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  1. L Beezy's Avatar
    Although helpful to an extent, I believe that this "notification" should not have been placed in a Windows Update and placed as recommended. At least explain exactly that KB3035583 would allow for notifying us about reserving W10. Like the OP has mentioned, it's more like adware from Microsoft via KB3035583 . You are, however, not forced at all to reserving the W10 update at all other than it being sneaky advertising on MS's part.
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    06-03-2015 01:04 AM
  2. Jazmac's Avatar
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    06-03-2015 02:21 AM
  3. djeire84's Avatar
    Oh lordy!!
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    06-03-2015 02:22 AM
  4. areithropos's Avatar
    I have to agree with the OP on this one. I wouldn't have minded if Microsoft had just included an option for people to click they don't want to upgrade and the icon just goes away. In this case the icon will stay there permanently unless you uninstall the update, which most people will not know how to do, which is obviously Microsoft's intention.
    The icon stays there even when you reserve your upgrade; it is no clever solution for sure and evidently annoys some people but this is by far not so interesting to justify this uproar.

    For Microsoft this transition is seemingly as important as a Windows Update which would also put an icon into the system tray until I install the updates.
    Maybe this icon (a component of the "Get Windows 10" app as Microsoft is calling it) vanishes after 29 of July but stays there until then as a daily reminder of this important transition.
    06-03-2015 02:46 AM
  5. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    FFS, REALLY?

    I'm all for having the occasional whinge but this is simply ridiculous.

    I can't believe this thread has made it to 3 pages...
    06-03-2015 03:02 AM
  6. mj0's Avatar
    FFS, REALLY?

    I'm all for having the occasional whinge but this is simply ridiculous.

    I can't believe this thread has made it to 3 pages...
    You can partly blaim the hamburger menu trolls who have captured this thread and keep spamming it with their uncalled-for opinions nobody cares about.
    06-03-2015 03:32 AM
  7. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    You can partly blaim the hamburger menu trolls who have captured this thread and keep spamming it with their uncalled-for opinions nobody cares about.
    The OP who started this thread is someone who's constantly complained about W10 as well. I guess it goes hand and hand.
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    06-03-2015 03:36 AM
  8. excalibur1814's Avatar
    I have pop-up blocker turned on, all the web safety features that come with Windows, Windows Defender and Windows firewall turned on, and STILL this adware sneaks on to my PC? Have MS gone the Lenovo route? It's this kind of approach, forcing W10 on people, that makes me annoyed about Win10 and the general 'lack of choice' direction it's going in. If you really and truly feel you need to resort to adware to get people to take up W10, Microsoft, then what's the harm in adding a 'No thank you, please bog off and stop pestering me with ads' option, hmmm? Or at least allow Windows Defender to clean it out. It's supposed to be able to remove adware, and it can't even find the stuff Microsoft's written? How poor must Defender be at finding adware that's actually trying to get around it?

    I've uninstalled the darn thing of course. I'm not getting forced into a reservation for anyone. My choice, if you get it right at some point MS. Not before, and looking at it right now not for some time. I don't appreciate your attempts to strong-arm me MS. It feels very Google.
    Don't ever buy an Apple device or Android then!
    06-03-2015 03:37 AM
  9. excalibur1814's Avatar
    Step 1: STOP POSTING and this thread will vanish and the OP will have to think of something new
    06-03-2015 03:38 AM
  10. excalibur1814's Avatar
    How to cancel a reservation

    First open the 'Get Windows 10' app from you the Notification Area. Next click the hamburger menu button and select 'View Confirmation' under the ‘Getting the upgrade section.’ Next, click ‘Cancel reservation.’ Then click the option to confirm your choice.
    06-03-2015 03:41 AM
  11. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Step 1: STOP POSTING and this thread will vanish and the OP will have to think of something new
    Yes, a new complaint about some small issue... like most of their complaints...
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    06-03-2015 03:42 AM
  12. Conan143's Avatar
    Users who got the update and want to remove it << Users who didn't get the notification and desperately trying to get their PC reserved.
    You are in the first category and it has a simple solution which leads to just uninstall the update...But on the other hand users who didn't get the notification has to follow some steps in order to get the notification...even if they did the follow the steps correctly some emerged as victorious and some are still trying ...

    Proof : Click Me

    So consider yourself lucky and follow the uninstall procedure and go get a life :)
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    06-03-2015 08:28 AM
  13. ashram's Avatar
    I don't see how one is being "forced" into a reservation. It's more of a "hey, windows 10 in less than 2 months, you you want to preload or wait"

    Considering I run 5 Windows 8 machines, the notification hasn't bothered me at all. it's not really that big of an issue. If it bothers you that much, I'd hate to see what else bothers you in the real world.
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    06-03-2015 11:17 AM
  14. djeire84's Avatar
    Ok OP you have a few options. Option 1. Buy either a Linux system or a iOSX system. Linux is complicated and iOSX is expensive.

    Option 2. Just leave the app on your desktop Windows won't install something on your pc without your say so.

    Option 3. If you hate windows so much don't buy their products, it's so easy just avoid the windows section of your local IT store.

    Option 4. Just lighten up there are wars, hunger, droughts, illegal animal killings, children dying all over the world to be thinking of and not a little icon at the bottom of your screen that will go away if you reinstall windows (your original windows) on your pc.
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    06-03-2015 01:28 PM
  15. Yazen's Avatar
    I have pop-up blocker turned on, all the web safety features that come with Windows, Windows Defender and Windows firewall turned on, and STILL this adware sneaks on to my PC? Have MS gone the Lenovo route? It's this kind of approach, forcing W10 on people, that makes me annoyed about Win10 and the general 'lack of choice' direction it's going in. If you really and truly feel you need to resort to adware to get people to take up W10, Microsoft, then what's the harm in adding a 'No thank you, please bog off and stop pestering me with ads' option, hmmm? Or at least allow Windows Defender to clean it out. It's supposed to be able to remove adware, and it can't even find the stuff Microsoft's written? How poor must Defender be at finding adware that's actually trying to get around it?

    I've uninstalled the darn thing of course. I'm not getting forced into a reservation for anyone. My choice, if you get it right at some point MS. Not before, and looking at it right now not for some time. I don't appreciate your attempts to strong-arm me MS. It feels very Google.
    Reminds me of this:


    ~1:30 and 2:10


    EDIT: How can they write off all this software if nobody is "reserving" it? I'd be upset if I was invested in Microsoft XD
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    06-03-2015 02:23 PM
  16. Yazen's Avatar
    Ok OP you have a few options. Option 1. Buy either a Linux system or a iOSX system. Linux is complicated and iOSX is expensive.
    Feel like someone needs to defend the OP lol.
    Honestly speaking, Latest distributions from Deepin and Ubuntu are simple to install on most devices. Moreover, tonymacx86 is real ;)))
    06-03-2015 02:26 PM
  17. djeire84's Avatar
    Feel like someone needs to defend the OP lol.
    Honestly speaking, Latest distributions from Deepin and Ubuntu are simple to install on most devices. Moreover, tonymacx86 is real ;)))

    I love Linux its so divisive. Nobody has the same Linux system. If I had the money id build my own pc and put Linux into it.
    Yazen likes this.
    06-03-2015 02:31 PM
  18. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    I still find it mind blowing that people don't understand that the purpose of the "menu" icon is an attempt to make apps mouse & keyboard friendly. Windows 8 apps simply didn't attract desktop users. And whether you realize it or not, getting those desktop users on Windows apps is the only way Microsoft can increase consumer app usage, thus attracting more developer support.
    Yeah, because the entire future of Windows rests on MS putting hamburger buttons into every app. Please explain how a menu icon (can be anything) in the upper left corner is more friendly to anyone? I never heard anyone say "Windows Phone is good but it needs awkward placed menus to succeed".
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    06-03-2015 03:00 PM
  19. TheCudder's Avatar
    Yeah, because the entire future of Windows rests on MS putting hamburger buttons into every app. Please explain how a menu icon (can be anything) in the upper left corner is more friendly to anyone? I never heard anyone say "Windows Phone is good but it needs awkward placed menus to succeed".
    Why am I not surprised you opted to use phones for an example just to try proving a point, when it was clear that I was referring to app usage on desktop PC's.
    06-03-2015 07:16 PM
  20. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    Why am I not surprised you opted to use phones for an example just to try proving a point, when it was clear that I was referring to app usage on desktop PC's.
    Because phones/tablets are the ones that are going to suffer the most from shoehorning this garbage into it, that's why. The one size fits all philosophy that MS is smoking nowadays is a joke.
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    06-03-2015 07:46 PM
  21. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Who said it was stolen from Android? I sure didn't.

    Convincing argument against hamburger menus: visually clunky, looks out of place in a OS, hard to reach, and the best one: we already have the ellipsis which looks better/takes up less space/much better area to touch

    Convincing argument for hamburger menus: people know what it is since they saw it on Android or iOS and some mobile websites. That's about it. Also some guy from MS says we need them now for universal apps even though there are universal apps that don't have them and function fine.

    Okay, no more hamburger talk. I'm hungry now.



    Agreed. I'm content with 8.1 (mobile and desktop) for now. That may change later on.
    Xbox Music, Xbox Video and OneNote among others make use of the Splitview control aka meat feast menu
    06-03-2015 08:06 PM
  22. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    The icon stays there even when you reserve your upgrade; it is no clever solution for sure and evidently annoys some people but this is by far not so interesting to justify this uproar.

    For Microsoft this transition is seemingly as important as a Windows Update which would also put an icon into the system tray until I install the updates.
    Maybe this icon (a component of the "Get Windows 10" app as Microsoft is calling it) vanishes after 29 of July but stays there until then as a daily reminder of this important transition.
    You can hide the flipping icon. Geez Louise.
    There's a whole FAQ for crying out loud
    06-03-2015 08:08 PM
  23. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    Xbox Music, Xbox Video and OneNote among others make use of the Splitview control aka meat feast menu
    That is true. I don't use them so they didn't come to mind. I remember when OneNote was a pretty app too. A shame.
    06-03-2015 08:14 PM
  24. DavidinCT's Avatar
    I have pop-up blocker turned on, all the web safety features that come with Windows, Windows Defender and Windows firewall turned on, and STILL this adware sneaks on to my PC? Have MS gone the Lenovo route? It's this kind of approach, forcing W10 on people, that makes me annoyed about Win10 and the general 'lack of choice' direction it's going in. If you really and truly feel you need to resort to adware to get people to take up W10, Microsoft, then what's the harm in adding a 'No thank you, please bog off and stop pestering me with ads' option, hmmm? Or at least allow Windows Defender to clean it out. It's supposed to be able to remove adware, and it can't even find the stuff Microsoft's written? How poor must Defender be at finding adware that's actually trying to get around it?

    I've uninstalled the darn thing of course. I'm not getting forced into a reservation for anyone. My choice, if you get it right at some point MS. Not before, and looking at it right now not for some time. I don't appreciate your attempts to strong-arm me MS. It feels very Google.
    Could not agree more. This is Microsoft using a Windows Update to bring down an Ad. This is as good as spyware. You get a ad, you need to react to it, it shows up in your task bar unless you uninstall it.

    This might as well be a ad that is sitting on your task bar by clicking on something you should not of. Pretty much the same thing if you think about it.

    Think about this another way, a big vendor wants to give Microsoft money to put an ad for their product in Windows, Microsoft could do this, as I said pretty much that is what it is. They do it once and it opens up the door to be done again.

    Someone should start a class action lawsuit against Microsoft for using an update for promote a new product. This should not be done.
    Yazen likes this.
    06-04-2015 07:39 AM
  25. 920Walker's Avatar
    If you're offended by Microsoft's method of informing users of a new OS upgrade, a free one for many at that, you need some new hobbies.
    06-04-2015 08:17 AM
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