Those devices with the "Nokia" label on them will actually be engineered by completely different people, and produced in completely different factories.

    I don't get how people can attribute so much meaning to a bunch of letters and completely miss what is actually important.
    11-22-2014 10:44 AM
  22. Ntropy99's Avatar
    @Stenson625 On a blunt note, you seem amazed by an OS with static widgets. Each to their own. I bought a Nokia for WP. I would have purchased a HTC if they would have shown the same support and features. Other than that, the Nokia hardware is meh. Really not sure about all this Nokia sentimentality. As for Android, not hard to go to the top when your model is anti-competitive. Looking forward to the EU putting Google back on level terms. Where would MS be if the courts didn't handcuff them for years?
    RJ Priest likes this.
    11-22-2014 10:57 AM
  23. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    What was the last pre-WP Nokia flagship? Anyone know?
    **Edit** I read that backwards LMFAO....I thought you asked Last pre Nokia WP Flagship......sorry my Old eyes got me......

    As to a Nokia Flagship was the 808 Pureview that ran Symbian.......or was it the N9


    That would be the HTC HD2 WinMo 6.5, the most loved phone over at XDA forums.
    I think ( and I could be wrong) the Titan and Titan II were WP7 As was the HD7 and a WP7 HTC with a slide keyboard.

    Then they tried to copy Nokia into funky colors with the 8x and 8s but sadly stopped and switched to Android to almost go belly up, and in an effort to regain some buyers took an Android and dumped WP8 on it the M8 for Windows.

    Did I miss anything????
    11-22-2014 11:06 AM
  24. Sagar Limaye's Avatar
    Windows really needs more apps, and different varieties of them. I hope they've got something appealing for devs on windows 10. The apps and games on the store right now just don't seem enough to me.
    11-22-2014 11:17 AM
  25. CB Stuart's Avatar
    Why can Nokia do this? Didn't Microsoft buy Nokia?
    stenson625 likes this.
    11-22-2014 11:27 AM
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