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12-29-2015 11:13 AM
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  1. Jazmac's Avatar
    That sounds good but...

    ...can you point to things in the review posted in this thread that reveal the reviewer came to his conclusions because he was more familiar with an iPhone instead of a Windows Phone?
    I could but you make my point without assistance from me. Try to be a little less knee-jerk. Maybe you'll answer your own question.
    editguy likes this.
    12-25-2015 04:40 PM
  2. editguy's Avatar
    Heaven forbid that anyone should come into one of these bashing threads and suggest that they're no having problems. It's strongly implicated that you're a liar if you do that. I'm running 10 on a L640 and have experienced no problems. On the contrary, it's refreshing to not be constantly seeing the "resuming" every time I do something on the phone. The truth is that we have no idea how many 950's and 950XL's are having problems. The majority of people don't go onto forums (the exception being Apple) to just praise their devices. They come because they're having some kind of problem. That in no way means that the majority are. The sad thing is that there is very little helpful discourse going on. It's become nothing but a continuous barrage of Microsoft bashing. Yes, I know, I'm just an ignorant fanboy.
    With the recent trend, maybe this site should be renamed Windows Bashing Central.
    anon(123856) and Bobcat665 like this.
    12-25-2015 06:41 PM
  3. mohit9206's Avatar
    Thanks for the link.It was indeed an honest and great review.This is another review which also i also feel is honest and to the point about the Lumia 550.
    wpn00b likes this.
    12-25-2015 09:47 PM
  4. cracgor's Avatar
    Nice review. Thanks for the post. I had the same experience.
    12-25-2015 11:54 PM
  5. EspHack's Avatar
    That sounds good but...

    ...can you point to things in the review posted in this thread that reveal the reviewer came to his conclusions because he was more familiar with an iPhone instead of a Windows Phone?
    anyone following pocketnow knows fisher is a windows fan, he just happens to be a grown up adult that can judge a product objectively, not a fanboy and not a pessimist, just the facts
    12-26-2015 12:45 AM
  6. troylytle's Avatar
    The PocketNow review I saw had Captain two phones complain about a lot of issues that got fixed in a couple more days after the original posting date.
    12-26-2015 01:23 AM
  7. Games Goblin's Avatar
    To anyone thinking that Michael Fisher is "just another tech journalist who is bashing windows phone" - I just wanted to get this out there that he is a Windows Phone fan and loves using Windows Phone. I have been watching his reviews for years and he always says how he likes Windows Phone's UI and aesthetics and even has done some cool vids like his top windows phone apps and such.

    I am sure he must have felt the same pain while filming this review that we have now when watching it.
    12-26-2015 02:27 AM
  8. Steve Adams's Avatar
    I have aLumia 1020 & a Lumia 950 running Windows 10 mobile. they are both runnng fine and I think 10 runs better on the 1020 than 8.1 did.
    Are you using the newest download?
    12-26-2015 05:33 AM
  9. Myster Marz's Avatar
    I agree with this! This is a very disturbing trend now-a-days not just with this, but in the videos game market as well. I love WP, but callling your product a beta product to try and get people to accept the issues it has is such a cheap cop out.
    xandros9 likes this.
    12-26-2015 07:09 AM
  10. Arunabha Goswami's Avatar
    The way I see it, MS realized that there's no way they'll be able to finish development in time, and had two choices - 1.either postpone the release date which, after such a long period without flagships, would enrage everyone, or 2.release it anyway and call it beta which would enrage some while others will be excited just to get a new flagship with a new OS. No wonder they chose the second option.
    Bobcat665 and xandros9 like this.
    12-26-2015 09:22 AM
  11. Zeem Frostmaw's Avatar
    Pretty sure the only people calling it a beta are disappointed fans. MS certainly considers the OS to be a release version.
    JohnBarry2 and Laura Knotek like this.
    12-26-2015 11:57 AM
  12. Sunstorming's Avatar
    I have the 950, not the XL, but I've had ZERO of the issues here. With exception of the lacking apps and app compatibility - which is long known and expected with Windows 10 being so new, respectively.
    I had two friends get a 950. One was coming from a Lumia 822, the other a Lumia 928. Those are some old models. They waited FOREVER to upgrade because they were so excited for, finally, a new Windows flagship phone. They were on Verizon, they switched to AT&T as Microsoft lost all clout with Verizon in the USA. They had been on Verizon for, and this is not an exaggeration, since 1993. That is some dedication right there to stay with Windows.

    Unfortunately Microsoft released a complete mess as they would find out after all their waiting and wanting...

    One returned it for a Galaxy Edge after all the problems with heat, battery, notifications, "resume..." "Loading..." ... The other friend didn't return it as he likes to figure out tech and while will complain about likes the platform too much to leave. Still, every few days I get a message about how he hates AT&T compared Verizon or suddenly and randomly the battery will just dump 25% in an hour for no reason (wifi off, not downloading anything, in standby / playing music) .. he has all the latest updates and whatever.

    I returned my 950 XL cause it was a trainwreck. I don't care if it was release day, its a $700 item after tax and acted like some kid cobbled it together in a basement somewhere. The screen looked terrible on white backgrounds if you tilted it even slightly. The back of it was loose the first time I removed it to add the battery and SIM.

    The 950 / XL release has been a complete clusterfrigg and Microsoft should be ashamed they let something with so many predictable and testable issues out the door. At least I got my $700 back ... my last straw will be the "Surface Phone" ... if that is a mess, I will just leave the platform, which sucks cause I been using it since 2011.
    theefman, Kram Sacul and loribinca like this.
    12-26-2015 12:15 PM
  13. anon(5383410)'s Avatar
    The only issue I have with my 950 is keeping the ladies off me when they see it. The live tiles start spinning, sending them into deep hypnosis. They can't keep their hands off me or my phone. Keep it in your pants ladies. Jeez.
    12-26-2015 12:19 PM
  14. ScubaDog's Avatar
    Yep. The only fault I find in that review is that it is too generous. I won't even grant you said advantages. Which is why I felt I completely wasted my money on a 950 and it now sits on the charger while I have gone back to my 1020, which is better in almost every respect.
    Sunstorming likes this.
    12-26-2015 05:48 PM
  15. artybee's Avatar
    I can honestly say that NONE of those issues are happening on my 950. Sure, I had one app that caused a restart & lag but it was old nonessential lock screen app, uninstalled & back to normal.

    I don't know why I haven't had any of the issues we've all seen reported, but I haven't.
    Yup-had my 950xl for 11 days and seen none of these issues.As a long term Android user it's incredibly smooth and fast and battery life is very good. ( currently sitting on 50 % after 14 hours - mainly on standby with an hours web browsing and emails) . Windows Hello isn't really useable yet and I've seen one crash in that time - plus the apps aren't as fully featured as I've been used to on Android - but overall I'm incredibly impressed. Granted I'm on the latest release, so I'm guessing my timing was fortunate, but it's good to see some innovation in what has become a very staid smartphone market.
    Last edited by artybee; 12-26-2015 at 06:21 PM.
    12-26-2015 06:10 PM
  16. Zeem Frostmaw's Avatar
    battery life is very good. ( currently sitting on 50 % after 14 hours - mainly on standby with an hours web browsing and emails)
    That's parallel with what I'd expect from the battery on my 950, with it only taking serious dips when I'm playing GTA San Andreas. Battery life is very dependant on what apps are sharing data in the background and how often though, can change massively from user to user.
    12-26-2015 06:40 PM
  17. kappatau808's Avatar
    i had the 950xl for a few days and returned it.if they fix all the issues i had i will gladly buy it again
    Sunstorming likes this.
    12-26-2015 10:11 PM
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    HeyCori, xandros9, a5cent and 1 others like this.
    12-26-2015 10:25 PM
  19. HeyCori's Avatar
    It's a shame so many people are having problems with their 950s. I'm running the latest build on my 1520 and my biggest problems are Edge and Groove. Otherwise my W10 experience has been pretty good. l haven't tried out a lot of third party apps since upgrading, though.
    Laura Knotek and a5cent like this.
    12-26-2015 10:47 PM
  20. R0bR's Avatar
    My experience with Windows 10, whether it be desktop or mobile, is that it behaves differently when installed even on the same hardware. My Surface Pro 3 was solid with Windows 8.1 and it has had nothing but problems since upgrading to Windows 10, instability, BSODs, High CPU when idle, overheating and very poor battery life. My 1020 had various issues as well, after 4 complete hard resets each with different results I finally have stability. Went from 3 hours battery life, to multiple crashes, to the phone using all my of my data in my plan even when disabled, to over 24 hours battery and all apps working, no crashes and performance above what I was getting with 8.1.

    I believe the issue is mostly on Windows 10 and less about the hardware which explains the varying experiences on the same hardware between users.

    Edit: There is actually one thing that doesn't work well at all on my 1020, bringing up Cortana and typing something to search takes forever. It used to work instantly on 8.1, now I don't both I just launch Edge and search from there.
    k72 likes this.
    12-26-2015 11:26 PM
  21. muvig's Avatar
    The most frustrating thing on w10m is for me not being able to change phone number labels to my own, those mobile1, work 2 etc
    Games Goblin likes this.
    12-26-2015 11:39 PM
  22. Michael Costa's Avatar
    We have 3 x new 950xl's. Got to say I have no idea why people are complaining, we have certainly found our phones to work well coming off the 1020 and the 930 series of phone... Whilst win10 is not extraordinary it's only works well.. Happy with our purchases..
    HeyCori likes this.
    12-27-2015 12:04 AM
  23. p51mustang's Avatar
    I've had my 950 for a week now, having spent three years on a 920 (8.1 Dev Preview).

    Absolutely loving the 950 and apart from the app gap (and sideloading Here Maps), having no issues others are complaining about. I even installed some of the apps the reviewer complained about in the video and they installed without an issue.

    I suppose I obtained the 950 with my eyes open and did not have unreasonable expections of the OS. Updates to the various apps come out weekly and W10M is constantly improving. Have not even thought of going back to WP 8.1.
    HeyCori likes this.
    12-27-2015 07:32 AM
  24. Sin_Co's Avatar
    I would call it...a work in progress, lol. It definitely wasn't ready. But is it sending me into conniptions? Nope. I'm enjoying my 950 a lot, happy to see them working on updates, and for me, it was a welcome upgrade from my 925 on AT&T and the $149 spent was perfect ;)
    12-27-2015 09:20 AM
  25. chasvs's Avatar
    I watched that review 2 times now and it's dead on. No matter how much we all love Windows 10 phone, it's a buggy mess. For the most part it's good but, app crashes, start menu crashes, battery drain, and most other issues are very common but, happens across devices. Preview and 950/950XL models.

    You cant honestly sit here and say NONE of these issues affected you at all... I know fanboys WILL be fanboys but, there are issues.

    Read through the preview threads and 950 and 950XL threads, 95% of the problems he said are not unknown on here.

    It's no longer a beta, all these issues should of been resolved before these models were released.
    Which is why I've taken a break for the next year and switched to an iPhone 6sPlus. That and the fact that I'm on Verizon and can't even get the 950/950XL in the first place. I'm really hoping that next year there will be a Surface Phone and that Verizon will carry it. Then I may be back to my beloved Windows OS but I've got to be honest, the iOS on the iPhone is winning me over day by day. Inmy heart I'm hoping that Windows can produce a device/OS at least as good as iOS on the iPhone. I love the Windows 10 M UI and would really like to be able to go back to it without any compromises!
    wpn00b and loribinca like this.
    12-27-2015 09:31 AM
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