511pf
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My Lumia 830 with 14295 is such a mess that I'm also going back to WP8.1 in an effort to get back to the production WM10 build. Disappointing.
I'm a bit confused... "Slow" shouldn't have the latest preview version, right?
So why does it have this version; along with "Fast"?
I feel the same way. I got my first couple of 10586 builds on fast ring and then the latest 10586 I had to switch to slow (made no sense). Then while on slow just a few weeks later Insider tried to push a Redstone build on me (few days ago) so I had to switch to "preview" which is now labeled for the 10586 builds. That's three tiers jumping around just to stay concurrent 10586.
Its truly is going to cause people hassles and was irresponsibly handled by MS. This was my experience on a Lumia 1520.
So "Slow" is just second in line, then; rather than a 'safer' build of the preview.
I want preview updates, specifically because my (former) carrier still hasn't pushed out W10, but I do not want bug-ridden releases. If I were that kind of tester, I'd of selected "Fast."
If I switch to "Production" (by my understanding) I'm stuck on whatever version of W10 I have, until my original phone provider rolls out 10. That sucks.
A little confused.. am I SOL about switching back to slow ring, I exited the program with no chance to re-enroll, type of thing?But if you switch to Production while being on Fast or Slow ring builds in this case Redstone, then you'll have to wait till official build comes to Production ring.
It was all explained pretty nicely by Microsoft, and Windows Central has articles about Insider builds releases and rings. Redstone was pushed through Fast ring first only to Windows 10 phones that shipped with Windows 10, like Lumia 550, 650 and 950/950XL, while .586 cumulative updates were released to Slow and Preview rings. After Windows 10 Mobile official launch, Insiders are able to download Redstone in Fast and Slow builds on devices that didn't originally come with Windows 10 Mobile. If you want to roll back to 586, downgrade to 8.1 and use either Upgrade advisor or Insider with Preview Ring selected.
Maybe in your perspective it was laid out clearly, but in real world use it's not smooth. When I jumped in fast ring last fall I got two consecutive 10586 builds. Then after hearing about a new one I had to go research why it didn't show up. No matter how you explain it I've jumped three rings in three months or so to stay on 10586 trying to avoid buggy Redstone. If that's not the definition of a not consumer friendly strategy I don't know what is. It leaves the consumer too married to the process and chasing moving targets. Gotta be a better way.
I think the best thing for all would be a true stop gap before the download begins on any build. Give people a chance to hesitate and ask questions before moving forward. Give us a chance to change rings. Wanting the access to these builds does not mean I want to give up total control. Rolling back after people got stuck with something that was not quite expected is such a poor solution these days. Would it be sooo much trouble to hit the update button and our phones display "The build xxx is available, to proceed click here, if you don't want to proceed right now click there and to read release notes click here". I had to do a semi soft reset midstream downloading of Redstone x.1000 to stop it.
Just ranting..... Ignore me ☺
WHY you joined Insider Program if you don't want to follow Program instructions???
ANd without reading offcial releasing news?
Jumping between rings if one of the testing parts, depending on what build you choose to test
Exit program, act as a common customer!
Meh, don't mind the niggles that come with a preview release but it's just annoying when I elected not to have such builds delivered to me. Sucks being a WP user right now. Still no "official" update out there and WP8.1 is ancient now so there is no choice but to move on, except for the lack of stability with the insider preview.
That iPhone is looking a lot better now. If only it had half the design intelligence of WM and wasn't so darn boring.
After many tries to control my urge for red-stone and stay on the safer greener .164 build, Last night I opted for the slow ring on my L640 LTE. Damn it! my phone is a mess now! No cellular data! phones locks up for no reason. phone app not opening! message apps not popping up! If I try the action center pull down, the phone gets stuck!!!
Why MS push a build so broken into the slow rings?
Same here, unable to install any app from store, store gets hanged, camera app crashes, unable to update any app :unhappysweat: