01-21-2015 10:09 AM
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  1. BitPusher2600's Avatar
    The one thing at the moment that is irking the crap out of me is this name that keeps getting tossed around. Is the product still going to be known to the world as Windows Phone and the OS will have that ridiculously long new name or are they dropping the name Windows Phone name altogether?

    I remember when Windows Phone was first announced, and all kinds of people were talking about how it needed a new name because having Windows in the name was a stigma and etc etc. Back then I was a loyal BlackBerry man however so I didn't pay alot of attention to what MS was doing anyway. It seems to have worked out fine, as the name Windows Phone is by now well known and established.

    Other than diehards like most of us here, I can't see someone of any age going into a cellular store and saying "hmm, that's not an iPhone or Android, I like that Windows 10 for mobile." Or someone in public asking "what kind of phone is that" and me actually replying "This? Why it's a Windows 10 for mobile!"

    Nope and nope. Ridiculously drawn out compared to just saying "it's a Windows Phone" is it not? Am I out of line? I do know this much, on or offline at no point will I ever refer to my device as a "Windows 10 for mobile", I'm calling it my Windows Phone whether Microsoft likes it or not :)
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    01-17-2015 02:32 PM
  2. 12Danny123's Avatar
    The one thing at the moment that is irking the crap out of me is this name that keeps getting tossed around. Is the product still going to be known to the world as Windows Phone and the OS will have that ridiculously long new name or are they dropping the name Windows Phone name altogether?

    I remember when Windows Phone was first announced, and all kinds of people were talking about how it needed a new name because having Windows in the name was a stigma and etc etc. Back then I was a loyal BlackBerry man however so I didn't pay alot of attention to what MS was doing anyway. It seems to have worked out fine, as the name Windows Phone is by now well known and established.

    Other than diehards like most of us here, I can't see someone of any age going into a cellular store and saying "hmm, that's not an iPhone or Android, I like that Windows 10 for mobile." Or someone in public asking "what kind of phone is that" and me actually replying "This? Why it's a Windows 10 for mobile!"

    Nope and nope. Ridiculously drawn out compared to just saying "it's a Windows Phone" is it not? Am I out of line? I do know this much, on or offline at no point will I ever refer to my device as a "Windows 10 for mobile", I'm calling it my Windows Phone whether Microsoft likes it or not :)
    I don't think it will be known as Windows 10 for Mobile. It's internally known in Microsoft as "Windows 10 Mobile". But when people go the store. They won't say "Is that a Windows 10 for Mobile?" They will most likely say. "Is that a Windows phone". The "phone part is without the capital letter. So it's a device not a name of the OS.

    EDIT: forgot to add. Windows 10 Mobile will replace. Windows Phone AND Windows RT
    01-17-2015 02:41 PM
  3. Jason Gilbert's Avatar
    I'm calling it my Windows Phone whether Microsoft likes it or not :)
    Well, ok, but what if it's not on a phone? By all accounts my Surface 2 will be running the mobile version of Windows 10, and calling it "Windows Phone" would be silly since it doesn't make phone calls.

    I hope that they leave out "for." It's clunky and serves no purpose. It should be "Windows 10" (or maybe "Windows 10 Pro") and "Windows 10 Mobile."
    01-17-2015 02:43 PM
  4. SamJHannan's Avatar
    Similar to the above, I think they're looking to get rid of the word "phone", its unnecessary and arguably antiquated.
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    01-17-2015 02:43 PM
  5. BitPusher2600's Avatar
    Perhaps, but I find myself on the other side of that argument, that's all. It always seemed to me everyone is comfortable with short and memorable names, like saying "Android" or "Droid", "iPhone" or "BlackBerry", then running across something else and calling a "Windows 10 mobile." I just thought Windows Phone rolled off the tongue a little better.

    On the subject of Android, perhaps MS can pull off what they did in their naming, is that the idea? Example, you go into a store and there a line of tablets on display running Android. It's not Android for tablets or etc, just Android. I hope the naming schemes work out.

    Well, ok, but what if it's not on a phone?."
    Answering a question about what is in your hand is fairly easy if its a tablet or a phone. Conversely, easy if you go into a store to ask for or are simply looking at one or the other, but it's possible I'm not perceiving your point the way you mean it.
    01-17-2015 08:56 PM
  6. hidayat225's Avatar
    I think Windows 10 is okay, it just gives a sense of integration with it's other devices but at the same time confuses its new customer lol.
    01-17-2015 09:02 PM
  7. Stefan Holder's Avatar
    How about just ignoring all the rumours and just wait till Jan 21st to get facts straight from Microsoft..
    Sent from my Lumia 1320 all the way from Jupiter.
    01-18-2015 05:55 AM
  8. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    It's just Windows. So...
    Is it a Windows tablet?
    I want a Windows phone.
    I will buy you a Windows laptop.
    I like Windows on my PC.

    The way we don't have OneDrive for phones or Office for mobile or Xbox Music for tablets. It's going to be one brand in various form factors. So you only do and ask for Windows.
    Using my Halloween Lumia 930.
    01-18-2015 06:36 AM
  9. Andrew Fratkin's Avatar
    I think you're getting the device name confused with the OS name. Currently you have a Windows phone running Windows Phone 8.x. The only thing that'll change with Windows 10 is the OS name, you will still have a Windows phone. Just like you mentioned about the Surface, currently it's a Surface 2 running Windows RT 8.x, it will still be a Surface 2 when Windows 10 comes out.

    Sent from my Windows phone using Tapatalk
    01-18-2015 06:41 AM
  10. deadwrong03's Avatar
    Just rumors they haven't announced the name yet I'd rather then just name it Windows or Windows 10 since they merging PC/phone/xbox
    01-18-2015 09:27 AM
  11. Kaushik Dash's Avatar
    Just rumors they haven't announced the name yet I'd rather then just name it Windows or Windows 10 since they merging PC/phone/xbox
    Not rumours, they confirmed that Windows 10 will be the name.
    01-18-2015 10:40 AM
  12. deadwrong03's Avatar
    Not rumours, they confirmed that Windows 10 will be the name.

    I'm talking about for the phone. The os is called windows 10 we don't know what the phones will be called the windows 10 for mobile is a rumor until a official announcement
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    01-18-2015 12:11 PM
  13. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    I'm talking about for the phone. The os is called windows 10 we don't know what the phones will be called the windows 10 for mobile is a rumor until a official announcement
    Phones will be called - Windows phone. Or phones running Windows or Phones with Windows. Whatever you want to call them. The way you call Android phones meaning phones that run Android. Same way call them Windows phone meaning phones that run Windows. Because that is what the OS will be - Windows.
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    01-18-2015 01:16 PM
  14. DJCBS's Avatar
    Microsoft has been caught on LinkedIn actually calling it "Windows Mobile 10" on job offerings.

    So it's a probability that they'll bring "Windows Mobile" back.
    01-18-2015 06:02 PM
  15. 12Danny123's Avatar
    Microsoft has been caught on LinkedIn actually calling it "Windows Mobile 10" on job offerings.

    So it's a probability that they'll bring "Windows Mobile" back.
    I don't think so since. They want to unify every OS including the name. And Windows Mobile 10 is more confusing than Windows 10 Mobile.
    01-18-2015 06:24 PM
  16. DJCBS's Avatar
    I don't think so since. They want to unify every OS including the name. And Windows Mobile 10 is more confusing than Windows 10 Mobile.
    Well, that's what Microsoft has been seen using. I wash my hands from it ;)

    I personally don't really care what they call it. But Windows 10 shouldn't be it, otherwise people will expect normal Windows on the phone and it won't be, at all, the case.
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    01-18-2015 07:22 PM
  17. Charles Barnhart's Avatar
    I hope they name it Win-ten-ten mobile...and hope it's not a dog.
    01-18-2015 07:31 PM
  18. anon(5383410)'s Avatar
    I've never heard anyone say Windows Phone 8 out loud. It doesn't matter what they brand it everyone will refer to it as a Windows phone because it's a phone...with Windows on it. Look no further than Android to see that all of this is irrelevant. Motorola released a phone called Droid, Google made it out of that confusion fine.
    01-18-2015 07:36 PM
  19. spaulagain's Avatar
    Well, that's what Microsoft has been seen using. I wash my hands from it ;)

    I personally don't really care what they call it. But Windows 10 shouldn't be it, otherwise people will expect normal Windows on the phone and it won't be, at all, the case.
    I really hate that argument. There may be some truth to it, but I don't think MS should brand their product just to avoid confusing the 2% out there that don't get it.

    Within the next 5 years, almost all the apps available on Desktop will be available on all devices. Desktop will just be reserved for those niche programs like AutoCAD, etc.

    Even Adobe is beginning to port their portfolio over to ARM devices.
    01-18-2015 07:41 PM
  20. a5cent's Avatar
    What you need to know is that we'll have two OSes. One Windows desktop OS (as we've always had) and one Windows mobile OS (without the desktop, which won't be able to run Win32 based desktop software, but it will potentially run all Store apps, provided devs want their app to run on all form factors).

    What they'll call the Windows mobile OS is anyone's guess, but we'll find out in just two days. Except for the marketing angle, it's not that important. For the last few months I've been calling it W10M, but yeah, that doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

    My personal favourite is "Surface OS". The devices would then be called either "Surface phone", or "Surface tablet". The Surface Pro would retain the tablet/convertible form factor, but come with the full Windows desktop OS, which could of course also run Store apps. Unfortunately, I won't be surprised if MS sticks with a long and cumbersome name that has the word "Windows" in it somewhere.
    01-18-2015 08:01 PM
  21. etad putta's Avatar
    Lets just call it "Here". Not, "Later", or "Soon to be released" I believe it's quality and timing are the most important parts of this release.
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    01-18-2015 09:45 PM
  22. princeegli's Avatar
    It should be two names... Cause it will be 2 OS's

    Now they want to call it the same OS "company name"...that is Windows

    For example windows 10....or (for the mobile devices) windows 10 mobile

    For example...magne if they did thus all along,so that back in XP days....someone if asked "what are you running" on that laptop......people would say windows XP.....but if it was a phone....they cant say the same thing...cause its not the same

    They would say "I'm runnin windows XP mobile"

    Now if someone asked in general.....not the os,but.....hey what kinda phone you got .....
    "I got a windows phone".......then they say,oh ok....what version you runnin...."XP mobile"

    Today they will say...what kind of phone you got.."windows phone"....what version you runnin..."im still on 8.1 mobile".....or "10 mobile"

    So I think the OS its self should have two names.....windows 10,and windows 10 mobile .....theres 2 OS's,running on lots of different devices.....

    Some run the full version,and some run the mobile version

    I mean are we really going to download a 4+ gig full windows 10,just to switch to a "mobile" version...using alot less than the whom os.......no.....theres not really a reason for it
    Last edited by princeegli; 01-18-2015 at 11:27 PM.
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    01-18-2015 10:21 PM
  23. MTorskyj's Avatar
    You could easily drag Android into this conversation, because who says they own "an Android"?

    No one. You say I have an "Android phone" or "Android tablet". Also you don't say "I have a Kitkat Android but John has a Lollipop". So if people ask what type of phone you have it's still a "Windows phone". You don't name the OS you name the type of phone, so if MS name it something absurd like Windows 10 for Phones and Mobile Devices it will still be a "Windows phone".

    I hope I was clear enough with that explanation.
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    01-19-2015 03:54 AM
  24. BitPusher2600's Avatar
    That's so strange sounding to me, because "an Android", a "Droid" (usually not the actual Motorola), or Galaxy are what I hear used the most often.

    At any rate, I want to believe you are correct, I just hope MS has this all figured out in terms of marketing. I simply want to see them succeed.
    01-19-2015 07:49 AM
  25. princeegli's Avatar
    Good point....MTorskyj

    When someone asks me "what kinda phone you have".....i always say the brand of phone....like "I have a Nokia"....or my last phone I would say

    "I have a Dell Streak"......then they would ask what does it run...."its an android phone".....then rarely someone might say what version....then IDE say "gingerbread"......so yea it windows definitely should not be called "Windows Phone".....because its not a windows phone....its a Microsoft,HTC,Acer,...what ever brand....

    Only then if the say what os does it have....windows,android,apple

    Lets say for apple.....someone asks what version os on phone,they would say "What do you mean".......lol.....just kidding

    They would say "IOS 6.1" ...or..."IOS 7 or 8"....

    But I you ask an apple user on their desktop.....what version mac osx are you on....they would say ".....pause........its running a mac".......lol.....haha

    Ok they might say......"I'm on Snow Leopard"....or "Mountain Lion".....or "Mavericks"...."Yosemite"
    01-19-2015 07:56 AM
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