[Chintan Gohel]

Hi,

I'm not sure what the right way is but I'm trying this here.

I believe there are thousands like me who want the Imaging apps to be better and richer and not reduced.

Check this article from the Lumia Conversations page: Streamlining the photo experience in Windows - Conversations: The Microsoft Devices blog

We can see that some imaging apps are going to be discontinued. If you hard reset after October, you won't get these apps back.

I would really like to see Action shot return to camera as well as Lumia refocus get a better site for uploading and viewing images. I know there are others who would want Panorama to be there as well as Photosynth and others.

We need these apps as they are what made Lumia devices stand out

Thank you

Chintan

[Ian_Superfly]

One golden rule for MS should be "Do not remove good stuff Before you have something better to replace it with".
This is extra important for WP/W10M as it already lacks a lot of features...

You can vote here:
https://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...ore-you-have-s

[Ma Rio]

It's just gone. Get used to it. No poll or uservoice request is bringing it back. It's sad on one hand, but on the other I really didn't use any of those apps. Even Photosynth which was totaly crazy. They should really implement as much features as they can into the default camera app, and that will work great.

[Ian_Superfly]

It's just gone. Get used to it. No poll or uservoice request is bringing it back. It's sad on one hand, but on the other I really didn't use any of those apps. Even Photosynth which was totaly crazy. They should really implement as much features as they can into the default camera app, and that will work great.

It's odd to me that MS plans to fight the Android/iOS app-mania with even less apps and features than what they previously lost the war with... ?
Is this some strange fetish for losing they are showing?

[Chintan Gohel]

It's just gone. Get used to it. No poll or uservoice request is bringing it back. It's sad on one hand, but on the other I really didn't use any of those apps. Even Photosynth which was totaly crazy. They should really implement as much features as they can into the default camera app, and that will work great.

I would agree with you if they were to bring back action shot. But they removed that as well as downgrading the quality of the default camera in Windows Mobile 10

[Kram Sacul]

One golden rule for MS should be "Do not remove good stuff Before you have something better to replace it with".
This is extra important for WP/W10M as it already lacks a lot of features...

That would be assuming that the leadership at MS has any common sense or direction. It seems with every poorly thought out move they're telling people to stay away from WP/W10Meh. Such a huge waste.

[Ma Rio]

That would be assuming that the leadership at MS has any common sense or direction. It seems with every poorly thought out move they're telling people to stay away from WP/W10Meh.

I'm seriously wondering what are they thinking about. You know..every other platform has plans to update apps, make them better, get new apps, make the OS comfier. And then there's some guy at MS like - "You know what we should do? NOT update these apps. Yep. That's it."

[NatKingColeslaw]

"Stop being stupid" is rarely the way to get a point across and accepted by the other party.

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[tangledW]

If enough people actually used those apps, they would stay available. Simple as that.
I've removed apps from the store because I didn't have the time to update them, but if they had a large user base they'd still be in the store making me money.

[Zachary Boddy]

Why are people complaining about Microsoft making their software offerings less cluttered and confusing? The majority of people didn't even understand what any of those apps were for and never used them. Microsoft should build more functionality into the default camera application, but we can't fault them for realizing they have dozens of apps no one uses and trying to cull them. Half the issue with Windows Phone app store is the number of apps, the other half is the quality.

[Ian_Superfly]

..... Microsoft should build more functionality into the default camera application, but we can't fault them for realizing they have dozens of apps no one uses and trying to cull them. .....

Yes, they should build this into the default application and THEN, maybe, remove the apps. Not the other way around, it is an absurd way of treating customers.

[mariusmuntean]

ms screw it up big time. look at the windows camera app. it's a dissaster compared to lumia camera, and most phones cannot download lumia camera anymore on win10.


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[libra89]

Why are people complaining about Microsoft making their software offerings less cluttered and confusing? The majority of people didn't even understand what any of those apps were for and never used them. Microsoft should build more functionality into the default camera application, but we can't fault them for realizing they have dozens of apps no one uses and trying to cull them. Half the issue with Windows Phone app store is the number of apps, the other half is the quality.

Agreed. To me, there was just too many. I installed the refocus one before, but I'm about to uninstall it because I don't use it.

[Zachary Boddy]

Maybe Microsoft didn't do it in the right order. But maybe removing those applications was less risky than waiting who knows how long for it to be built into the default application. We can't blame Microsoft unless we know what their thinking is, and we don't. Besides, whining isn't going to change anything.

[slivy58]

If enough people actually used those apps, they would stay available. Simple as that.
I've removed apps from the store because I didn't have the time to update them, but if they had a large user base they'd still be in the store making me money.

More users would be good but I don't see that happening anytime soon, there are too many inconsistencies w/WP, the OS and apps as it stands now, in my opinion, it is stunting the growth of the whole platform (far cry from when I entered the race in 2012 w/Win 8.0), this "does not" (in my opinion) entice people to flock to the platform, hence, small user base.

[Ian_Superfly]

...But maybe removing those applications was less risky than waiting who knows how long for it to be built into the default application....

Please explain

[tangledW]

More users would be good but I don't see that happening anytime soon, there are too many inconsistencies w/WP, the OS and apps as it stands now, in my opinion, it is stunting the growth of the whole platform (far cry from when I entered the race in 2012 w/Win 8.0), this "does not" (in my opinion) entice people to flock to the platform, hence, small user base.

I was obviously talking about the apps, not the platform.

[Zachary Boddy]

Please explain

It takes time to build features into an application. It's possible Microsoft thought that it's priorities right now are slimming down its software offerings and providing a unified, selective collection of software instead of all these applications that no one really uses and just confuses the user. Microsoft may have decided that slimming down these applications too important now to wait for those same features to be built into a single app or into the default camera application, which takes time.
Or maybe Microsoft is already well on their way to incorporating these features, and come October 30th we'll all get a lovely update. Who knows?

[Ian_Superfly]

It takes time to build features into an application. It's possible Microsoft thought that it's priorities right now are slimming down its software offerings and providing a unified, selective collection of software instead of all these applications that no one really uses and just confuses the user. Microsoft may have decided that slimming down these applications too important now to wait for those same features to be built into a single app or into the default camera application, which takes time.
Or maybe Microsoft is already well on their way to incorporating these features, and come October 30th we'll all get a lovely update. Who knows?

But ALL will not get that update (and it might take many months before the carriers do deliver even to those who gets WM10).
And, WHY should they remove anything at all before they have the replacements out there (and accepted)?
It's a mystery to me... ??

And, I do not know if a huge part of us WP-users are so confused that our lives gets better if MS removes apps for us. It’s just absurd.

For me this is just to ask for bad PR. IF they care about their phones someone should be fired for this.

[slivy58]

I was obviously talking about the apps, not the platform.

Totally understood that but unless I am wrong you can't have one without the other, less WP users means less chances for your apps being used.

[kokola]

If enough people actually used those apps, they would stay available. Simple as that.
I've removed apps from the store because I didn't have the time to update them, but if they had a large user base they'd still be in the store making me money.

Link please?

[mestari]

I just don't understand why would they remove lumia camera and replace it with a bad version of it. It's like they want me to ditch windows phone, which i will do. Microsoft has ruined all the amazing things Nokia has done: mixradio, music player, maps, even design (looking at you lumia 950) and the awesome camera. Nokia spent 8 years developing the pureview technology, and just like that microsoft ditched it for crappy windows camera.

[Zachary Boddy]

But ALL will not get that update (and it might take many months before the carriers do deliver even to those who gets WM10).
And, WHY should they remove anything at all before they have the replacements out there (and accepted)?
It's a mystery to me... ??

And, I do not know if a huge part of us WP-users are so confused that our lives gets better if MS removes apps for us. It’s just absurd.

For me this is just to ask for bad PR. IF they care about their phones someone should be fired for this.

First, Microsoft doesn't have to update the operating system anymore to add features like that. The majority of Windows 10 Mobile can be updated through the Windows Store, bypassing carriers.
Second, those applications haven't been removed yet, and won't be until October 30th. That leaves Microsoft almost two months.

[Ian_Superfly]

First, Microsoft doesn't have to update the operating system anymore to add features like that. The majority of Windows 10 Mobile can be updated through the Windows Store, bypassing carriers.
Second, those applications haven't been removed yet, and won't be until October 30th. That leaves Microsoft almost two months.

I do not get it. Do you mean that MS will shoot out W10M bypassing the carriers?
And I still do not get why they have to remove the apps. Why not FIRST release something better and THEN remove the old apps?

[mprebich]

It's odd to me that MS plans to fight the Android/iOS app-mania with even less apps and features than what they previously lost the war with... ?
Is this some strange fetish for losing they are showing?

Speaking of fetishes, I think it is a prerequisite to upgrading to W10M to be a bit masochistic (def. "tending to invite and enjoy misery")

NOTE: this is called humor; please do not chastise me for complaining about W10M when I could just roll back to W8.1 and spare everyone.