11-23-2015 10:41 AM
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  1. Skamath's Avatar
    Thanks for linking your thread, however in that thread you are specifically referring to the launch and this particular thread is about the fall update.
    The common theme here though is the rush. Someone jumps the gun and the rest run away with the bullet and MS has to go through with the messy launch.
    11-16-2015 01:21 PM
  2. editguy's Avatar
    Sorry if I hurt your feelings but Im basing everything off my REAL world experiences and not solely on what "I" read, these are my opinions and "mine" only.

    Furthermore, we own enough of both that we are not basing my" opinions off one instance or outcome, not sure what you expect me to say if in my" experiences one fairs better than the other, one in saying MS or Apple.
    You clearly implied that no one would have problems upgrading OSX, when clearly many people do and always have. I have dealt with far more Apple products than you ever will. I run a high school Mac lab and we have had many problems with WiFi, freezes, upgrades, etc. And the big selling point to Macs is that they make the hardware and the software so there will be no problems. Rubbish. Once again, stop the FUD.
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    11-16-2015 01:46 PM
  3. sa56g's Avatar
    My PC with Windows 10 (July version) was in U.S. English (and had been since Windows 7 Enterprise), with Chinese Simplified as a second editing language. After update, it became Chinese Simplified, with the U.S. English language pack "not usable", so no way to switch back. Re-installed twice, with same result. Can't really handle Chinese that well. Can't find way to download the .cab file for U.S. English. How?
    11-16-2015 10:27 PM
  4. diktea's Avatar
    I'm assuming you are trying to a fresh install here, wiping files, programs etc.?

    Did you "upgrade" to W10 at some point previously as that is the prerequisite, otherwise it's unlikely you will be able to successfully activate after a fresh install?

    My understanding is that upon upgrading the info pertaining to your PC is uploaded to the cloud, after that it should recognise said PC via online after doing a complete refresh.
    1. I had upgraded windows 8.1 to windows 10 before everything was fine and I retrieved the keys of both version (its SIngle language edition).
    2. When i try to update (to fall update) the windows update reaches 94% (not sure) and says error. So i downloaded the ISO version of the update through the Media Creation Tool (i didnt click the upgrade button).
    3. I extracted the ISO and started installing when the screen i had posted above asked me for the windows key. both the cases the keys of either 8.1 or 10 is not accepted and there is no option for skipping the dialogue box. (tried many times all same result)
    4. So i create a bootable USb and boot from there when I tried to upgrade from the bootup version it says something like... the media installation has started please restart your computer normally after pulling out the USb drive and continue the installation... (which does not lead me anywhere or am i missing something in this regard)
    5. i then now fresh installed the windows 10 threshold2. on the process i found that the 'pro' and 'home' versions were there. SO i chose the Home version as my computer was home single language version. now when it asked me for the windows key the keys i have did not work... so i said i do not have product key and continued with the installation by formatting the C drive fully.
    6. Now It does not want to be activated in everyway possible i tried. online, phone... and the curious thing is that. when i entered my windows key (w10 key) for activation at this time.. it gives me error code = 0xc004f014
    7. I talked to Microsoft rep. who said he could not help me. So i am back to square 1
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    11-17-2015 04:43 AM
  5. bucfan11's Avatar
    1. I had upgraded windows 8.1 to windows 10 before everything was fine and I retrieved the keys of both version (its SIngle language edition).
    2. When i try to update (to fall update) the windows update reaches 94% (not sure) and says error. So i downloaded the ISO version of the update through the Media Creation Tool (i didnt click the upgrade button).
    3. I extracted the ISO and started installing when the screen i had posted above asked me for the windows key. both the cases the keys of either 8.1 or 10 is not accepted and there is no option for skipping the dialogue box. (tried many times all same result)
    4. So i create a bootable USb and boot from there when I tried to upgrade from the bootup version it says something like... the media installation has started please restart your computer normally after pulling out the USb drive and continue the installation... (which does not lead me anywhere or am i missing something in this regard)
    5. i then now fresh installed the windows 10 threshold2. on the process i found that the 'pro' and 'home' versions were there. SO i chose the Home version as my computer was home single language version. now when it asked me for the windows key the keys i have did not work... so i said i do not have product key and continued with the installation by formatting the C drive fully.
    6. Now It does not want to be activated in everyway possible i tried. online, phone... and the curious thing is that. when i entered my windows key (w10 key) for activation at this time.. it gives me error code = 0xc004f014
    7. I talked to Microsoft rep. who said he could not help me. So i am back to square 1
    You can simply skip where it asks you for a key (It asks for it twice). Once you log in on your MS account. It will automatically activate. (If it is the same machine and was activated before.)
    11-17-2015 07:22 AM
  6. Kimberly Bennett2's Avatar
    John, I updated my desktop PC last night and experienced the same exact problem. Desktop image and start screen image was a black screen. A "critical error" message popped up about the start screen not working. If you find a solution for this problem, please let me know. Thanks!
    Same here! Difference is I never got a "critical error" message, just the black screen. I ended up reverting to Windows 8.1 after every other fix failed and I am really nervous about even attempting to install 10 again.
    11-17-2015 08:24 AM
  7. Skamath's Avatar
    after fall update the speakers don't work. When I try to restart it went into a boot loop and finally got it to load wind0ws but still no sound.
    11-17-2015 01:10 PM
  8. ajj3085's Avatar
    Have you considered its something screwed up on your computer that is causing issues?
    11-17-2015 08:40 PM
  9. ajj3085's Avatar
    Not just any PC, I'm comparing "multiple " Windows devices (10+), right now I'm fairing a tad better than the initial install of W10 months back, down to a 65-70% failure rate w/Fall Update compared to my previous 90%. Pretty disappointed we are going through a similar routine considering 10 was already installed and each had their bios/drivers/etc. supposedly updated to be W10 compatible, in some case the upgrade turfs certain drivers and makes one research/reinstall to rectify, not quite getting that mentality Yeah and some say not MS fault, sure.

    I think one of my main beefs is the fact, in my case, W10 has been a friggin pain getting it to install and to top that off, little if any info is relayed as to why, you can usually work with something if it is there but when it is not, highly unlikely.
    Windows device means any old pc running windows 10. A more fair comparison would be seeing how it goes on surface pro tablets or surface book, the only hardware ms actually makes.
    11-17-2015 08:47 PM
  10. Axel Ridd's Avatar
    Guys I made it with update. A tip for those who have small storage tablets: Reset your device to factory settings. It will help you a lot. Then download the update to a USB and along with your SD card help you will make it. And of course after the update delete the old version of Windows and you will have about 6 gigabyte of storage.

    P.S) I notice that after the update the tablet doesn't rotate the screen. I search for the icon of lock screen in action center and it wasn't there. Also the drivers were on device manager. I uninstall them and install them again and still no rotation. Any of you have this problem? If yes does anyone solve it?
    11-17-2015 11:21 PM
  11. diktea's Avatar
    You can simply skip where it asks you for a key (It asks for it twice). Once you log in on your MS account. It will automatically activate. (If it is the same machine and was activated before.)
    As I had mentioned it does not have the skip button... Anyway I reinstalled 1240 from my cm activated it and updated it through windows update all fine now. But it just means I used up around 5-gb for this update alone and at least two days of tension
    11-18-2015 01:35 PM
  12. paul swann1's Avatar
    I'm just about to give up on W 10. while I am able to download Upgrade to Windows 10 Home, version 1511, 10586, it will not install. I have asked 5 friends with old and new machines, they all say 10586 fails to install. I had issues when I bought office 365 both times installing and installing the update. I needed support to take over my machine to do whatever they had to do to to make it happen. I'm sorry when a software company creates software that even their own software has no idea what to to with it. I had high hopes this 10586 update would fix a whole lot of glitches, however 10586 is just another glitch.
    I'm a avid fan of MS, with a lumia icon, surface2, and of course my PC. Sad to see MS destroying my enthusiasm for their product.

    Very frustrated
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    11-19-2015 11:50 AM
  13. paul swann1's Avatar
    Sorry Emi, I would think that being a computer wizard would be a prerequisite to use MSFT software and OS. I would not think that downloading an update needs a degree on computer science. Sorry for the snark, however your experience seems to be in the minority.

    Bottom line MSFT product, MSFT's responsibility. Poor record, poor sales.
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    11-19-2015 12:08 PM
  14. inabster's Avatar
    For PC with plenty of RAM and space, upgrades usually go smooth.

    My experience with the Intel Compute Stick which is clamoured to be compatible with 10586 is an utter disgrace, so count your blessings.

    All my other devices did indeed upgrade uneventfully (Acer W500, W700, Macbook Air, Dell Dimension 9600...)

    I would suggest those who experience intractable problems to revert to 10240 th1 or Win 8.1 until MS and Intel get their act together.
    11-20-2015 09:28 AM
  15. slivy58's Avatar
    Well there you go...

    The Windows 10 Media Creation Tool no longer has the November build 10586 files

    Microsoft has now confirmed they have removed the files in a statement sent to Windows Central from a spokesperson:

    "The November update was originally available via the MCT tool, but we've decided that future installs should be through Windows Update. People can still download Windows 10 using the MCT tool if they wish. The November update will be delivered via Windows Update."

    Not impressed with MSs "we giveth, we taketh" approach as of the past few months, just tells me they are having a tough time “getting it right” in regards to W10 including the mobile version, and as I’ve stated previously, a stark contrast compared to previous OSs.
    11-22-2015 12:51 PM
  16. inabster's Avatar
    It is because the 10586 th2 install wizard is a monumental flop, so they fell back on providing offline installs to 10240 th1 instead, this is an admission of guilt, if any.
    11-23-2015 10:41 AM
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