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  1. colinkiama's Avatar
    05-29-2015 01:27 PM
  2. neo158's Avatar
    Yet Xbox Live functions across Phone, PC, Tablet and Games Console. Play Games only functions across Android Phones and Tablets.
    920Walker likes this.
    05-29-2015 02:07 PM
  3. colinkiama's Avatar
    Yet Xbox Live functions across Phone, PC, Tablet and Games Console. Play Games only functions across Android Phones and Tablets.
    It's also on android tv boxes and even on chromecast too.
    Last edited by colinkiama; 05-30-2015 at 10:30 AM.
    05-30-2015 02:52 AM
  4. neo158's Avatar
    And android tv boxes. Even on chromecast too
    Why would anyone want to play Mobile Games on a TV?

    The point is that with Xbox Live it's the framework that's cross platform and not necessarily the games.
    920Walker likes this.
    05-30-2015 04:24 AM
  5. excalibur1814's Avatar
    05-30-2015 06:23 AM
  6. colinkiama's Avatar
    Why would anyone want to play Mobile Games on a TV?

    The point is that with Xbox Live it's the framework that's cross platform and not necessarily the games.
    But the thing is the games aren't made to be mobile anymore. They are made to use the tv and phone simultaneously. Imagine a quiz game that use your phone to answer or a phones being used as a game controller while the T.V is the main screen for the racing game. Technology has come a long way. You shouldn't use the term 'mobile game' so lightly. Especially when the gap between them and console games is narrowing.
    FinancialP and D M C like this.
    05-30-2015 10:34 AM
  7. neo158's Avatar
    But the thing is the games aren't made to be mobile anymore. They are made to use the tv and phone simultaneously. Imagine a quiz game that use your phone to answer or a phones being used as a game controller while the T.V is the main screen for the racing game. Technology has come a long way. You shouldn't use the term 'mobile game' so lightly. Especially when the gap between them and console games is narrowing.
    OK, why would you want to play a casual game that's made for mobile on your TV screen?

    What you're saying would only really apply if you could run Halo: MCC on your phone, however that's never going to happen!!!!
    920Walker likes this.
    05-30-2015 11:46 AM
  8. cool8man's Avatar
    I don't have time to watch a 40-minute Android game development video. Can someone summarize what about this you think is better than Xbox Live so we can have an actual discussion about whatever this Google thing is.
    920Walker and neo158 like this.
    05-31-2015 12:48 PM
  9. colinkiama's Avatar
    I don't have time to watch a 40-minute Android game development video. Can someone summarize what about this you think is better than Xbox Live so we can have an actual discussion about whatever this Google thing is.
    Android play games service - Any developer has access to them, openly part of the android studio IDE. Which means that developers can easily add leaderboards to their accounts which compare scores with other players using google services and all developers can use achievements to give the player an incentive so that they can keep coming back to the game. Google even provides google cloud services with google play to allow cloud saves so that users do not need to start all over again if developers don't use their own cloud saving solution. Google even provides analytics to track where the user spends time in their game so that developers can improve those areas in the game where the user doesn't interact with them with updates. His also help developers know whether IAPs are effective where they have applied them in the game.

    On the other hand, xbox live games require a long jarring certification process. This makes it hard for developers to integrate xbox live into their games which can greatly improve the players engagement with leaderboards and achievements. Xbox live does have gamer points which accumulate depending on how many achievements a player has however google have an even better implementation, achievements on google play earn exp which accumulates eventually levelling up an account. This is usually shown with a notification. Levels give a more rpg element and gives players a goal to reach whereas gamerpoints just accumulate. Players just get gamerooints for the sake of making it high. Microsoft does provide OneDrive cloud saves but they haven't been widely used in games in windows phone since Microsoft rarely even talk about the feature or even mention it anymore whereas with google, the cloud saves are part of google play services package which is why most games on android have implemented this feature. Even though xbox live is available across pc, tablet and phones, you aren't able to cross play with the devices , even with windows 10, they didn't say the feature is coming with mobile devices. On the other hand android is running on phones, tablets and TV's. No matter what device you are using, anyone can play with each other. There are less than 200 xbox live games on windows phone but there are countless games on android using google play.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    05-31-2015 04:50 PM
  10. colinkiama's Avatar
    I don't have time to watch a 40-minute Android game development video. Can someone summarize what about this you think is better than Xbox Live so we can have an actual discussion about whatever this Google thing is.
    Even though Microsoft says the certification process increases the quality of games , it isn't true since games on android are free to use google play. When developers use the play services in their games, they have to tweak their game so that they work with the services that are already available. Whereas with windows phone, probably 90% of the games don't use xbox live services, most of the games don't really have anything special to keep the user coming back to the game. These games are the ones that you play once and uninstall, never to be seen again. Some use facebook API'S for leaderboards but they are still missing out on achievements that can be used improve the players gamers score. This is why google play games > xbox live (on windows)
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    05-31-2015 04:56 PM
  11. TrueMetalGeek's Avatar
    Yeah but Android based operating systems can't hold a candle to the PC or an X-BOX.
    Not even in the same realm.

    This will likely flop like Google Chrome book. What a JOKE that was.
    06-01-2015 09:10 PM
  12. TrueMetalGeek's Avatar
    This was also posted in the wrong forum section, btw.
    06-01-2015 09:10 PM
  13. chmun77's Avatar
    Know what? I can sync my Angry Bird Epic game progress currently across my Nexus 7 and Note 4 via Google Play, but I cannot do that on my desktop and my 1520. This alone is a score for Android.
    D M C, RobbieRobski and colinkiama like this.
    06-01-2015 09:17 PM
  14. sinime's Avatar
    OK, why would you want to play a casual game that's made for mobile on your TV screen?

    What you're saying would only really apply if you could run Halo: MCC on your phone, however that's never going to happen!!!!
    Ah, Xbox One streaming to Windows 10... It's not a far stretch to be able to stream to Windows 10 Mobile.

    Know what? I can sync my Angry Bird Epic game progress currently across my Nexus 7 and Note 4 via Google Play, but I cannot do that on my desktop and my 1520. This alone is a score for Android.
    Just because Rovio doesn't enable it... many games can and do sync across. Skulls of the Shogun, Halo, Bingo, etc...
    RobbieRobski likes this.
    06-01-2015 09:24 PM
  15. colinkiama's Avatar
    Ah, Xbox One streaming to Windows 10... It's not a far stretch to be able to stream to Windows 10 Mobile.



    Just because Rovio doesn't enable it... many games can and do sync across. Skulls of the Shogun, Halo, Bingo, etc...
    But the majority aren't syncing progress between devices.
    06-02-2015 01:35 AM
  16. colinkiama's Avatar
    Yeah but Android based operating systems can't hold a candle to the PC or an X-BOX.
    Not even in the same realm.

    This will likely flop like Google Chrome book. What a JOKE that was.
    This has been around for years
    06-02-2015 01:36 AM
  17. colinkiama's Avatar
    OK, why would you want to play a casual game that's made for mobile on your TV screen?

    What you're saying would only really apply if you could run Halo: MCC on your phone, however that's never going to happen!!!!
    Maybe that's not coming yet you have modern combat 5 and nova 3 to stream. They definitely aren't casual games like you said.
    Visa Declined likes this.
    06-02-2015 01:37 AM
  18. alexander0311's Avatar
    OP, you seem a little too founded on google. then why not going to use THEIR services? i wont argue, some things are better done by MS some are better done by Google. thats it. but one thing im really annoyed with: everyone being allowed to use the clone of xbox live made by google is a good thing? nope. android is trash. the reason is trash is because its TOO OBSESSED WITH OPENESS. some things should require certification in this digital word. it seems to me google doesnt get that. they and their store are trash too. the ONLY relevant store in this world is App Store, if we are talking about app stores, but thats another story.
    06-02-2015 02:15 AM
  19. D M C's Avatar
    OP, you seem a little too founded on google. then why not going to use THEIR services? i wont argue, some things are better done by MS some are better done by Google. thats it. but one thing im really annoyed with: everyone being allowed to use the clone of xbox live made by google is a good thing? nope. android is trash. the reason is trash is because its TOO OBSESSED WITH OPENESS. some things should require certification in this digital word. it seems to me google doesnt get that. they and their store are trash too. the ONLY relevant store in this world is App Store, if we are talking about app stores, but thats another story.
    Android is trash and billions of users who are using it are also trash.
    How stupid of them using Android.

    Where as WP is a legendary OS developed by mighty MS.
    Every WP user is like Albert Einstein who made very intelligent decision choosing WP.
    Rest of world is bunch of stupid who doesn't know the worth WP.
    colinkiama and cbobb123 like this.
    06-02-2015 02:31 AM
  20. Pete's Avatar
    Can we stay on topic here? The world is full of Android/WP/IOS haters & baiters already.
    06-02-2015 02:36 AM
  21. Laurence_Leong's Avatar
    Well, windows central are getting more extremist and OSist....
    I only use wp but notice some apps in androids(my friends phone) is better than in wp (I guess because the code is written for iOS and Android at the first place)

    Well, buddy..i got no hate to android but no love to them (other than Android manufacturers offer high spec yet low cost device)
    People using iOS/android probably would say the same thing to you, windows phone users are trash...

    So,chill down bro...the world can live with multiple OS
    tgp likes this.
    06-02-2015 02:40 AM
  22. Visa Declined's Avatar
    they and their store are trash too. the ONLY relevant store in this world is App Store
    The App Store is indeed the best store, especially for games, but Google Play is pretty awesome as well. Lets be honest here, Google Play smokes the Windows Phone store in almost every way possible.
    colinkiama likes this.
    06-02-2015 03:06 AM
  23. alexander0311's Avatar
    Android is trash and billions of users who are using it are also trash.
    How stupid of them using Android.

    Where as WP is a legendary OS developed by mighty MS.
    Every WP user is like Albert Einstein who made very intelligent decision choosing WP.
    Rest of world is bunch of stupid who doesn't know the worth WP.
    are you having some issues or something? is there any word on how wp is the best in my comment? i dont thinks so. and by the way, if you were thinking a little more, you'll understand that a high number of users doesnt mean a PERFECT platform, AND that there are numerous factors that can drive a high number of users, not only the higher quality (which usually is more expensive too and also quality is not a good word to use in the same sentece with android).

    in the end, im not a hater. actually unlike most of the guys here, i still use google services, for example. im just tired to see people posting/talking/etc and only thinking AFTER.

    about "trash". trash was used for things like milions of trash fart apps which google still use to brag about their store. is it google play better than wp store, yes. is it a good store? given that is full of crappy apps, malwares and uncertified apps, nope, is NOT a good store.
    i never said that trash was used for android users. read again my comment maybe..
    Laurence_Leong likes this.
    06-02-2015 03:53 AM
  24. D M C's Avatar
    are you having some issues or something? is there any word on how wp is the best in my comment? i dont thinks so. and by the way, if you were thinking a little more, you'll understand that a high number of users doesnt mean a PERFECT platform, AND that there are numerous factors that can drive a high number of users, not only the higher quality (which usually is more expensive too and also quality is not a good word to use in the same sentece with android).

    in the end, im not a hater. actually unlike most of the guys here, i still use google services, for example. im just tired to see people posting/talking/etc and only thinking AFTER.

    about "trash". trash was used for things like milions of trash fart apps which google still use to brag about their store. is it google play better than wp store, yes. is it a good store? given that is full of crappy apps, malwares and uncertified apps, nope, is NOT a good store.
    i never said that trash was used for android users. read again my comment maybe..
    Android is trash -From a guy who say I am not Android hater.

    Anyway lets discuss it

    You said number of user doesn't make perfect OS.
    So, what does make a perfect platform?
    Less users ?

    All OS offer different experiences and it's depends on you what experience you like.
    Just because you didn't like it make that OS trash ?

    About Store.
    You know their are also many fake apps in WP store too and if accidentally you bought it then whose fault is that?
    MS or you ?
    Another example
    You know Fruit Ninja game. It's paid cracked version was available for free by another developer. And MS didn't realize it until many users reported this.
    Who fault is here. MS ?


    And how many millions app available on Android that you are saying millions apps are trash and malwares?

    How many malware are reported this year in play store?
    colinkiama likes this.
    06-02-2015 04:57 AM
  25. alexander0311's Avatar
    Android is trash -From a guy who say I am not Android hater.

    Anyway lets discuss it

    You said number of user doesn't make perfect OS.
    So, what does make a perfect platform?
    Less users ?

    All OS offer different experiences and it's depends on you what experience you like.
    Just because you didn't like it make that OS trash ?

    About Store.
    You know their are also many fake apps in WP store too and if accidentally you bought it then whose fault is that?
    MS or you ?
    Another example
    You know Fruit Ninja game. It's paid cracked version was available for free by another developer. And MS didn't realize it until many users reported this.
    Who fault is here. MS ?


    And how many millions app available on Android that you are saying millions apps are trash and malwares?

    How many malware are reported this year in play store?
    first, talking about the OS itself, and its quality, number of users are irrelevant in my opinion. there are other things that make the OS, as a piece of software, a good one or a bad one. dont you agree? i could go deeper here but i think its not the case.
    as for the high number of users....lets first remember why android is so used. was the only alternative to the expensive ios smartphone os at the time, and came with many OEMs not only with one, as for ios' case. if wp was in its place then...hell...if firefox os was in its place then, it would be a strong posiblity to have firefox os as the mobile os ruller now.

    secondly, about the store....again...where did i say that wstore si better? actually i DID say that only relevant store out there is app store. see?
    and if you said about numbers again...whats more important, 1b apps, half malware, fakes, rip-offs, fart apps, and "so popular" walkthroughs? ore half a bil, with only a third of those, plus all of them certified so no viruses or stupid code?

    finally, android still had, has, and will have some good points. speaking of future, look at the google now on tap. so is not a completely trah os. but honestly, 80% of times android rule a domain only because of the numbers, not because of quality, inovation or anything.
    06-02-2015 11:36 AM
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