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  1. egold70's Avatar
    Modern IE was an amazing browser for touch... NOTHING on your screen till you need it and a very slick and simple interface. With Edge you cannot run it full screen and coupled with the unremovable taskbar it takes up screen space and is irritating to use with the small buttons. MS in general has taken everything that used to be swiped in from 1 of 4 edges and placed it all on the screen which not only makes it look dated but also cluttered.
    That's why I went back to 8.1 on my tablet(again after insider build fiasco) and am staying firmly here
    I find edge almost impossible to use on daily basis even on desktop, good IE 11 is still there
    On tablet no other browser except modern IE is giving you a real touch surfing experience
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    08-02-2015 03:34 PM
  2. bluefirestarter's Avatar
    I don't have 10 things but a few things that drive me bonkers. They have completely ruined OneDrive and pushing it back a few months is really absurd especially since they want people to use Microsoft services. I have completely stopped using OneDrive and no interest to until placeholders come back.I do like Groove but I think it's missing some key features competitors have that would make it great. Basic things like an EQ or the ability to burn CD's. I would also like some of the social aspects that Spotify has. It'd be cool to check out a friends playlist while playing a game on the Xbox One/PC. Edge is a bit of a mess it needs extensions (everyone has said this) but doing little things like deleting favs from the favs bar when they are in a folder are gone. Why? Other than those 3 big things everything else has been great. Bring on the apps!
    08-02-2015 03:41 PM
  3. fatfingur's Avatar
    Battery Life for me is what I hate about Windows 10. From 8 hours down to 2 hours on my Surface Pro 2. SMH.
    08-02-2015 07:44 PM
  4. onkel_axel's Avatar
    i read this as 2,5 reason
    1. unfinished inconsistent look
    2. tablet mode
    3. look and design language
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    08-02-2015 08:50 PM
  5. Roderick Aspiras's Avatar
    I though 99% hated Windows 8.1?
    08-02-2015 08:57 PM
  6. Roderick Aspiras's Avatar
    I agree to most of the issues here but I also disagree on some particularly Task View/Switcher. I believe it is easier than swiping and swiping until you reach to your desired app or screen. Unless your doing a thumb or finger exercise and you want to strengthen that finger by swiping and swiping. I think Windows 10 is a WORK IN PROGESS. Is it a bad thing? Yes - because its unfinished and No - because it will only get better. So clearly this is like when you were in Windows 7 and tried Windows 8 for the first time. Everybody shouted F##@#@# and threw curses at Microsoft. In time we will get use to it so that's how it is.
    08-02-2015 09:07 PM
  7. hemanlive's Avatar
    Better still, wait for another year and it will be even better. This way all you can do is just wait and then wait keep on waiting forever.
    08-02-2015 11:49 PM
  8. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    ... disagree on some particularly Task View/Switcher. I believe it is easier than swiping and swiping until you reach to your desired app or screen. Unless your doing a thumb or finger exercise and you want to strengthen that finger by swiping and swiping...
    That is not how you do it in W8/8.1.
    You swipe to get the previous app or maybe one more. To get a list of running apps ju just swipe in (from the left) and out again. That brings up a fast task manager (all this done and controlled by your left thumb without even moving your hand.
    It is in fact better than W10.
    Last edited by Ian_Superfly; 08-03-2015 at 02:11 AM.
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    08-03-2015 12:25 AM
  9. LeHoangHa's Avatar
    I think it is because of the resolution. Just based on my experience. :D
    08-03-2015 12:33 AM
  10. josuan's Avatar
    You got that very right!!
    08-03-2015 01:54 AM
  11. josuan's Avatar
    You can help yourself by going to another operating system. It's simple.
    08-03-2015 01:58 AM
  12. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    I find 0 issue with fullscreen browsing in Windows 10. I launched the modern version of IE all of once on my surface pro 3. .
    But, using the touch screen, can you enter a web address etc then? I could not open that field once I changed to “full screen” (and it was even hard to close the program…).

    As for sharing via the charms bar? All of twice. My exact train of thought when I saw what they had done with the notification center was "oh wow they got rid of all the stuff I never used and made it into something useful".

    Guess what, there's still a giant freaking share icon built into every single app or explorer window in the system. You've lost 0 functionality and now the notifcation center is more useful for more people.
    Not really. You can maneuver a W8/8.1 tablet with your thumbs without removing your hands. You can share a webpage/email etc while standing in a buss/train or walking on the street/talking on the phone etc etc.
    In W10 you must hold the table in one hand and then press in many different areas of the screen with the other (like iPad1 from 2010).

    In regards to edge lacking the swipe back and forth feature, I will agree with you there, and guess what, you don't have to use edge. That product is still in its infancy and will be getting updated. Why you would use it right now when there are bigger page load issues, is beyond me
    So, what do you use instead? IE on W10 has no swipe. They removed it (atleast for my Surface PROs)!
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    08-03-2015 02:08 AM
  13. JohnIvory's Avatar
    LOL @ all the people shouting "Go to Linux or Apple". The truth is that Windows 10 isn't finished. This isn't like Windows 8, which was finished even though people didn't like the finished product. This is a product that has a solid foundation but is really, really lacking in polish.

    - The UI in many areas is a mess. Some items in settings look like they're simply being pulled from the internet, with misaligned lines and poorly chosen fonts. The icons for system programs are a hodge-podge of different colours and design choices.
    - The built-in apps are still lacking a lot of features (Mail still doesn't show unread for each account, lack's unified inbox; Groove still doesn't have gapless playback, shows duplicate playlists, etc).
    - The massive mismatch between the Metro/Modern and Legacy worlds is greater than even in Windows 8. Everything is bigger with the Modern apps. The fonts are bigger, the bars are bigger, everything. And on the same screen you see much smaller, more compact menus on the legacy apps, making the OS look and feel disjointed at its core. At least in Windows 8 you could choose which world you wanted to live in; now you can't and the differences are all the more glaring.
    - Battery life (for me at least) has been cut in half.
    - Edge is the most barebones browser in browsing history.

    The OS has a solid core. I have no doubt the system engineers worked night and day to get it ready for release. The UI, however, the thing we see when interacting with the core, needs A LOT of work. Those that are saying "The OS is free; get over it" astound me. Nobody forced MSFT to make it free. The OS isn't unfinished because it's free; it's unfinished because Microsoft wanted to make back-to-school. And lastly one shouldn't expect quality from the world's largest software maker to go down because they're giving away their flagship product. This is the face of Microsoft. It should look better.

    Seriously, we know the fans will try anything Microsoft makes and try to see the best in it, but c'mon guys. Not everyone that disagrees with you is trying to sabotage you. Any reasonable person should be able to see that 10 isn't on the same level of polish as 8 or 7 were when released. I think we can all admit that.
    08-03-2015 02:08 AM
  14. izik770's Avatar
    I extremely AGREE!!!
    Microsoft, sham on you!
    Instead of fixing windows 8 issues, you just made it worse then ever.
    Now I'm gonna have to wait for windows 11, or just stay with 8 forever!
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    08-03-2015 02:45 AM
  15. elangab's Avatar
    Windows 10 is, sadly, a 1.0 product. I'm sure it'll be MUCH better a year from today. It's like XP before SP2. I'm using Windows 10 since the first preview build, and there are things that still are not working as they should. Mail client is a good example, I'm using outlook.com account on 2 clean installed machines, and I still hardly get any notification and/or live tile and/or perfect sync. Edge is missing some IE features such as automatically open the download windows after you closed IE, in case there's a download in progress. With Edge, the download just stops. The system is fast, solid and working, but there are tons of small things that must be addressed. I reinstalled 8.1 to activate my key, and less than 2 minuets after logging in the mail client was syncing, the start screen was super fast and everything worked. This was not the case with 8.0, so it's safe to say that it'll take some patches and updates before Windows 10 is truly ready. I hope that day will come sooner than later, as Windows 10 is a very good OS in its core*. I'll continue to use it as it is today, allowing MS to monitor errors and send feedback as much as I can.

    * The only thing I really don't like is the new start menu. I think switching to XML model was a mistake, it's not as robust as the one before.
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    08-03-2015 02:56 AM
  16. sentimentGX4's Avatar
    So, what do you use instead? IE on W10 has no swipe. They removed it (atleast for my Surface PROs)!
    Desktop Chrome actually has the swipe forward/back gesture. My issue with it is the scanning of the menu/toolbar fonts.
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    08-03-2015 03:13 AM
  17. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    Desktop Chrome actually has the swipe forward/back gesture. My issue with it is the scanning of the menu/toolbar fonts.
    So if you want swipe when surfing with Microsofts new glorious Windows 10 you have to rely on Google (but you will still miss the full screen of modern IE)?
    No thanks, Ill stay with W8.1 for now.
    08-03-2015 04:04 AM
  18. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    How about using it for a few days..actually using it not only stare at the screen. Yes, there are things that don't seem right such as round icons for contacts, facebook not syncing profile on PC, too much white here and there...but to say that it's a wrecked train...it's a little too much.
    I for one like it.
    08-03-2015 05:37 AM
  19. Chirag Bajaria's Avatar
    1. Surface Pro 2 Battery life has TANKED. It's now sub 3 hours and nowhere close to the all day computing experience I had with Windows 8.1. Had a fully charged device last night, put it to sleep overnight and this morning it was down to 11%.
    2. Touchscreen is less responsive, especially with Edge.
    3. Edge pages take forever to load. IE is faster.
    4. Outlook emails don't send - they just sit there in the Outbox.
    5. Surface Pro 2 runs really hot all day.
    6. Bluetooth - turn it off and it turns back on - BY ITSELF.
    7. Bug in Edge - sending replies in Facebook corrupts text.
    8. Notifications in system tray lights up but if you tap it, there are no notifications.
    9. OneDrive app permanently deleted the wrong sheets. Permanently.
    10. The upgrade process was a train-wreck so had to clean install, meaning re-synching 100Gb of OneDrive and eating my data allowance.

    Now I have drunk the Kool-Aid for many years and still promote the products but this to me is worse than Vista and I'm seriously contemplating a roll-back to 8.1 which, after so long in anticipation of 10 makes me sad.
    08-03-2015 07:11 AM
  20. Benjamin Mendez's Avatar
    haha your answer for number 3! hilarious lol
    08-03-2015 07:41 AM
  21. Folfoodle's Avatar
    Why you use windows 10? You're a bitter man!
    08-03-2015 07:53 AM
  22. baandoptager's Avatar
    First day i installed. I could not believe how unfinished it was. I wanted to break my SP3 almost!
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    08-03-2015 10:01 AM
  23. monstervinvin's Avatar
    PHOTOS and FLIPBOARD

    not working as they should be as active on displaying info/photos like before :<

    soo unhappy.
    USING SURFACE PRO 3...
    it's weird since my laptop displays live tiles with ease o.O

    PLEASE HELP
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    08-03-2015 10:09 AM
  24. Josh Hearn's Avatar
    Bug 1 - Edge has so many ads, etc pop up its almost no useable - fixed by edited host file - edge works great now
    Bug 2 - Onedrive wouldn't open or do anything for 4 days and couldn't uninstall or install new version. 50GB of files were saved locally instead of offline/cloud - than magically I could delete those files and run the new version 4 or 5 days later
    Bug3 - My computer stays in constant restart mode after attempting a restart. The spinning wheel just spins and after an hour I unplugged my battery and reinstall and powered on machine - issue still not fixed.

    Way to many bugs on way to many pcs for a OS that's been developed and tested for 12 months or so. Some people in the Microsoft need to be terminated because Apple would never release anything with this many bugs
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    08-03-2015 10:47 AM
  25. JohnIvory's Avatar
    1. Surface Pro 2 Battery life has TANKED. It's now sub 3 hours and nowhere close to the all day computing experience I had with Windows 8.1. Had a fully charged device last night, put it to sleep overnight and this morning it was down to 11%.
    2. Touchscreen is less responsive, especially with Edge.
    3. Edge pages take forever to load. IE is faster.
    4. Outlook emails don't send - they just sit there in the Outbox.
    5. Surface Pro 2 runs really hot all day.
    6. Bluetooth - turn it off and it turns back on - BY ITSELF.
    7. Bug in Edge - sending replies in Facebook corrupts text.
    8. Notifications in system tray lights up but if you tap it, there are no notifications.
    9. OneDrive app permanently deleted the wrong sheets. Permanently.
    10. The upgrade process was a train-wreck so had to clean install, meaning re-synching 100Gb of OneDrive and eating my data allowance.

    Now I have drunk the Kool-Aid for many years and still promote the products but this to me is worse than Vista and I'm seriously contemplating a roll-back to 8.1 which, after so long in anticipation of 10 makes me sad.

    I've already rolled back to 8.1. Made a hard disk image before fudging around with 10 and after 2 days decided that 8.1 was still the way to go. I'll be waiting till the expected October update before giving 10 another shot.
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    08-03-2015 11:29 AM
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