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  1. Dewg's Avatar
    That's why I love the Windows Feedback app. If I find something I don't like, or think can be improved, I go give my feedback or upvote someone else who's got the same idea. We can make a difference. :-)
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    07-31-2015 11:30 AM
  2. Byrese's Avatar
    Why did they have to nuke all the good things Win 8.1 did well for touch devices just to appease desktop users? Their is now a separate Desktop AND Tablet mode. Making Tablet mode function like Win 8.1 on tablets would have ZERO effect on desktop users. It's like MS screwed up Tablet mode out of spite or something.
    True. They could gave kept things like gestures on the tablet mode side but then it would still feel like two separate operating systems and not one fluid system.

    Look...we cant have our cake and eat it too. We cant complain about MS not having enough market share and then complain that W10 needs to be more than like 8.1, which nobody other than us liked and is the reason they have low market share. So they have to make a more seamless experience and one that moves away 8.1 in some ways. For every person MS loses bcuz they don't like w10 (because they favor 8.1) they'll gain 3 times as much because W10 much more resembles 7. That's what their thinking. 😔
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    07-31-2015 11:35 AM
  3. swanlee's Avatar
    That's why I love the Windows Feedback app. If I find something I don't like, or think can be improved, I go give my feedback or upvote someone else who's got the same idea. We can make a difference. :-)
    Yea problem is those of us that were Tablet users in the TP used every method possible to provide feedback on what was wrong with Win 10 in Tablet mode. And Ms promptly ignored nearly everything suggested.
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    07-31-2015 12:01 PM
  4. swanlee's Avatar
    True. They could gave kept things like gestures on the tablet mode side but then it would still feel like two separate operating systems and not one fluid system.

    Look...we cant have our cake and eat it too. We cant complain about MS not having enough market share and then complain that W10 needs to be more than like 8.1, which nobody other than us liked and is the reason they have low market share. So they have to make a more seamless experience and one that moves away 8.1 in some ways. For every person MS loses bcuz they don't like w10 (because they favor 8.1) they'll gain 3 times as much because W10 much more resembles 7. That's what their thinking. ��

    Sorry but your wrong we can easil;y have our cake and eat it to. MS certainly could have thrown some of these requests as non default user configurable options in Tablet mode without breaking anything or disrupting the ONE OS Idea.

    Having the Taskbar swipe on/off like charms acted, allowing a full screen more touch enabled mode to MS Edge and allowing swiping through open apps would in no way mess up continuum or it's design goals. These are simply a hand full of very logical options that could be enabled for Tablet mode users if they wanted to use them. Just a couple of on/off toggles in the Tablet mode area of settings could be provided to correct most of the Tablet Mode issues.
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    07-31-2015 12:05 PM
  5. Steve Thackery's Avatar
    I agree with this, I mean who would design a system of providing information where the background is white and all the information is displayed in black. You just never see that in the real world, it's almost like the graphic designers were so lazy they spent their whole work days reading books.
    Sarcasm noted, but black backgrounds save a significant amount of power if you are using a battery-powered device with an OLED screen.
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    07-31-2015 12:53 PM
  6. excalibur1814's Avatar
    10) I'm busy clicking the tiles to launch them instead of waiting for them to update.
    9) I love the Action Centre, especially on the Pro 3. Breath of fresh air to have settings in one place.
    8) I have my shortcuts, the main ones, on the task bar. All others are nicely arranged. No issues. I just click.
    7) I can ignore tablet mode as the standard mode, with expanded start menu, fits perfectly well on a Pro 3.
    6) Now you're just trying to find things to complain about. Do you get out much? :)
    5) Colour does not annoy me as all I do is click to launch
    4) They all seemed to respond perfectly fine on my 3 machines? Then again they run well.
    3) Doesn't bother me? I'm busy USING the OS.
    2) Now... you do have a point here.
    1) I have zero issues with the Surface Pro 3. Menus are large enough to click etc.


    You see... I just want to USE the OS. I have little time to mess or notice small things. I'm glad that you've noticed as you can highligh your issues with MS. While you're doing that people like myself are simply carrying on working as usual.
    M L, Loc Ngo, Alexis-1991 and 2 others like this.
    07-31-2015 01:07 PM
  7. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    I only agree about two things here:
    Tablet Mode is severely unfinished, and;
    There are plenty of UI inconsistencies.
    However, UI inconsistencies do not affect the integrity nor the performance of the operating system, and--however annoying they may be--will be fixed with time. Besides, the majority of people probably won't notice them anyways until they change to a more consistent design, then they'll be pleasantly surprised. It's human nature to overlook the unimportant things. The things that you claimed were "unfinished" were mostly UI preferences rather than design flaws. That time not so long ago when the Windows Phone Start Screen was just a lot of differently hued Tiles, plenty of people complained about it. People still complain that Microsoft applications such as OneNote don't follow their accent color. I, personally, like the circle profile pictures and understand their purpose, even if you don't. There isn't just the United States and Europe. Windows 10 is for the entire world, and circles for people is less offensive and more culturally accepted in several rather large parts of the world.
    I agree that Tablet Mode is unfinished, and I desperately hope that Microsoft will fix it with Threshold 2 this fall. Over all, though, that is the only thing I completely agree with you on.

    You act like Windows 10 was supposed to be the only operating system to ever be released already finished and perfect. It has never happened, and never will. Over all, Windows 10 is polished, efficient, and fully operational. Compared to some of the other atrocious OS releases (Vista, anyone?) Windows 10 is as smooth as butter. Now please, stop expecting any operating system to be 100% perfect, and start compromising. You have to meet it somewhere. Either use Windows 10 or don't. Microsoft can't please everyone.
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    07-31-2015 07:12 PM
  8. Mike Santagata's Avatar
    I completely understand that no operating system is flawless, especially right off the bat. However. Microsoft had the insider program this time. That being said, there should be less issues than there are. Most issues in seeing are navigational and performance issues based on poor design of the overall operating system. I just don't get why we can't chose to run windows 10 as desktop only, or touch only (touch as in 8.1). I get I am being over critical, but there are plenty of things here that don't make sense. Those pill toggle switches? White systems screens? Tablet mode fiasco? All im saying, is, I have seen a lot of people complaining about the same things I listed. Sure not everything listed those things together like I did... But I have seen multiple users complain about each and every point I did. Whether separate, or combined. I just want Microsoft to listen. Windows 10 has potential. It really does. On a desktop, or standard laptop its fine.
    07-31-2015 07:54 PM
  9. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    I completely understand that no operating system is flawless, especially right off the bat. However. Microsoft had the insider program this time. That being said, there should be less issues than there are. Most issues in seeing are navigational and performance issues based on poor design of the overall operating system. I just don't get why we can't chose to run windows 10 as desktop only, or touch only (touch as in 8.1). I get I am being over critical, but there are plenty of things here that don't make sense. Those pill toggle switches? White systems screens? Tablet mode fiasco? All im saying, is, I have seen a lot of people complaining about the same things I listed. Sure not everything listed those things together like I did... But I have seen multiple users complain about each and every point I did. Whether separate, or combined. I just want Microsoft to listen. Windows 10 has potential. It really does. On a desktop, or standard laptop its fine.
    The desktop majority is who they went after first, and the tablet and phone folks will be next.

    Small annoyances that everyone is complaining about don't seem to get corrected until they put out enough fires unless the tech sites start hammering them all the time.

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    07-31-2015 09:54 PM
  10. Alicenfin's Avatar
    I'll take it one step further and stick with 8.1 for the long run......I don't need 10.....
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    07-31-2015 10:14 PM
  11. Glen Dickinson's Avatar
    The only thing I don't like (because I love most of windows 10) is a lack of file explorer view for OneDrive without making them available offline. I don't want my OneDrive on my pc, I want to see it like all other folders. It was flawless before.
    07-31-2015 10:20 PM
  12. Kadcidxa's Avatar
    10. Don't forget the store and camera icon when they are in small tile. So ugly!
    08-01-2015 12:04 AM
  13. Tsang Fai's Avatar
    Some people seem to forget that an OS is designed to be customizable. But they expect the OS to behave the ways they want without any attempt of changing settings and adapting to some the new UI.
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    08-01-2015 12:06 AM
  14. Chad Wichterman's Avatar
    I don't like the way my softwares open up. They are bigger and the words and the art of them is off. Blurry and in less of a resolution like video quality are. The original menu is too bright and washed out, hard to see the words. I am not crazy about how the functions of the old charm bar is placed now. I can't go to the side of the screen to bring it up. I have to search for the power and lock buttons. The top of the tabs are white and when you try to make them darker by color or design...half of the X, dash and other function keys in the top right hand corner are cut off in half of it's color and look. The folders are a little too bright in color. Two folders keep coming back and i try to delete them and they keep popping up...delete them...pop back up again (a loosing battle here). I am talking (for a short example, there may be other folders that are magically there that i didn't make) about the Saved Pictures and Camera Roll. Also the quick access is annoying at times.
    08-01-2015 01:01 AM
  15. Chad Wichterman's Avatar
    I made a video on my complaints and it is on my Facebook page...under my videos in my albums section.
    08-01-2015 01:03 AM
  16. CamiKitti's Avatar
    I don't like how I had to re-add permissions to my folders especially when my account (the only account) is the Admin.

    The white background thing reminds me of iOS. They need to add the black option. I agree some things look odd. I like the round toggle switches.
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    08-01-2015 03:57 AM
  17. Jazmac's Avatar
    I don't believe you are are being honest OP. In fact, I'd say you are being quite dishonest in your assessment of Windows 10.
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    08-01-2015 04:11 AM
  18. egold70's Avatar
    Something to think about: How many eyebrows or faces twitched of even yells of "WHAT" were released back in June when 29th of July general availability date was announced? Anyone having tried insider preview back then knew 10 is far from being even close to finished.
    Now, with the "final bits' on both my laptop and tablet I can confidently conclude that not only it`s not finished but in the present state the OS is no more than beta software. There are countless "inconsistencies" and bugs that were pointed in many threads, apps that do not open or need several attempts to make them work...but that is the point with beta`s isn`t it? IMO the real reason behind offering Windows 10 as a free upgrade is being real beta software, MS probably intends to bring the OS to more mature state in the next year or so and then stop the "free" beta program and continue business as usual.
    Maybe 5 million insiders were not enough(myself in that count) and now after the release everyone is becoming an insider wishfully or not even without pressing the "become insider" button, considering that you are obligated to install every update and to leave the feedback to full data send otherwise as explained some parts will not function.
    Having said that I`m by no means complaining, it is my opinion on how W10 evolves and a very probable explanation of the real MS strategy.
    Actually I`m enjoying 10 on my laptop/desktop version, the tablet experience though is far behind 8.1 as already pointed out and really hope it will eventually improve with lots of feedback taken into consideration. The battery life on the tablet is awful despite fresh OS reset and disable all background programs and Wi-Fi during sleep, this may be a sufficient reason for reverting to 8.1
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    08-01-2015 04:32 AM
  19. Chad Wichterman's Avatar
    I have found this issue and had to click to put a check mark in the box under the properties of each software so far.
    This is prob. my issue with the softwares being so not clear and sharp. ooVoo didn't work i think as well as 360 Total Security.

    disable display scaling on high dpi settings
    08-01-2015 04:43 AM
  20. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    I agree!
    Win 10 is massively overrated!
    It is decent (but still not GOOD) on desktop and it is close to crap on a tablet.
    However, I think that it is "good enough" for the average W7 user as they are used to a 6/7 year old OS.

    I think Windows 10 is like "the emperors new clothes"
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    08-01-2015 05:13 AM
  21. excalibur1814's Avatar
    A LOT of changes will come later. You don't release a perfect product first time. No. Never. You'll die after awhile as the device will get no press from updates. Heck look at the iPad 1 with no camera. You improve as you go along.
    08-01-2015 05:45 AM
  22. Krystianpants's Avatar
    I love the start menu. I would like it to mimic the settings for tiles on the phone. Allowing background pics, transparency all that. But so far I have loved setting up my own custom app groups and seeing a start menu that fits my own needs. A lot of people who got used to Windows 8.1 now have to get used to this. It may **** them off. I agree tablet mode needs work but its not bad enough you can't deal with it till fall. Desktop was priority. Think about it. Windows 7 was still the highest used operating system. You Windows 8.1 users are a minority and that doesn't make them money. You probably never bought apps but you complain. So ms releases an unfinished version of the vision for a reason. It's to get it on as many pc's as possible. Now developers see a market there. They start coding. By the time the fall fixes show up. You have developers releasing more apps and the eco system is then pretty nice up to the launch of their premium phones. So "no apps" is no longer an excuse not to buy a Windows phone. Welcome to the great business strategy.
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    08-01-2015 06:00 AM
  23. instantk's Avatar
    Did anyone try playing store games? Games like shark dash and rayman jungle run don't respond to mouse clicks easily...(the actual click area is shifted from the perceived visible buttons).. This is a issue on 1280x 768 resolution and below..though ms mentions the res. Limit as 1024*600... Now much of my windows 8 purchases are going to go waste!

    Also, i would like to point out that ms should have kept the tab mode same as the present windows 8.1 gdr1
    The tab mode is horrible
    08-01-2015 06:07 AM
  24. Arun3's Avatar
    I agree with you on a lot of the points mentioned. I use my SPro3 as a tablet 90% of the time. There's no ambiguity in saying that the tablet mode in Windows 10 needs a lot of work.
    I had a hard time getting adjusted to using Edge as the new browser, as it was way slower when compared to IE. Also, the lack of gesture based navigation also bothered me. Changing the browser to Firefox is a nightmare to use on the tablet mode.
    That being said, I can totally appreciate how they nailed the desktop mode.

    In short, the update made my SPro3 perfect as a laptop, but really a bad touch machine. So I reverted it back to W 8.1 (Which is a nightmare; ended up recycling my PC). I'm waiting a few more months until they issues patches and fixes, before installing Windows 10.
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    08-01-2015 06:41 AM
  25. hagjohn's Avatar
    I happen to like the start screen/all apps from Windows 8 but I would take 10's start menu over 7's.
    08-01-2015 07:16 AM
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