1. melocotone's Avatar
    How can a Windows 10 user maintain his sanity?

    I have postponed this kind of posting for many months since I took the unwise decision of converting Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 in my Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga laptop. I had problems with Windows 8.1, the worst of all was the delay of 1 or 2 minutes I had frequently to endure before an open dialog box showed me the contents of a directory in order for me to open a file from any windows application. As this was happening very frequently, I took the decision in August 2015 of upgrading to Windows 10 on this laptop. My decision to upgrade on another laptop with Windows 7 was wisely postponed until later in the future.

    After the upgrade, the problem with the delay with the open dialog disappeared forever, but I got much worse problems of stability. At the time of the upgrade I was developing a file and directory encryption windows application using Lazarus (a Delphi clone). Suddenly, after the upgrade I started getting complete freezes of the computer. This was sometimes happening when I was test running the application. Everything would freeze, no keyboard or mouse reaction whatsoever. The only way out was forcing the laptop to reboot by pressing the on/off button for more than 10 seconds. This happened some 10 times in the course of several weeks, until I decided to close and start again the Lazarus development application more frequently, instead of leaving it open thru 'sleep' or hibernation cycles.

    Another anomaly I found was that after returning from sleep or hibernation I noticed that one or another application would be started, that I had never used, or that open applications would sometimes show up in a different status than the one it initially was, when I initiated the sleep or hibernation action.

    But the worse of all anomalies occurred today for the second time (the first time had been some 4 weeks ago). I woke the laptop back from hibernation and I got the log-in screen. As soon as I moved the mouse or I started entering the password, windows started “talking to me”, describing which key I was entering or describing which text was under the mouse cursor. Absolutely frustrating! I had never asked windows to start talking to me! This is like a virus, a program you never activated starts invading your “windows experience”. After I entered the password I pulled the Task Manager, found the culprit (“screen reader” , “narrator.exe” and killed it). Then I went over to my normal activities, in this case to writing a reply to a Skype message. I was writing the reply and suddenly my screen disappeared and was replaced by the “log-in” screen, asking for the password, and accompanied again by the “virus-like” voice of the “screen reader”, the application that I had killed some minutes earlier. And this time my windows password was rejected repeatedly, thus my only option was to kill windows again, by pressing the on/off button for longer than 10 seconds.

    The pattern I described was the same as about 4 weeks earlier, only that at the time I was writing an email when I got interrupted by the “log-in screen” with the “screen reader” talking to me and the rejection of my password, time and time again. The frustration caused by this Windows behavior is very big. When I am working, I don’t want to be interrupted and impeded.

    Later today, after rebooting, I started looking for a way to prevent the screen reader (narrator.exe) from interfering with my activities. I found the configurations for that horrible program, and found out that Microsoft did not conceive that a user might not want to have that program running at all: there was no “disable” feature. Thus I went ahead and discovered the 4 locations inside the windows directory where that application was located, I changed the ownership of each application (using the properties of each “narrator.exe” file) and renamed them on 2 locations and removed them on the other 2. I hope sincerely that the next Windows update will not again reinstate that horrible “virus-like” application.

    If I compare my experience with Windows 10 now with previous experiences of past windows versions, I must say that the frustration with Windows 10 is only matched with the frustrations I had some 10 years ago with Windows Vista.
    11-13-2015 02:41 PM
  2. neo158's Avatar
    Well your experience is not indicative of everyone, all the machines I upgraded had their compatibility checked before doing the upgrade and were then reset after installing to remove any lingering problems.

    Did you check compatibility beforehand, did you check for updated drivers before upgrading, did you check for known issues with Lenovo. These are simple things that should be done before upgrading critical software like an OS, it doesn't matter if it's Windows, Mac OS or a Linux distro.
    xandros9 likes this.
    11-13-2015 03:04 PM
  3. SonOfDad's Avatar
    I'm going to say if you've decided to upgrade to 10 especially on a tablet sanity has already left the building :D
    11-13-2015 04:56 PM
  4. xandros9's Avatar
    I got a ThinkPad Yoga, no issues.

    I think you should nuke the computer and start fresh, assuming stuff like sfc /scannow don't do much. Especially considering it seems you have serious underlying issues that are still screwing with stuff.
    11-13-2015 05:16 PM
  5. rhapdog's Avatar
    Sounds like you've got something on your system causing problems, and I don't think it's Windows 10. I've never heard report of an Operating System opening and closing random programs on its own, without "something" scheduling them or running stealthily in the background.

    If it were my machine, and I've endured this before, I'd do a clean format of the drive and reinstall, after the appropriate backups and precautions, of course. Like making sure I have all the drivers to reinstall, etc. I'd grab those drivers from a separate computer that I know isn't infected.

    Not saying it is definitely infected, but you may want to run a thorough scan of the system with more than one product. Just don't have them installed at the same time.
    xandros9 and neo158 like this.
    11-13-2015 07:37 PM

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