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  1. pericle's Avatar
    Cool it on the snide remarks, they're unwelcome on this forum. Second, cloud storage is just that, storage. It's not an app hosting service where you can work on projects that run on workstations.
    Honestly, I don't get your point. Just like omar9399 pointed out, you can access any file you want on any device, whether it's laptop, desktop, tablet or phone using any cloud sharing service. If you really want to edit your files at the destination I think using a cloud sharing service would be more convenient than hooking up your phone to a workstation.

    When I go for a client visit I would never consider going with only my phone and hoping that the client has the correct equipment for me to use my phone and also hoping that nobody else is using it at that time. All this hassle can be avoided by taking a laptop with you.
    05-22-2015 12:22 PM
  2. Jeremiah256's Avatar
    While most Westerners might not find this feature useful, developing nations might find it much more useful.
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    05-22-2015 12:28 PM
  3. pericle's Avatar
    Imagine this....

    You wake up in the morning, and you check your phone and you find an e-mail from work that you need to address. You have a laptop that consists of nothing but a keyboard, touch pad, screen and power supply. You wirelessly dock the phone that's in your pocket to this device and suddenly the same apps that are on your phone are available in front of you on a larger screen. The app UI is different on the laptop because of the available real estate. As you finish addressing the work task, a pop-up reminds you that you need to take your car to the mechanic.

    You shut down your laptop and grab your tablet, which consists of nothing but a touchscreen, a Windows and back buttons, and maybe a couple of ports here and there. You reach the mechanic and as you expected you have to wait a couple of hours for your car to get fixed up. You wirelessly dock your phone to this tablet and fire up Poki and start catching up on your missed articles.

    The two hours turn into four. You head home and you're tired. You decide you want to play a game on your TV. You wirelessly dock your phone that's in your pocket to your Windows 10-friendly TV and suddenly your UI changes to accommodate the large Plasma screen. You play your game for an hour or so.

    It's getting late, you exit the game and shut off. You hit the sack, but before you do that, you set the alarm to wake up to another beautiful morning of Continuum heaven.

    The "wirelessly" part I made up, but I don't see why docking must translate to a physical wired action.
    All your examples emphasise why I feel that continuum is not useful. You still need another device with you to do anything useful with it. The only advantage is the cost, since the laptop dock and the tablet etc. will only be shells and therefore cheaper. But nowadays you can get a good windows laptop and tablet for very low prices so how much this would be an advantage is something we would have to wait and see.
    05-22-2015 12:37 PM
  4. Don Geronimo's Avatar
    All your examples emphasise why I feel that continuum is not useful. You still need another device with you to do anything useful with it. The only advantage is the cost, since the laptop dock and the tablet etc. will only be shells and therefore cheaper. But nowadays you can get a good windows laptop and tablet for very low prices so how much this would be an advantage is something we would have to wait and see.
    It's not advantage enough that, in the future, unless you need the functionality and power of a full PC (i.e. Serious gaming, Visual Studio, Servers, etc.) you will only need to buy one good device to upgrade instead of buying three separate devices?

    Aside from new capabilities of processor, all the things Continuum would use (Miracast, Bluetooth HID, USB) are all standard and not proprietary. Upgrades in the future could keep those same accessories, with the only one thing being upgraded is a phone or small tablet.
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    05-22-2015 12:47 PM
  5. ledevelyn's Avatar
    Are you high?! Plugging your phone into any screen available (ever been in a big office? There are loads). And you get caught short and need to edit something real quick and you can just commandeer anybody's monitor really quick and do your stuff.

    Or you can pop round somebody's house and show them a presentation or whatever...

    It's just genius, ok? Nobody NEEDED a mobile phone but now we can't live without them. Nobody NEEDS Continuum, but one day it will be weird if somebody's carrying around a tablet or a laptop when they can just interface with screens and projected keyboards in every cafe and office.
    920Walker likes this.
    05-22-2015 12:52 PM
  6. sweatshopking's Avatar
    it has no use. it's a gimmick and it will fail and die. enterprise isn't going to use it, since they've pretty much standardized on iOS. It's more of a long term misreading of the market than anything.
    05-22-2015 01:23 PM
  7. dashrendar's Avatar
    Dude, that's the whole idea of Continuum. What did expect it to do? Slice bread? It's the same computer but has a UI that transforms to smartly fit the screen that connects to it.

    By the way, you didn't let me finish! So during the night, you start sleepwalking and head to your car, which has a Windows 10-friendly entertainment center. You wirelessly dock your phone to your car (while it's still in your pocket) and suddenly, the screen in your car shows a different UI that's car-friendly, safe and intuitive, and now the car has access to the following:
    SMS/MMS Messages;
    Music;
    Equalizer settings;
    Videos (in case you have kids and they want to watch Pocoyo);
    Addresses (for GPS);
    Contacts (for Hands-Free Calling).

    Hell maybe even...
    Side and rear view mirror settings;
    Seat settings;
    Type of ride setting (Normal, Economy, Sport).

    How about that?
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    05-22-2015 01:51 PM
  8. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Honestly, I don't get your point. Just like omar9399 pointed out, you can access any file you want on any device, whether it's laptop, desktop, tablet or phone using any cloud sharing service. If you really want to edit your files at the destination I think using a cloud sharing service would be more convenient than hooking up your phone to a workstation.

    When I go for a client visit I would never consider going with only my phone and hoping that the client has the correct equipment for me to use my phone and also hoping that nobody else is using it at that time. All this hassle can be avoided by taking a laptop with you.
    You're thinking about Word docs, spreadsheets and such. I'm referring to specialized programs that can't reside in a cloud server or are forbidden by company policies from being in a cloud server. There are engineering progs, estimating software, etc. that CANNOT be accessed via traditional cloud portals. Either you bring the workstation with you or voila! Continuum. This will probably be Remote Desktop's last stand.
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    05-22-2015 02:00 PM
  9. guillams's Avatar
    Does the phone comes with
    --Intel core i5/i7 5th gen processor
    --512mb flash drive
    --8gb ram
    -- AMD gpus

    No it doesn't so that's the reason why the phone can't replace the desktop/laptop nor you can use it like a desktop.

    Ten years ago, no one thought about a phone with 3gb of ram.
    So keep that in mind!
    05-22-2015 02:01 PM
  10. guillams's Avatar
    it has no use. it's a gimmick and it will fail and die. enterprise isn't going to use it, since they've pretty much standardized on iOS. It's more of a long term misreading of the market than anything.

    Get some ketchup for your words bro! You can be surprised!
    05-22-2015 02:05 PM
  11. jacobdrj's Avatar
    Mobile continuum takes us 1 step closer to mainstream single computer computing... 1 device that conforms to your needs based on your condition and location. Ultimately this will be a pendant or a ring or an implant that will output to the output and input that makes sense based on your location. But for now, its a phone. For tablets and PCs, it just optimizes Windows based on the available input, which is lacking in 8.1.
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    05-22-2015 02:10 PM
  12. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Mobile continuum takes us 1 step closer to mainstream single computer computing... 1 device that conforms to your needs based on your condition and location. Ultimately this will be a pendant or a ring or an implant that will output to the output and input that makes sense based on your location. But for now, its a phone. For tablets and PCs, it just optimizes Windows based on the available input, which is lacking in 8.1.
    Resistance is futile.
    05-22-2015 02:15 PM
  13. jacobdrj's Avatar
    Resistance is futile.
    It has been, and forever shall be, no. 1...
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    05-22-2015 02:24 PM
  14. sweatshopking's Avatar
    talk to me in a 2 years, when microsoft has abandoned all phone development and moved over to services on android and cloud deployment. Even the Windows OS is going to disappear in the next few years.
    05-22-2015 02:37 PM
  15. pericle's Avatar
    You're thinking about Word docs, spreadsheets and such. I'm referring to specialized programs that can't reside in a cloud server or are forbidden by company policies from being in a cloud server. There are engineering progs, estimating software, etc. that CANNOT be accessed via traditional cloud portals. Either you bring the workstation with you or voila! Continuum. This will probably be Remote Desktop's last stand.
    Okay that I will admit is a valid use for it, but then again, it's not really something for normal consumers, it's a special use case. Continuum will be useful for certain individuals but won't really have mass market appeal.
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    05-22-2015 02:48 PM
  16. JamesDax's Avatar
    talk to me in a 2 years, when microsoft has abandoned all phone development and moved over to services on android and cloud deployment. Even the Windows OS is going to disappear in the next few years.
    LMAO!

    Not sure if serious or just trolling.
    05-22-2015 03:24 PM
  17. sweatshopking's Avatar
    Bit of both.
    05-22-2015 03:41 PM
  18. wshwe's Avatar
    I see Continuum as a cool feature, but it will find limited usefulness in the real world. You have to remember that Continuum will only be available on certain new high-end handsets.
    05-22-2015 03:45 PM
  19. goldenpipes's Avatar
    Let's say for a moment that everyone in my history class has a windows 10 phone, with full Powerpoint, and we have to present to the class it would be very useful to just dock my phone to a screen or projector and just share it from my phone. no copying the .ppt to a thumbdrive or emailing it or anything just each person connects to the projector when its their turn.

    I feel like this will be a gamechanging feature. I cant wait to see what the future holds.
    05-22-2015 03:55 PM
  20. goldenpipes's Avatar
    Ten years ago, no one thought about a phone with 3gb of ram.
    So keep that in mind!
    hell 10 years ago 3GB of ram in a PC was like unheard of!
    05-22-2015 03:57 PM
  21. Don Geronimo's Avatar
    talk to me in a 2 years, when microsoft has abandoned all phone development and moved over to services on android and cloud deployment. Even the Windows OS is going to disappear in the next few years.
    With the understanding that this is half-sarcasm, I can see a future where that happens, not just Microsoft but all software.

    NeXTStep/Objective-C already had a concept of programs simply sending messages to each other to accomplish tasks locally or through a network. Microsoft, with an MVVM paradigm, can send input and return output from local objects or networked services without caring about how it is presented in the view end. It's hard right now, but it's already realistic that all applications could simply be dumb clients that take input and send it to a more powerful networked PaaS (whether Azure/EC2/local-server) for intensive computer crunching that returns output back to a client. Adobe has done that to provide some of its creative suite applications to ChromeOS, so that functionality is still there without (too much) care of what it's running on. Game Streaming relies on similar technology where a more powerful machine runs the game, sends audio-visual output back to the client, and takes input from the client.

    That kind of future where things become services that can be smooth and consistent is a doable reality right now, with one of the core bottlenecks being Internet speeds and stigma that there is no way to get near-metal performance unless it's running on the local device.

    I think that's also a goal Continuum is preparing for.
    05-22-2015 04:25 PM
  22. wpcautobot's Avatar
    I think the bigger picture is missed here. Continuum is a larger architecture than just phone to presentation. I think it has to do with working with a all form factors possible today. So, they created the feature set this post is about, as subset of that.
    05-22-2015 04:41 PM
  23. tgp's Avatar
    Let's say for a moment that everyone in my history class has a windows 10 phone, with full Powerpoint, and we have to present to the class it would be very useful to just dock my phone to a screen or projector and just share it from my phone. no copying the .ppt to a thumbdrive or emailing it or anything just each person connects to the projector when its their turn.

    I feel like this will be a gamechanging feature. I cant wait to see what the future holds.
    You can already do that if you have a wireless display adapter like Miracast.

    Sent from whatever device I happen to be using today using Tapatalk
    05-22-2015 04:42 PM
  24. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Okay that I will admit is a valid use for it, but then again, it's not really something for normal consumers, it's a special use case. Continuum will be useful for certain individuals but won't really have mass market appeal.
    I've been trying to say that for a few posts now. I'm glad someone finally understood what I was blabbing about.
    05-22-2015 04:55 PM
  25. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Let's say for a moment that everyone in my history class has a windows 10 phone, with full Powerpoint, and we have to present to the class it would be very useful to just dock my phone to a screen or projector and just share it from my phone. no copying the .ppt to a thumbdrive or emailing it or anything just each person connects to the projector when its their turn.

    I feel like this will be a gamechanging feature. I cant wait to see what the future holds.
    Thank you for recognizing an obvious benefit. Some have stated the case for using the cloud which is already in widespread use. My issue with that is the inherent security risk of logging on to my account on someone else's computer. I imagine an IT manager would scream if some schmuck compromised a login password on a foreign device.
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    05-22-2015 05:00 PM
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