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  1. stevemind's Avatar
    Sounds good to me lol.........the content matters more than the name.
    07-07-2015 02:50 PM
  2. Cody Patterson's Avatar
    Honestly naming it Groove is a mistake. Microsoft really sucks at naming things. No consistency with their marketing which reall sucks for the end user. All the need to do is call it "Music" that would be a great name for the app on their own OS. I'm sure there is no patenet for naming apps eithing their own ecosystem that can restrict them from that. Groove sounds like groove shark which automatically takes away from the fact that actually Microsoft made it, also groove is not what I do when I play music. I hate the term groovy ad do most people my age. We already have made ot clear that Microsoft wont win u til they win over the average teen well u til they get their marketing team fired and replaced with people who actually know what the younger generation would like ten they will Continue to have problems. It is ver disappointing and surprising how many people are actually in support of this horrible name change. Xbox music was a bad name, groove is even worse. Either call it Microsoft Music, Windows Music, plain old "Music" or something music related that ties into Microsoft as a company.
    Tom Snyder likes this.
    07-07-2015 03:07 PM
  3. dawindbag's Avatar
    Exactly, LIVE Music carries connotations of music streaming and radio service, which is exactly why I would have immediately deleted it from my phone, not knowing what it really was.

    I want a music player that can play the music on my SD card. I do not stream music, as I do not wish to blow my data that way. I rarely get access to Wi-Fi, except when using my phone as a hotspot. LIVE would have been unacceptable for me, because it gives the WRONG connotation for me. A lot of people feel as I do. It needs to be a name that can mean music from anywhere, on any platform, for anyone. I think Groove accomplishes that just fine.
    I understand the argument and I think Groove has the exact same problem. It looks like bloatware for a streaming service (which it essentially is). The only things that won't look like bloatware on a new phone are a generic "Music" app and maybe Windows Music or Microsoft Music. I advocate for calling the app simply Music on Windows 10 and Windows 10 Mobile, and attaching the LIVE branding (or Groove) to the streaming service embedded in it that encompasses on-demand streaming, OneDrive music locker service and Radio.

    The Music app plays your local stuff and the LIVE service is all the premium cloud based stuff. On other platforms the LIVE service is the entirety of the offering since they won't be looking for a local music player.
    07-07-2015 05:30 PM
  4. Slovenix's Avatar
    At first I was shocked then I read about it's meaning and I liked it and now I love it.

    It's really refreshing after all that Google & Apple this and that something Music, even "One" and Xbox which never made sense as I see it as a gaming console, just like every one else around me. Plus not even Microsoft brand is very popular which makes some people not to use it at all. For example I always searched for alternatives on Android as "Google Play Music" just didn't feel that cool for some random reason. Same goes for Xbox Music on Windows Phone.

    So yeah.. Groove on.

    Ps. If you look at it's Icon you'll see a vinyl player shaped as a "G" :)
    920Walker likes this.
    07-07-2015 05:37 PM
  5. rhapdog's Avatar
    The Music app plays your local stuff and the LIVE service is all the premium cloud based stuff. On other platforms the LIVE service is the entirety of the offering since they won't be looking for a local music player.
    I think all that you're saying is just over complicating matters and would cause further confusion for a lot of people. Many people get confused easily.

    “Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.”
    – Albert Einstein
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    07-07-2015 06:35 PM
  6. Jazmac's Avatar
    07-07-2015 08:18 PM
  7. Jazmac's Avatar
    Sadly this applies to pretty much anything Microsoft does these days, lipstick on a pig.
    Microsoft not working for you? Let me ask, what doesn't work for you? Specifics.
    07-07-2015 10:29 PM
  8. TechFreak1's Avatar
    I believe people need to stop and think for a second.

    It's not about the name but what the app does and how it functions, people loved Zune (application + service) not for the name but for what it did. When they say bring back Zune, they actually mean bring back what made Zune so damn great.

    Only with Microsoft you get a wasted by-product with a transition to a new version... usually you get something better lol.

    I just hope they have learned their lesson with xbox music and Groove doesn't end up as by-product of xbox music thus resulting in even lower sub par experience. Don't get me wrong xbox music works fine.. now however before not so much which is why I stuck with MixRadio (which also was substantially cheaper).
    07-07-2015 11:06 PM
  9. wolfgangjr's Avatar
    It really was so dumb how they dumped the zine software and pushed out nothing but garbage since then. Sadly I think groove will be just as crappie as their post Zune stuff.

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    920Walker likes this.
    07-08-2015 05:56 AM
  10. rhapdog's Avatar
    Sadly this applies to pretty much anything Microsoft does these days, lipstick on a pig.
    Microsoft not working for you? Let me ask, what doesn't work for you? Specifics.
    Jazmac, I don't think mail2u was trying to bash Microsoft directly. Just a statement saying, "Haters gonna hate" kind of thing. At least, until I see something more direct, I'll give a new user a chance to show colors. :)

    What mail2u said is true, though. There are Microsoft haters out there, and whatever Microsoft does, even if it is great, haters are going to hate. You might as well be putting lipstick on a pig.
    07-08-2015 06:01 AM
  11. jmshub's Avatar
    In the post that explains why Microsoft chose to rename the music app to Groove ( Here's why Microsoft chose 'Groove' as the new name for Xbox Music | Windows Central ), they explain some confusion that users had understanding that they don't need an Xbox or Xbox account to use the music app. I can understand some people being confused over the naming convention, especially when Xbox wasn't used to describe any other media or streaming or entertainment options within Microsoft.

    Groove isn't a bad name, it is a musical word, and it is more creative than a very bland Microsoft Music or something. Only deep Microsoft insiders will recognize that Groove is a recycled name, and they will not confuse a music streaming service with a former office productivity sharing service.

    The more important thing here is that if Microsoft is going to stay in the music services arena, they have to get more competitive. When they introduced the Zune Music Pass, it was a screaming deal as there was nothing like it at that time. The ability to stream pretty much whatever you want, whenever you want, downloading tracks or albums for offline playback and free MP3s each month was pretty revolutionary. But music collection matching, cloud storage, and radio station creation and playback are now features that are done better on competing music services.

    People gripe about Microsoft being too open to the other platforms, but I don't know if there is a reason for iPhone or Android users to pick Groove over Beats (Apple Music) or Google Music or even Spotify. And there should be. This is one service that Microsoft really should be getting out to all platforms, get as many users as possible, and make their offering better than the competition.
    Last edited by jmshub; 07-08-2015 at 08:54 AM. Reason: typo
    07-08-2015 08:52 AM
  12. ShaneRay's Avatar
    ...but I don't know if there is a reason for iPhone or Android users to pick Groove over Beats (Apple Music) or Google Music or even Spotify. And there should be. This is one service that Microsoft really should be getting out to all platforms, get as many users as possible, and make their offering better than the competition.
    That's the problem right there. There's nothing compelling about the service as it stands now (and, really, has been so for quite some time). Even as someone who made the choice to go all in with Microsoft's ecosystem, Music (and video) offer me nothing over competing services (online or local management)...and that's why I cancelled my subscription last year.

    Here's an article from Neowin that sums up how I feel pretty well:

    Windows 10's rebranded entertainment apps still aren't good

    Better branding is just one item on a very long to-do list.
    920Walker likes this.
    07-08-2015 09:23 AM
  13. Jazmac's Avatar
    This is dumb as ever trying to chase bloggers to decide for the public what is and isn't good. The public decides much of this and Groove will be as good as the rest, if it isn't already.
    07-08-2015 10:06 AM
  14. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    I think Groove is pretty good.

    Beats Google Play Music.
    Something like Microsoft Music would be too... dry.

    I'm not a fan of Live Music either, I think Xbox Music isn't bad as it was. I liked "Zune" as well.
    Groove is indeed better than "Google Play Music". I think that "Live Music" is a goofy name but I thought that "XBox Music" was an absolutely terrible name.

    In my biased opinion, Microsoft should've resurrected the Zune name. Especially now that Apple has initiated their 2nd attempt at a social component.... Ping v.2. Zune Social worked well and the whole package back then is still better than what the competition is offering now.

    I keep my Zune software installers in a safe place and still install them on tablets and hybrids. It continues to work great (minus the marketplace).
    Jazmac likes this.
    07-08-2015 10:30 AM
  15. Jazmac's Avatar
    Groove is indeed better than "Google Play Music". I think that "Live Music" is a goofy name but I thought that "XBox Music" was an absolutely terrible name.

    In my biased opinion, Microsoft should've resurrected the Zune name. Especially now that Apple has initiated their 2nd attempt at a social component.... Ping v.2. Zune Social worked well and the whole package back then is still better than what the competition is offering now.

    I keep my Zune software installers in a safe place and still install them on tablets and hybrids. It continues to work great (minus the marketplace).
    Google music is a non starter. Its only doing it because everyone else is, not because they are committed to it. The way people talk about Zune, I wouldn't be surprised if it got a second look.
    07-08-2015 12:28 PM
  16. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    It's just a name people lmfao. I couldn't care less personally what it was called as long as it works as it should.

    Groove isn't bad....

    1. Microsoft should've brought Myxer and potentially use that as a new name

    2. Siren

    3. Melody

    4. Aria

    I like Siren and Aria :D
    07-08-2015 01:22 PM
  17. ShaneRay's Avatar
    This is dumb as ever trying to chase bloggers to decide for the public what is and isn't good. The public decides much of this and Groove will be as good as the rest, if it isn't already.
    I wasn't "chasing" anyone. I happened to link to an article by an author who shares my views. I'm glad you're optimistic about Microsoft's music offering, but many others, myself included, are not. And with good, well documented, reasons. I'd be more than happy to see you proven right.

    It's serviceable, yes, and with certain utility, but with a very long way to go in order to compete with the other players in the space.
    07-08-2015 01:55 PM
  18. 920Walker's Avatar
    Microsoft should have kept MixRadio and added a subscription tier to download specific albums of choice while making it all available for offline use.
    No lipstick needed on a divine being.
    07-08-2015 02:49 PM
  19. fatclue_98's Avatar
    OK, the old man will chime in.

    Those who weren't alive in the 70s may not understand but here goes. I'm a huge R&B fan and I couldn't possibly fathom Peaches & Herb doing "Shake your Live thing" or Earth, Wind and Fire doing "Let's Live tonight".

    Groove is groovy. There I said it. And yes, I still call the police "The Fuzz".
    07-08-2015 03:01 PM
  20. 920Walker's Avatar
    To all the rock and metal fans claiming they can't groove to their music...hello, Pantera, Bad Brains, Prong, Sepultura, Spiritual Beggars, ah Sepultura again? \m/><\m/
    Jazmac likes this.
    07-08-2015 04:02 PM
  21. Jazmac's Avatar
    OK, the old man will chime in.

    Those who weren't alive in the 70s may not understand but here goes. I'm a huge R&B fan and I couldn't possibly fathom Peaches & Herb doing "Shake your Live thing" or Earth, Wind and Fire doing "Let's Live tonight".

    Groove is groovy. There I said it. And yes, I still call the police "The Fuzz".
    I'm tellin' ya! These young people only know "samples" of our music and act like they've created something worthy of a spot on R&B or Rock n Roll halls of fame. None of these young lions are talking about, " a chair is still a chair, even when there is no one sitting there." or "
    The Temptations: Wish that I could catch, a night train to the past, climb aboard and hear you ask, Darling come inside" or The Whispers

    Feel much like romancing
    How'd you like to wine and dine?
    I'd like to take you dancin'
    Candle lights and dinner
    (We'll both relax)

    We'll dance to sweet music
    How about some Marvin Gaye?
    Feel like some sexual healing
    Just relax and let me do, let me do things my way..."

    That's the Groove. That's not xbox or LIVE.
    07-08-2015 07:05 PM
  22. fatclue_98's Avatar
    How about some Marvin Gaye?
    Preach!

    It's funny how circumstances can alter life choices. When my family and I came from Cuba in '69 there was nothing going on in Miami so we moved further North where my dad could find some work. The music scene was unusual for us since it sounded very different but my brother and I got a brief respite on weekends listening to some stuff that sounded like our own music. It was this new show called Soul Train, maybe you've heard of it.
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    07-09-2015 12:49 PM
  23. Jazmac's Avatar
    Preach!

    It's funny how circumstances can alter life choices. When my family and I came from Cuba in '69 there was nothing going on in Miami so we moved further North where my dad could find some work. The music scene was unusual for us since it sounded very different but my brother and I got a brief respite on weekends listening to some stuff that sounded like our own music. It was this new show called Soul Train, maybe you've heard of it.
    Fatclue: my brotha from another motha. If you grew up in the SoulTrain era, then you know of the groups I'm talking about. Moments, Whatnauts, Teddy P, Dramatics, Delphonics and the list goes on...
    920Walker likes this.
    07-10-2015 02:24 PM
  24. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Fatclue: my brotha from another motha. If you grew up in the SoulTrain era, then you know of the groups I'm talking about. Moments, Whatnauts, Teddy P, Dramatics, Delphonics and the list goes on...

    Chi-Lites, Stylistics, Spinners....Parliament Funk was bad and the Ohio Players were some cool cats.
    Jazmac likes this.
    07-10-2015 04:53 PM
  25. 920Walker's Avatar
    My gram ma ma just passed. Two of her kids passed before her, they grew up in the 60's. I found stacks of records from the 70's just waiting to be played. Of course I have a record player. Saw some Peaches and lots of Motown. Can't wait to listen to them in glory. RIP gram ma mas.....
    07-10-2015 08:27 PM
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