Lumia 520, 720, 820, 920, 1020, 1320 (x20 series) Owners
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Schinwinkwinsky
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I'm really happy to know that I have a mobile with almost tree years of use ( Lumia 820) and Microsoft worked to upgrade its system, but it was not possible. I'm not sad. I'm enjoying the Windows 10. It's a great job what Microsoft is doing to the system. But, Microsoft, please, think more before to make promises. It's not good to you, nether to the system.
To me, Microsoft determined the lifetime of a Windows mobile device.
I'm really happy to know that I have a mobile with almost tree years of use ( Lumia 820) and Microsoft worked to upgrade its system, but it was not possible. I'm not sad. I'm enjoying the Windows 10. It's a great job what Microsoft is doing to the system. But, Microsoft, please, think more before to make promises. It's not good to you, nether to the system.
Re: Lumia 520, 720, 920, 1020, 1320 Owners
I'm running W10M on a 950. My last phone was a 1020.
IMHO while it's always nice to have the latest and greatest, you guys on 8.1 are not missing too much at this point. Unless you want to install buggy, crash prone experience on your old, but currently reliable phone. If W10M is buggy on NEW hardware, I can imagine it will be deadly on old hardware.
At some point in the future, Microsoft will improve W10, while 8.1 will fall further behind the times - at which point you're probably better off upgrading. I just don't think W10 is any better than 8.1 at this point. In areas, it's actually worse.
My two cents.
I'm running W10M on a 950. My last phone was a 1020.
IMHO while it's always nice to have the latest and greatest, you guys on 8.1 are not missing too much at this point. Unless you want to install buggy, crash prone experience on your old, but currently reliable phone. If W10M is buggy on NEW hardware, I can imagine it will be deadly on old hardware.
At some point in the future, Microsoft will improve W10, while 8.1 will fall further behind the times - at which point you're probably better off upgrading. I just don't think W10 is any better than 8.1 at this point. In areas, it's actually worse.
My two cents.
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Again Microsoft does not threat the supporters good. As an owner of a 920 and a 930 and a 800 series phone with WP7 I feel betrayed again. But I stop supporting Microsoft as a platform and lucky me I have a big descision weight within the IT of a major part of the government of our country. Great planning Microsoft just to announce no Windows 10 update for the 920, 1020 and 1320 at the moment we are starting to define the mobile strategy for the next 5 years and software development. Guess what OS we stop supporting stupids.....
Again Microsoft does not threat the supporters good. As an owner of a 920 and a 930 and a 800 series phone with WP7 I feel betrayed again. But I stop supporting Microsoft as a platform and lucky me I have a big descision weight within the IT of a major part of the government of our country. Great planning Microsoft just to announce no Windows 10 update for the 920, 1020 and 1320 at the moment we are starting to define the mobile strategy for the next 5 years and software development. Guess what OS we stop supporting stupids.....
Pacus1x
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I will have the 930 and i'm just wondering if this phone will be left behind just like the x20 series in the next update...
Probably MS could avoid all this negative backlash for leaving behind the x20 series by making this update available as optional and warning about possible problems and other stuff. Setting the expectations too high is not a good idea.
I will have the 930 and i'm just wondering if this phone will be left behind just like the x20 series in the next update...
Probably MS could avoid all this negative backlash for leaving behind the x20 series by making this update available as optional and warning about possible problems and other stuff. Setting the expectations too high is not a good idea.
justmoe40
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ever since they cancelled the android project i have lost all hope for the platform. will play around with my 1020 but my oneplus one stays my no.1 device. maybe i will wait and see what nokia has up its sleeve. i would not be surprised if they shorten the support period for current devices like the 950 series and give up altogether.they make more money selling apps anyway.
ever since they cancelled the android project i have lost all hope for the platform. will play around with my 1020 but my oneplus one stays my no.1 device. maybe i will wait and see what nokia has up its sleeve. i would not be surprised if they shorten the support period for current devices like the 950 series and give up altogether.they make more money selling apps anyway.
monzki
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I really like windows phone and I've owned several phones: 1020, 1320, 930 and 830. But now I am getting tired of MS care about it's loyal customers. I don't think it is acceptable for its customers not to support the x20 with devices at least 1gb of RAM. I don't think it's a hardware issue, really. The slower lumia 435 is a slower device that 820, 920, 1020 and 1320 but still it got supported. Really it's not about those 4 x20 devices are old. The 1320 was launched the same day as 1520 so it's not that old (and 1320 is only slighty faster that 920). Even the 1020 is just half year older than the 1520. Yeah yeah granted the 435 has newer generation chip and also the 830 (which is slightly faster than 920), but win10 overall performance is not acceptable on 830 (at least for me) compared when 8.1 was released. You can debate that 830 has 4 cpu cores and the 4 x20 devices only has 2 cores, I doubt if win10 and most apps consumes more than 2 cores. What is most important here is the single thread performance of the cpu.
What is really disappointing here is MS promised to support 8.1 devices before but I think it is really logical not to support the 512mb devices. That promise gave so much high hopes then in an instance they drop it. That is really frustrating. especially for 1020 owners who are still waiting for the next gen 1020.
Another fact, WP strength is having smooth experience on all devices regardless if you have high-end or low-end phone. Well win10 is becoming like the old Android where to get at least smooth performance you must get a higher end device. I am currently using Lumia 830 and I don't think its cpu is really that slow but win10 overall performance is poor (even with hard reset). I think MS just don't have time to optimize win10 yet at the level close to 8.1 (maybe in future releases).
I have two iPad 2 which are older than 920, but two devices are still running smoothly on iOS 9. What I am saying is that's a great customer support coming from Apple. Yeah iOS 9 was really an optimized iOS7 (which was really slow on older iOS devices, but eventually Apple optimized the OS). I think MS should have done the same way so as not to upset all of the 4 x20 devices. I mean some x20 users have good experience with win10 and some were not. MS should have left the choice to its customers.
I really like windows phone and I've owned several phones: 1020, 1320, 930 and 830. But now I am getting tired of MS care about it's loyal customers. I don't think it is acceptable for its customers not to support the x20 with devices at least 1gb of RAM. I don't think it's a hardware issue, really. The slower lumia 435 is a slower device that 820, 920, 1020 and 1320 but still it got supported. Really it's not about those 4 x20 devices are old. The 1320 was launched the same day as 1520 so it's not that old (and 1320 is only slighty faster that 920). Even the 1020 is just half year older than the 1520. Yeah yeah granted the 435 has newer generation chip and also the 830 (which is slightly faster than 920), but win10 overall performance is not acceptable on 830 (at least for me) compared when 8.1 was released. You can debate that 830 has 4 cpu cores and the 4 x20 devices only has 2 cores, I doubt if win10 and most apps consumes more than 2 cores. What is most important here is the single thread performance of the cpu.
What is really disappointing here is MS promised to support 8.1 devices before but I think it is really logical not to support the 512mb devices. That promise gave so much high hopes then in an instance they drop it. That is really frustrating. especially for 1020 owners who are still waiting for the next gen 1020.
Another fact, WP strength is having smooth experience on all devices regardless if you have high-end or low-end phone. Well win10 is becoming like the old Android where to get at least smooth performance you must get a higher end device. I am currently using Lumia 830 and I don't think its cpu is really that slow but win10 overall performance is poor (even with hard reset). I think MS just don't have time to optimize win10 yet at the level close to 8.1 (maybe in future releases).
I have two iPad 2 which are older than 920, but two devices are still running smoothly on iOS 9. What I am saying is that's a great customer support coming from Apple. Yeah iOS 9 was really an optimized iOS7 (which was really slow on older iOS devices, but eventually Apple optimized the OS). I think MS should have done the same way so as not to upset all of the 4 x20 devices. I mean some x20 users have good experience with win10 and some were not. MS should have left the choice to its customers.
Chintan Gohel
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Agree with you, I'll continue running W10M on my 1020 until the phone fails completely and I'm forced to get a new phone. And that new phone has to be as good as the 1020 in terms of camera
Agree with you, I'll continue running W10M on my 1020 until the phone fails completely and I'm forced to get a new phone. And that new phone has to be as good as the 1020 in terms of camera
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it is the same as the OTA update
I have been running insider on my L830 for months now
the last 3 updates have been very stable
Why not install insider and get the .167 update
it is the same as the OTA update
I have been running insider on my L830 for months now
the last 3 updates have been very stable
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so microsoft just used us to build W10 mobile and after its compeletion the ditched us.:angry::angry::angry::angry:
so microsoft just used us to build W10 mobile and after its compeletion the ditched us.:angry::angry::angry::angry:
Re: Lumia 520, 720, 920, 1020, 1320 Owners
so microsoft just useed us to build W10 mobile and after its compeletion the ditched us.
so microsoft just useed us to build W10 mobile and after its compeletion the ditched us.
farhanaxiq
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I was an owner of a 625 (I gave it to my dad). Back then I was already leery that my 625 might not get the update because of the S4 processor. I would be thrilled if they reconsider but I won't be so down if they don't.
I do wonder about the non-ms/nokia phones eligible for the insider like the lancet and especially the m8 or even the ATIV SE. Maybe there MIGHT be a second wave, but only for other phones.
I was an owner of a 625 (I gave it to my dad). Back then I was already leery that my 625 might not get the update because of the S4 processor. I would be thrilled if they reconsider but I won't be so down if they don't.
I do wonder about the non-ms/nokia phones eligible for the insider like the lancet and especially the m8 or even the ATIV SE. Maybe there MIGHT be a second wave, but only for other phones.
slivy58
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Simple, I am now gun-shy LOL.
Tried some earlier builds on my 1020/830 and the outcomes were less than stellar, got tired of the constant resets, restores etc in hope of getting the combination that brought fourth stability, never did so we reverted back to W8.1 each and every time just for peace of mind.
It?s my understanding many older phones need a FW update to resolve some issues that an OS update can?t, waiting to see if such is the case with my 830 before again taking the plunge.
Glad to hear it is working for you but then that brings up another point, the past showed way too many inconsistencies in the OS in that the level of success/fail between same/similar devices varied greatly, what I experience on my 830 could be totally opposite from yours, maybe that has changed but the sour tastes from the past keeps me from being convinced.
Simple, I am now gun-shy LOL.
Tried some earlier builds on my 1020/830 and the outcomes were less than stellar, got tired of the constant resets, restores etc in hope of getting the combination that brought fourth stability, never did so we reverted back to W8.1 each and every time just for peace of mind.
It?s my understanding many older phones need a FW update to resolve some issues that an OS update can?t, waiting to see if such is the case with my 830 before again taking the plunge.
Glad to hear it is working for you but then that brings up another point, the past showed way too many inconsistencies in the OS in that the level of success/fail between same/similar devices varied greatly, what I experience on my 830 could be totally opposite from yours, maybe that has changed but the sour tastes from the past keeps me from being convinced.
Nikhil Jaiswal
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Right. I too own 1320 and have tried every built they released.
Sad they aren't providing the Upgrade.
Right. I too own 1320 and have tried every built they released.
Sad they aren't providing the Upgrade.
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Microsoft must be on crack. Their whole platform is a mess and on top of that they are excluding the bulk of their user base from receiving updates. Just like WP7 all over again, only this time they are blaming RAM ...
They should port WinRT (and Universal Apps) to Android. Better yet get out of mobile entirely. Just blows my mind that they did not learn from WP7!
Microsoft must be on crack. Their whole platform is a mess and on top of that they are excluding the bulk of their user base from receiving updates. Just like WP7 all over again, only this time they are blaming RAM ...
They should port WinRT (and Universal Apps) to Android. Better yet get out of mobile entirely. Just blows my mind that they did not learn from WP7!
VSparxx
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Yes, it's possible to get unofficial redstone upates for the phones left out, there is a thread on XDA about that.
Yes, it's possible to get unofficial redstone upates for the phones left out, there is a thread on XDA about that.
Re: Lumia 520, 720, 920, 1020, 1320 Owners
it is not bad
wp8 was released 6 months after lumia 900
it is not bad
wp8 was released 6 months after lumia 900
Chintan Gohel
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Here is my view which is similar to some other posters on this thread
Our devices are old, no denying that. Even if we bought them a year back, they are still old in terms of hardware.
Realistically, how long can we expect our hardware to run as expected? Haven't some of you replaced batteries or screens or motherboards?
I am really careful when using my phone, wrist strap is always there, never fallen onto the ground, have a protective hard cover.
Lets say for example that Microsoft does decide to offer W10M to our devices. What will be the next step? Redstone build which might not run as well since there will be more features. At some point the latest W10M version will not be able to run at all on our devices.
Right now we have the option to have W10M through insider program albeit only as far as 10586 builds go. We won't get redstone for sure. By the time redstone does arrive, it would be late 2016. So how many years will our devices have functioned? Mine is nearing 2 years now and it's still going strong.
So lets take what we can and continue with it. If W10M does indeed prove to unstable for our phones via insider, then we have a few choices
Get a new windows phone : 550, 650, 950, 950xl, nuans neo, elite x3, alcatel idol, fierce, surface?, sony, etc. There are so many that have released.
Stay with our phones with the 10586 builds if they are stable and keep using until something conks out completely. Apps would still work on 10586, right?
Get a phone that can be upgraded to W10M like the 640 or 930.
Go back to 8.1 and continue using that until the phone hardware crashes or the apps become a pain to use
To be realistic, people still having their phones for 3 years know how to take care of it and will do so for a year or two more. Or you're like me and will only change phones when something better comes along, phone dies, saving money to buy a new phone or will replace if our phones get stolen
Not getting the official upgrade does not mean our phones will stop working. Nothing like that
Here is my view which is similar to some other posters on this thread
Our devices are old, no denying that. Even if we bought them a year back, they are still old in terms of hardware.
Realistically, how long can we expect our hardware to run as expected? Haven't some of you replaced batteries or screens or motherboards?
I am really careful when using my phone, wrist strap is always there, never fallen onto the ground, have a protective hard cover.
Lets say for example that Microsoft does decide to offer W10M to our devices. What will be the next step? Redstone build which might not run as well since there will be more features. At some point the latest W10M version will not be able to run at all on our devices.
Right now we have the option to have W10M through insider program albeit only as far as 10586 builds go. We won't get redstone for sure. By the time redstone does arrive, it would be late 2016. So how many years will our devices have functioned? Mine is nearing 2 years now and it's still going strong.
So lets take what we can and continue with it. If W10M does indeed prove to unstable for our phones via insider, then we have a few choices
Get a new windows phone : 550, 650, 950, 950xl, nuans neo, elite x3, alcatel idol, fierce, surface?, sony, etc. There are so many that have released.
Stay with our phones with the 10586 builds if they are stable and keep using until something conks out completely. Apps would still work on 10586, right?
Get a phone that can be upgraded to W10M like the 640 or 930.
Go back to 8.1 and continue using that until the phone hardware crashes or the apps become a pain to use
To be realistic, people still having their phones for 3 years know how to take care of it and will do so for a year or two more. Or you're like me and will only change phones when something better comes along, phone dies, saving money to buy a new phone or will replace if our phones get stolen
Not getting the official upgrade does not mean our phones will stop working. Nothing like that
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