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  1. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Well, we've already learned that app was only a temporary, so it makes sense not a lot of resources were put into it, and also, whats wrong with it? its easily better than the original 8.0 app now..
    Yeah I know. Whenever I plan to buy new clothes I too burn my old ones and wear rags till the new ones arrive.
    Also, Stockholm syndrome is a thing :)
    02-05-2015 03:56 PM
  2. Asskickulater's Avatar
    Wait when was it said that XBM is temporary? What's going to replace it?
    The new universal xbox music app that was demoed at the wndows 10 event, basically, its being replaced by the app currently on pc's
    02-05-2015 06:08 PM
  3. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    The new universal xbox music app that was demoed at the wndows 10 event, basically, its being replaced by the app currently on pc's
    Wrong. Basically the are BOTH being replaced by a new app
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    02-06-2015 04:25 AM
  4. missionsparta's Avatar
    Wrong. Basically the are BOTH being replaced by a new app
    What app currently on PC's?
    02-06-2015 11:54 AM
  5. rhapdog's Avatar
    The Zune device was considered a flop but the software was universally revered. As for XBox music I don't think I've ever heard anyone say they want it over Zune. The best I've heard is people becoming content with it and the fact that this is the direction MS is going and they're sticking to their guns.
    You just quoted me as saying it. When I say I don't want Zune back, I mean I'll take ANYTHING else. I prefer a simple app that only plays what I have already saved on my device. I honestly don't want the online features, searching features, music downloading features, etc. I just want an MP3 player for my local collection. Which is why I use SimPlay. Not to mention SimPlay gives me choice between portrait and landscape mode. That's the only thing XBox Music is missing at this point for my own needs... landscape orientation. But that's MY preferences, and perhaps not the same as very many.

    Yeah, I do believe both apps will be replaced by the new music app in the Windows 10 TP. I'll find out as soon as Win10 for the phones is previewed.
    02-06-2015 12:01 PM
  6. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    What app currently on PC's?
    The Xbox Music app
    02-06-2015 01:13 PM
  7. missionsparta's Avatar
    You just quoted me as saying it. When I say I don't want Zune back, I mean I'll take ANYTHING else. I prefer a simple app that only plays what I have already saved on my device. I honestly don't want the online features, searching features, music downloading features, etc. I just want an MP3 player for my local collection. Which is why I use SimPlay. Not to mention SimPlay gives me choice between portrait and landscape mode. That's the only thing XBox Music is missing at this point for my own needs... landscape orientation. But that's MY preferences, and perhaps not the same as very many.

    Yeah, I do believe both apps will be replaced by the new music app in the Windows 10 TP. I'll find out as soon as Win10 for the phones is previewed.
    You just described Zune.
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    02-06-2015 03:40 PM
  8. Asskickulater's Avatar
    Wrong. Basically the are BOTH being replaced by a new app
    The never mentioned that the music app was rewritten by scratch on the PC.
    02-06-2015 10:44 PM
  9. kwill's Avatar
    I have to agree with the OP and what others have stated through this thread. I installed the preview and within a day it was back to 8.1 on my SP3. The start screen is clunky at best. Things like whenever I close metro apps, it shot me back to the desktop. When all I wanted to do was go to the start menu and launch another pinned app. Now I know, they're working on things for desktop users currently. But man, could you of screwed up tablet mode anymore with what Microsoft has done?! I normally love being on the cutting edge and trying out the new stuff to provide feedback. But that was just unbearable.
    02-07-2015 12:10 AM
  10. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    The never mentioned that the music app was rewritten by scratch on the PC.
    The app has a completely different UI, looks completely different and acts completely different and is a universal app to boot.
    Denial is not just a river in Egypt
    02-07-2015 06:07 AM
  11. missionsparta's Avatar
    The app has a completely different UI, looks completely different and acts completely different and is a universal app to boot.
    Denial is not just a river in Egypt
    Funny you mention denial, because you're in it.
    02-07-2015 06:27 AM
  12. hagjohn's Avatar
    I don't think anyone can answer that yet. Windows 10 has a "tablet mode" and I think that kind of explains the direction they are going. It's a shame.
    02-07-2015 06:41 AM
  13. missionsparta's Avatar
    I don't think anyone can answer that yet. Windows 10 has a "tablet mode" and I think that kind of explains the direction they are going. It's a shame.
    Tablet mode should have been Windows 8 Start Screen.
    02-07-2015 07:41 AM
  14. portalfocus's Avatar
    so you're "tired"?... uhmm.....
    02-07-2015 12:10 PM
  15. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Funny you mention denial, because you're in it.
    Ok that's fine. I have my reasons.
    Last edited by Ebuka Allison; 02-07-2015 at 01:17 PM.
    02-07-2015 12:58 PM
  16. Asskickulater's Avatar
    The app has a completely different UI, looks completely different and acts completely different and is a universal app to boot.
    Denial is not just a river in Egypt
    Ah yes, because, an app cant gain functionality and a different UI without the code being completely re-written from scratch right?
    02-07-2015 04:43 PM
  17. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Ah yes, because, an app cant gain functionality and a different UI without the code being completely re-written from scratch right?
    The new Windows apps were said to be new universal apps. If the old ones weren't universal, then it stands to reason that the new ones were rewritten.
    02-08-2015 06:55 AM
  18. Asskickulater's Avatar
    The new Windows apps were said to be new universal apps. If the old ones weren't universal, then it stands to reason that the new ones were rewritten.
    or its been universal the whole time, they just didnt release the WP version.

    and saying "new unversal app" doesnt mean much, microsoft calls all big updates new.
    02-08-2015 01:03 PM
  19. hagjohn's Avatar
    Tablet mode should have been Windows 8 Start Screen.
    It's ugly as sin. I prefer 8's start screen to 10's, so far. We will have to wait to see how they improve it but having places and most used make it very messy looking.
    02-08-2015 01:38 PM
  20. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    or its been universal the whole time, they just didnt release the WP version.

    and saying "new unversal app" doesnt mean much, microsoft calls all big updates new.
    ​No, the universal API is coming with 10. Logic dictates that they haven't been universal due to API changes from even the desktop 8.1 to 10.
    02-08-2015 03:34 PM
  21. Asskickulater's Avatar
    ​No, the universal API is coming with 10. Logic dictates that they haven't been universal due to API changes from even the desktop 8.1 to 10.
    What? No, the universal API has been around since 8.1 lol
    02-08-2015 04:04 PM
  22. EspHack's Avatar
    I've been wondering the same, I still want a newer +10" windows tablet for entertainment, and I DONT want OR need an intel cpu or x86 apps on it, quite the contrary, I just want a big touchscreen with a web browser and media players with 20h battery life, x86 its just a major hindrance for this scenario, I don't want a fan on my tablet, and I don't want a cheap x86 cpu struggling between performance & battery consumption/heat either, so im just gonna wait for that might surface 3 to emerge, and I hope its bigger, faster, thinner, longer lasting and has full w10 without x86 crap to shot it down
    02-08-2015 10:22 PM
  23. xandros9's Avatar
    I've been wondering the same, I still want a newer +10" windows tablet for entertainment, and I DONT want OR need an intel cpu or x86 apps on it, quite the contrary, I just want a big touchscreen with a web browser and media players with 20h battery life, x86 its just a major hindrance for this scenario, I don't want a fan on my tablet, and I don't want a cheap x86 cpu struggling between performance & battery consumption/heat either, so im just gonna wait for that might surface 3 to emerge, and I hope its bigger, faster, thinner, longer lasting and has full w10 without x86 crap to shot it down
    The current x86 Atom sounds like what you can go for. Its surprisingly efficient.
    Fanless, it can power through even some PC games. If someone told me the new Intel Atom was fanless and could play light Starcraft II games, I wouldn't have believed them. I tried it for myself and while not the best experience, it still blew me away. (a far cry from my 2008-9 Atom netbook that'll get 5 fps at most while channeling its inner leaf blower.)
    Previous gen CloverTrail Atoms aren't too bad, although not great.

    You don't have to use x86 programs, just pretend its RT and x86 will come in handy once-in-a-blue moon.

    I believe x86 hardware is better than you seem to think.
    While in general, battery life just hasn't reached that level of 20hours, I think there's some devices out there you may like. I'm not sure if it is that model or not, but the Dell Venue 11 Pro comes in an Atom model and the laptop-esque dock includes an extra battery. (main battery is swappable too)

    For better or worse, RT is gone. It has its uses back when what you said was true, but its been eclipsed by the leaps Intel made.
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    02-08-2015 11:04 PM
  24. Michael Alan Goff's Avatar
    I've been wondering the same, I still want a newer +10" windows tablet for entertainment, and I DONT want OR need an intel cpu or x86 apps on it, quite the contrary, I just want a big touchscreen with a web browser and media players with 20h battery life, x86 its just a major hindrance for this scenario, I don't want a fan on my tablet, and I don't want a cheap x86 cpu struggling between performance & battery consumption/heat either, so im just gonna wait for that might surface 3 to emerge, and I hope its bigger, faster, thinner, longer lasting and has full w10 without x86 crap to shot it down
    ​What tablet gets 20hrs of battery life?
    02-09-2015 12:04 AM
  25. tiziano27's Avatar
    For better or worse, RT is gone. It has its uses back when what you said was true, but its been eclipsed by the leaps Intel made.
    Even more, Intel is subsidizing the Atom CPUs, so they're cheaper. However, market conditions can change at any moment, Microsoft has to be ready to comeback to ARM.
    Mobile CPUs are becoming so powerful that are good enough for laptops. If ARM takes the lead Microsoft would be at disadvantage not only in the tablet market, but also in the PC market.
    Universal apps and HTML5 are neutral, the dependency on x86 could disappear fast for a lot of people. In fact, It can be argued that It doesn't exist already for most of the consumers. Legacy win32 apps could be supported through virtualization.

    Windows RT is not dead, It's in a latent state waiting for better market conditions.
    Last edited by tiziano27; 02-09-2015 at 11:07 PM.
    02-09-2015 08:12 PM
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