1. distilledoreo's Avatar
    The main problem that plagues Windows machines is bloatware. Everyone reading this is probably aware of the issue, but recently I've been seeing many people asking for pre-installed software to be eliminated by making all devices Signature Edition. OEMs will never accept this prospect (otherwise prices will probably shoot up for cheaper tablets and computers), and if OEMs won't like it, Microsoft won't like it. A compromise must then be made. What if all pre-installed programs had to be WinRT applications? Since they are sandboxed, they shouldn't affect performance of the PC, other than storage space, and they would be much safer as a result. I'm sure that if the Superfish/Lenovo panic didn't already alarm potential Windows customers, something else will eventually be much worse. I created a uservoice suggestion so you can vote for it if you think it's a good idea, and if not, perhaps you can provide constructive criticism. Either way, I don't want to be forced to reinstall Windows from scratch every time I get a new device because of stupid, annoying programs that an OEM installed.
    03-11-2015 10:53 PM
  2. Kaushik Banerjee's Avatar
    The main problem that plagues Windows machines is bloatware. Everyone reading this is probably aware of the issue, but recently I've been seeing many people asking for pre-installed software to be eliminated by making all devices Signature Edition. OEMs will never accept this prospect (otherwise prices will probably shoot up for cheaper tablets and computers), and if OEMs won't like it, Microsoft won't like it. A compromise must then be made. What if all pre-installed programs had to be WinRT applications? Since they are sandboxed, they shouldn't affect performance of the PC, other than storage space, and they would be much safer as a result. I'm sure that if the Superfish/Lenovo panic didn't already alarm potential Windows customers, something else will eventually be much worse. I created a uservoice suggestion so you can vote for it if you think it's a good idea, and if not, perhaps you can provide constructive criticism. Either way, I don't want to be forced to reinstall Windows from scratch every time I get a new device because of stupid, annoying programs that an OEM installed.
    Gave 3votes !
    03-11-2015 11:23 PM
  3. Asskickulater's Avatar
    It's a nice idea/thought, but, OEM's would throw a **** fit.
    03-13-2015 06:43 AM
  4. Pete's Avatar
    Or just buy hardware from manufacturers who don't pre-install bloatware...?
    03-13-2015 06:49 AM
  5. tgp's Avatar
    Bloatware on new PCs is a problem. We often remove at least some of it on the machines we sell. For some business customers we'll even reinstall Windows with a pure Windows disk to remove ALL of the bloatware.

    HP and Toshiba seem to have the most bloatware. Sometimes notifications from the bloatware will pop up and make customers nervous, or they'll think something is wrong with their brand new computer. That's why we try to eliminate it.
    03-13-2015 07:07 AM
  6. someone2639's Avatar
    My Lenovo Signature Edition has 3 bloatware, a mouse control panel, a Modern settings app, and a system update software. That should be enough.
    03-13-2015 07:22 AM
  7. tgp's Avatar
    My Lenovo Signature Edition has 3 bloatware, a mouse control panel, a Modern settings app, and a system update software. That should be enough.
    You forgot Superfish!
    03-13-2015 07:27 AM
  8. HeyCori's Avatar
    I always hate when OEMs include their own WiFi software. Windows can manage WiFi connections just fine without help. I imagine the software is just so the OEM can track users.
    03-13-2015 08:15 AM
  9. someone2639's Avatar
    You forgot Superfish!
    Nah Lenovo said ThinkPad's weren't affected
    03-13-2015 10:37 AM
  10. distilledoreo's Avatar
    Or just buy hardware from manufacturers who don't pre-install bloatware...?
    I do, but the general public doesn't know about anything like "Signature Edition", and that's the issue. The public's perception of Windows has never been great, and this would, in part, solve the problem.
    03-13-2015 11:16 AM

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