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  1. swanlee's Avatar
    The main point I have is MS did not have to nuke the tablet experience to appease desktop users. 2 modes desktop users never have to use the tablet mode. Tablet mode at least needs a few options that we can enable to have it act more like Win 8.1
    08-14-2015 11:12 AM
  2. AndyCalling's Avatar
    The main point I have is MS did not have to nuke the tablet experience to appease desktop users. 2 modes desktop users never have to use the tablet mode. Tablet mode at least needs a few options that we can enable to have it act more like Win 8.1
    This. A thousand times this. W10 feels like a virtual punishment beating for buying into Bulmer's claim that touch devices were the future. Now MS is clearly depreciating the touch UI in the same manner they did with Media Centre, our devices are on the fast route to planned obsolescence. Thanks MS. Message received, we know when we've out stayed our welcome.
    08-14-2015 11:58 AM
  3. iamtim's Avatar
    our devices are on the fast route to planned obsolescence. Thanks MS. Message received, we know when we've out stayed our welcome.
    I don't know if I can roll my eyes any harder than I just did.
    08-14-2015 12:03 PM
  4. Steve Thackery's Avatar
    The main point I have is MS did not have to nuke the tablet experience to appease desktop users. 2 modes desktop users never have to use the tablet mode. Tablet mode at least needs a few options that we can enable to have it act more like Win 8.1
    I totally agree. Tablet mode is TERRIBLE. They've thrown away all those innovative, slick and stylish graphics and gestures that we got with W8.1 and now it's like using a flippin' ANDROID tablet. YUCK!!!

    They've fixed something that wasn't broken. Pretty much nobody complained about W8.1 in tablet mode (apart from the Charms bar). W8.1 got a pasting because it was so rubbish in desktop mode. W10 has done a great job of fixing desktop mode, but gone and ruined tablet mode! All they had to do was replace the Charms with the Action Centre. Everything else was fine.

    Why??? This is so frustrating!! They've done the same to the Phone version as well.
    08-14-2015 12:10 PM
  5. AndyCalling's Avatar
    I don't know if I can roll my eyes any harder than I just did.
    Much rolling was done post Zune, post WP7, post Media Centre. It didn't help. Those land fill sites just kept filling up. We have to just hope someone gives Satya a better paid job to wreck something else so we can hope for better in W11.
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    08-14-2015 12:17 PM
  6. davidofmidnight's Avatar
    It's not "too soon".... I've been messing around with it and it's way more stable then windows 7 or Windows 8 at launch imo. I also upgraded at launch from Vista to 7 and then 7 to 8.


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    On desktops, it's probably fine for most people. But from the complaints from tablet users, it seems it was in fact "too soon" for release.

    I do think that Microsoft went really stupid by making it one OS instead of realizing that desktops and tablets and phones are different devices. It's the Swiss Army Knife of operating systems - it can do a lot of things, but can't do anything well.
    08-14-2015 12:25 PM
  7. iamtim's Avatar
    We have to just hope someone gives Satya a better paid job to wreck something else so we can hope for better in W11.
    Please. Windows 10 works great for me... on five machines of my own. Out of all the installations of Windows 10 and all the rave reviews its getting, you people with all your "problems" (which I'm not convinced aren't related to your specific hardware or installations) are so far in the minority it's not even funny.

    The *only* reported bug I've been able to reproduce on any one of my machines (or the three machines to which I'm peripheral that aren't mine) is the Edge slow-downs on ad-heavy sites. Most of what's actually been reported in this thread is from sad-faces with their diapers in a pinch because Microsoft changed things and now they're different.

    The funny thing is that any *actual* problems are being addressed by Microsoft more aggressively and more quickly than they have with any other prior version of Windows. Windows 10 hasn't been out for a month, and look at how many updates Microsoft has already pushed.
    08-14-2015 12:46 PM
  8. excalibur1814's Avatar
    You know what... Just roll back to Windows 8.1 be done with it.

    I'm sticking with 10 on my desktops and Surface Pro 3. Typical human beings moan, moan and complain. Not ONE person is forcing anyone to use Windows 10. There's always the iPad (Better get a 2Gb Air 2 otherwise features will be removed in due course) or a Chromebook that features 16Gb of eMMC storage (With prices rising as they can spot fools from miles away).

    Enjoy
    08-14-2015 01:47 PM
  9. mister2d's Avatar
    You know what... Just roll back to Windows 8.1 be done with it.

    I'm sticking with 10 on my desktops and Surface Pro 3. Typical human beings moan, moan and complain. Not ONE person is forcing anyone to use Windows 10. There's always the iPad (Better get a 2Gb Air 2 otherwise features will be removed in due course) or a Chromebook that features 16Gb of eMMC storage (With prices rising as they can spot fools from miles away).

    Enjoy
    Lame I know. I was bored with MS Paint.

    08-14-2015 03:00 PM
  10. VARUNGUPTA16061992's Avatar
    They could have retained Start Screen and get Win10 start menu for desktop. Nways it is gone. We may see improvement in near future in tablet mode.. Insiders can keep pressure on same during TH2 development

    But what I don't like is new apps.. Why it takes so much time to open calculator or calendar or photos. My photos open faster on Windows Photo Viewer then on photos app. They should get rid of this new apps and get new faster systems. It's frustrating when apps like Calculator takes time to load.
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    08-15-2015 08:53 AM
  11. Pond86's Avatar
    My only two issues are all pinned taskbar icons flash when interacting with the Recycle Bin (which according to MS Support is a new feature of 10, to tell you your intacting with your PC.) I fail to see the benefit of this feature and its annoying as hell, (tempted to backtrack.) Also Spotify doesnt seem to want to pin to takbar or start.
    08-15-2015 11:05 AM
  12. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    I disagree. I've had to restore my computer since it had a corrupted boot drive, but I'm itching for that Windows download to pop up again. It's way better than Windows 7 and 8. Features are only gonna get better and it hasn't even been a month since its release so give it time. Like other OS's it will improve with time.
    08-15-2015 09:40 PM
  13. desaideas1's Avatar
    There is a simple reg hack for #2. Did it, love it.
    08-15-2015 10:19 PM
  14. Shiells's Avatar
    I dislike that Windows 10 doesn't allow you to decide which updates are installed. The reason for taking away that freedom to decide for yourself is horrible.

    Also, I use a touchscreen laptop. So, immediately I found that Windows 10 was harder to use than Windows 8.1. I don't have a tablet, I don't have a non-touchscreen device. I want to use my touchscreen notebook like a touchscreen notebook, not like a tablet or non-touchscreen PC. Again, horrible change.

    Another problem that I found very quickly is that Windows 10 caused my computer to shutdown instead of sleeping. Reading through the forums, I found evidence that this problem started in beta testing for some users. However, after over and hour-and-a-half on the telephone with Microsoft and HP, the problem was not solved. In fact, their support reps just acted like they'd never heard of such an issue, despite the fact that there were new threads all over the forums about the same exact issue.

    And I've heard that with Windows 10, it's easier for Windows employees to access your personal information. Not something that I find attractive.

    I went back to Windows 8.1. I may go back to Macintosh.
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    08-16-2015 09:42 AM
  15. ikhfa's Avatar
    Windows 8.1 simply worked for me. Looking at how I loved Windows 8.1, I saw promise in Win 10. But Windows 10 gives me problems. Today, I can't update (cumulative). It said that the update was unsuccessful hence they rolled back to the last update. Then when I restarted, the Windows Update showed that I need to update the same update again. The whole thing is a mess. My son's Fifa 14 game stuttered after the very first upgrade. My wife's printer wouldn't install. I have to agree, this version is half-baked and not aesthetically pleasing. Worse is the fact that the controls are non-intuitive.
    08-16-2015 10:11 AM
  16. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    I REALLY like W10 on my desktop. It's great. But for my tablet, W10 fails. I'll be rolling back to 8.1 until they fix some issues. There are some that bother me (vertical scrolling opposed to horizontal) which will never be changed and that is too bad....
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    08-20-2015 06:00 PM
  17. rocketboy's Avatar
    Even though I got kind of burned on my SP2 with Win10 I tried it on my desktop. Even did a clean install. It works mostly fine with one big caveat. All my games crash to desktop within 5 minutes. Recent games that worked perfectly in Windows 8.1. It must be some kind of graphics driver issue (GTX 460), but I've updated everything via NVidia GeForce Experience. Even clean installed a set of drivers. Gaming is (was) at least 1/3 of my desktop use. Sigh. I don't know if it's NVidia or MS issue but I do know that I'm definitely having less fun on Win10.
    08-25-2015 06:51 PM
  18. Przemyslaw Pacocha's Avatar
    I don't like Skype on the WIN 10 but the Metro thing is very nice, even nicer is fact I have whole browsing history from my PC on my Mobile Phone
    08-27-2015 10:41 AM
  19. mohit9206's Avatar
    I'd rather use Windows Vista than Windows 10. Vista > Windows 10.
    08-27-2015 01:07 PM
  20. Closingracer's Avatar
    I'd rather use Windows Vista than Windows 10. Vista > Windows 10.




    Said by nobody ever.....Vista was horrible.


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    08-27-2015 07:39 PM
  21. mohit9206's Avatar
    Said by nobody ever.....Vista was horrible.


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    Did you ever use Vista SP1 or SP2?
    Because if you did, you wouldn't call it horrible. I used Vista SP1 from 2008-2012 and never had any major issues that i can remember.
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    08-28-2015 03:39 AM
  22. DarwinPurol's Avatar
    Redundancy???
    Literally!!
    calc.jpg



    Feels unfinished?! Yeah..some forgotten apps.
    forgotten.jpg
    math.jpg
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    08-28-2015 06:14 AM
  23. Greg B's Avatar
    I'm a desktop/laptop user with 2 machines at home, both non-touch that were running Win 7. I let one of them upgrade itself to Win 10 last weekend. I will give MS credit for making the upgrade process relatively painless and reasonably quick compared to some others in the past. The result is not horrible but I can't say I like it much, at least not yet.

    I was very comfortable with Win7 and skipped the Win8/8.1 experience because of poor user feedback and the fact that it seemed to be change for the sake of change if you were using a non-touch machine. I was hoping Win10 would extend the life of my machines until they needed to be replaced. I wasn't looking for any extra features. Right now I'm not sure if it is worth the pain to upgrade the other machine after the experience with the first one.

    My main issues were annoyances rather than failures. Screen fonts were very blurry after the upgrade. I was eventually able to get this to an acceptable level by going into ClearType (after a reboot as it would not let me go there at first) and going through the 6 screens of eye charts. One thing I am still struggling with is the entire issue of Windows password versus MS Account password when waking the machine from the screen saver. I had a MS account after I bought Office online but never used it for much. Now W10 wants that (much longer) password every time I go back to the upgraded machine and it is in screen saver mode. Annoying. I don't know what the implications are for turning that off or even if I can.

    I find it is slower upon reawakening. I am assuming it is syncing or otherwise communicating with somewhere to cause that but again I don't know what happens if I try to change that behavior, or even if I can.

    Cortana is deactivated, which is a disappointment. I am in Canada and do not understand why we are not supposed to use it. I gather you can reset your location to the US to address that, but then you can't buy anything using your MS account. Annoying.

    As others have noted, the look of the dialog boxes is very plain and a step backwards. Minor but annoying.

    I may be missing something but it appears that there is no native help function included in Win10. I tried to figure out some of this by using the function in the taskbar to search for assistance and it took me to a browser screen with Bing results (I don't want Bing for anything) that were largely from non-MS sites. Again, maybe I am missing something.

    I have no idea how to use most of the new things that are there, such as the apps that appear when you click on the start menu. I had hoped to find some sort of detailed how-to documentation somewhere but so far, no luck.

    I am confused and irritated enough that I am pondering a rollback to Win7. I don't hate it, but it is new and different enough for me to feel uneasy with it.
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    08-28-2015 07:25 AM
  24. mister2d's Avatar
    Another gripe. Is there a way to annotate/draw on PDFs with the Surface pen in Windows 10? I'm thinking not since PDFs open by default in the browser? This OS is nonsense. lol

    Glad to have 8.1 on my SP3 still.
    08-28-2015 10:05 AM
  25. tonyr6's Avatar
    One thing I hate about Windows 10 and I will soon ditch it the automatic installation of buggy drivers Microsoft pushes.
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    08-28-2015 01:34 PM
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