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  1. order_66's Avatar
    Well let's see,

    Forced updates and the whole rolling release model needs to be abandoned, as it stands Microsoft can force any and all bad decisions, remove and install anything they want at any given time and the consumer has no choice but to accept it.

    Spying, give an opt-out.

    My desktop is not a cell phone, UWP needs to be abandoned altogether, it’s weak, dumbed-down to the level of a cell phone os.

    Remember folks, windows 7 is still being used by the majority of windows users today and that's not going to change anytime soon because of the reasons I just mentioned.
    agmsr and ad47uk like this.
    12-28-2017 09:59 AM
  2. Biff Henderson's Avatar
    Toast notifications that fly out from the lower right are at a higher z-order than dialogs that are presented when clicking on the task icon near the clock.

    I have to wait for the notification to withdraw or click on the > to get it to withdraw before I can interact with the dialog for the task icon.

    Annoying while trying to eject a series for external drives as the eject toast appears over top of the eject dialog.
    Pneen and Rafael Marcondes like this.
    12-28-2017 10:01 AM
  3. Simmo_2000's Avatar
    My biggest pet peev is the start menu. Why only 1 folder deep?

    I have a Gog.Com folder with 300 read me.txt, 100 graphics setup Wizard, 300 manuals, plus all the game launchers and any other files, instead of a gog.com and then a folder with the name of the game. The start menu on windows 7 was around 2 pages long, on windows 10 it is around 50 (that's using the full height of the screen for the start menu), this would shrink again down to 2 pages with the introduction of a 2nd level of folders.

    At work we use a program called aspentech (manufacturing system), which on windows 7 had sub folders of various names containing all the relevant parts of that sub programme. Now all these sub folder are spread around all over the start menu.

    It's just so messy, and the annoying thing is if you navigate in file explorer to the hidden path for the start menu, it is all nicely separated with proper folder structures.

    Yes I can always do a search, but sometimes you just can't remember what it is you need eg afwtools really screams out aspentech security server settings!

    Of the few people with windows 10 at work, this is there biggest complaint.

    Rant over!
    12-28-2017 10:14 AM
  4. kingtigre's Avatar
    Counter point. I would like to see a large scale adoption of UWP. As the most used OSes in the world are now smart phone OSes, the userbase is already prepped and ready for these types of apps.

    I personally give preferential treatment to apps developed on UWP as I enjoy the ease of use, lack of bloat, and easy updating.

    I use Polarr over Lightroom
    I use Sketchable over Photoshop even though the later is the industry standard that I've been using for over 20 years.
    I use Windows Mail over Outlook 2016

    I would like to see UWP expanded to allow for more advancement and improvement.

    Of course, I use Windows 10 almost exclusively in tablet mode, so I'm clearly mad as a hatter.
    agmsr likes this.
    12-28-2017 10:29 AM
  5. soulcancer's Avatar
    How it sucks at syncing to Android. No Maps app (can't search on PC and send to phone), no Photos app (can't see your albums), no People app (outlook people app is just terrible with Android in every way) no Movies & TV app ( No reason to rent a movie when I can only watch it at my computer).
    12-28-2017 11:43 AM
  6. agmsr's Avatar
    What bothers me is the design of many Windows 10 apps. The Windows 8/Metro look has always been extremely unappealing to me (blocky layout, primary colors, too much "white space"). I've stuck with Google and other web apps because they are faster, very functional, and I like the Material design.

    I do use the Windows Mail app for a couple of accounts, and it's better looking than most Win10 apps, but one odd thing is the behavior of the reading pane. I have to click on an email to make it show; otherwise the pane is blank. Seems like an odd decision (why not have it always appear?), and it doesn't seem to work fluidly.
    ad47uk likes this.
    12-28-2017 11:58 AM
  7. ScubaDog's Avatar
    My list is far too long to ever be addressed. W10 is horrible on touch devices because Microsoft has stupidly gone to using really tiny wireframe icons and too many things require using a mouse instead of functioning easily with touch. And you can't stay in tablet mode when you have more than one screen attached, which is also stupid.
    12-28-2017 12:35 PM
  8. Wevenhuis's Avatar
    Working with Windows 10 I keep running into things that would be super easy to fix but that are somehow never addressed. These don't seem to float to the top of the Feedback Hub either, so why not list them in a thread and hope that MS sees them.

    All I want for Christmas is for Microsoft to fix these..

    - start the People app. The search box is not active! d'Oh!! You have to hit 'tab' six times, or mouse all the way over to the search box and click before you can start typing. SUPER easy to fix.

    - hitting the Win key and typing a name, Cortana doesn't search contacts. d'Oh! Why on earth are contacts not worth searching?

    - In mail when I get ten photo attachments I want to open the first one, and swipe to the next one. That doesn't work, instead we need to open and close each image individually. Easily a weekly annoyance.

    - minor gripe: Hitting Winkey-S and typing 'remind me to start a thread at noon' nicely shows the reminder I want to make, but I can't just hit enter to complete setting the reminder. I need to hit tab five times and hit enter.

    - using Cortana to set a reminder, and then mouse-clicking the time field we get a touch control to change the time. This is cumbersome to use with the keyboard. Please allow us to type in the time field directly (as well).

    - Hitting the Win key to open Start and doing anything other than typing immediately disables the search-as-you-type option. Example, hit Win, then touch-pan the start menu, and then type. At this point nothing happens. Why disable typing?

    - The surprise Cortana web search. Type "remind me to <something embarrassing> at 1 pm tomorrow". Cortana struggles, and boom, your private request is sent to bing.com. I really want the web search put behind a button, or at least add a toggle to disable web searches by Cortana.

    OK, those are my gripes for now, anybody else have Win10 annoyances that are easily fixed?
    I've been wondering the same thing these last three years in insiders, despite feedback. It's like they get lost in translation. There are so many!

    For me many gripes are with a lack of fit and finish of the tablet experience.

    -two snapped apps in tablet mode, landscape orientation still won't rotate to portrait mode automatically. I have to toggle desktop mode, then rotate the device, then reengage tablet mode. Crazy!
    -Many app are not snappable left or right in tablet mode with touch. I actually have to use the long press (=right click mouse) to open the context menu to choose place left or place right to snap them. A mouse gesture for touch input. Crazy!
    -In tablet mode we still can not snap apps vertically, currently only horizontally. This makes multitasking in portrait orientation unusable often for certain app combo's, due to the narrow widths of the apps.
    -For many apps I can't drag and drop explorer into one snap and then a second into the other. Explorer always wants to stay fullscreen when snapped first. I often first have to snap the second app first in place, before snapping explorer. Frustrating.
    -windows search is often not active when I want to start typing in tablet mode. I have to press windows search twice (windows key + text box) to start typing directly. In windows 8 this happened effortlessly all the time. Strange to see access to search work less ideal in windows 10 than 8.
    -In windows 8 we can edit multiple live tiles. In windows 10 we still can't after 3 years.
    -I saddened we can't customize/personalize live tiles any more than the current limits of themes and a few minder tweaks in settings. Ik think in windows 10 consumers and end users should be allowed to personalize live tiles to a greater degree. Live tile customization is left at the control of the developers, but I think more controls should have been there, at the control of the end user, from the start. Live tiles 2.0. For me this was easily the next step, coming from windows 8 and windows 10 mobile. Things like control of tile color, transparency, hue and text size of all live tiles should have been there.
    -A major annoyance is that there still aren't more Cortana languages and supported regions. Cortana is being updated in features, yet many people don't or can't use them for the more basic reasons.
    I could go on, but will stop here.
    Joe920 likes this.
    12-28-2017 12:49 PM
  9. WinOMG's Avatar
    Ok so in the personalization options in Settings you can choose to change the accent color based on the desktop background. If you have a slideshow, the color will change along with it. So whenever the color changes, all File Explorer windows refresh and the scroll bar goes back to the top. Super annoying.
    It also bothers me how context menus are so unorganized. The fact that they let developers add buttons to it makes it horrible as developers are not consistent. I wish that MS would treat all context menu entries differently and have them display under one area grouped together instead of all over the context menu.
    Joe920 likes this.
    12-28-2017 01:20 PM
  10. Chris Turek's Avatar
    Edge was fully functional and worked really well in the Creator's Update. Something they did to it in the Fall Creator's update has made it extremely inferior to Chrome. It stays on top of other windows wherever it is, unless I minimize it, it can't handle most video streaming formats anymore, it's slow to open links, it doesn't let me upload to Facebook, it doesn't do anything after pasting a link and pressing enter in the address bar, etc. The only reason I use it anymore is because I want these bugs to reappear so I can report them in the feedback hub so they get fixed.
    12-28-2017 03:17 PM
  11. Chris Turek's Avatar
    Toast notifications that fly out from the lower right are at a higher z-order than dialogs that are presented when clicking on the task icon near the clock.

    I have to wait for the notification to withdraw or click on the > to get it to withdraw before I can interact with the dialog for the task icon.

    Annoying while trying to eject a series for external drives as the eject toast appears over top of the eject dialog.
    That's why my PC has been on quiet hours for the past year. I can't stand opening my laptop and getting bombarded with notifications. If I see that I get one, the action center icon fills white and I click on it. Makes things much easier.
    12-28-2017 03:19 PM
  12. Chris Turek's Avatar
    Ok so in the personalization options in Settings you can choose to change the accent color based on the desktop background. If you have a slideshow, the color will change along with it. So whenever the color changes, all File Explorer windows refresh and the scroll bar goes back to the top. Super annoying.
    It also bothers me how context menus are so unorganized. The fact that they let developers add buttons to it makes it horrible as developers are not consistent. I wish that MS would treat all context menu entries differently and have them display under one area grouped together instead of all over the context menu.
    I have this same setting and I've never had an issue with file explorer losing my place when the color changes.
    12-28-2017 03:21 PM
  13. Saskat's Avatar
    Please do not automatically put OneDrive under This PC.
    12-28-2017 03:38 PM
  14. Ron Gramann's Avatar
    How about...

    1) Make Power Settings reliable (e.g. it does what I tell it to do)
    2) Stabilise the network stack so I don't have to reset my adapter every hour
    3) Ridiculous Edge CPU and Memory usage
    12-28-2017 03:44 PM
  15. Freddie Johson's Avatar
    Lack of mobile love thanks to the gutless, visionless, inept, incompetent, pathetic, disgraceful Satya Nadella

    Oh wait..Liar too.
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    12-28-2017 03:49 PM
  16. G4Grandad's Avatar
    Surely Steve Ballmer is more responsible for that than Satya Nadella?
    12-28-2017 04:03 PM
  17. TechFreak1's Avatar
    My pet peeve?

    I covered that in depth in a forum thread already (here: forums.windowscentral.com/windows-10/469471-biggest-flaw-windows-10-a.html#post3726276 - It's condensed as much as possible...) , because it's a combination of elements not a single thing. However for simplification it falls under Microsoft's umbrella of all or nothing approach in combination to their knee jerk reaction to almost everything.

    So I'm not going to go any more detail as I've gone into as much detail as possible without typing a gazillion page novel because even then it wouldn't enough to cover everything I've noticed. People say it's a gift to notice all the mundane things that define the bigger picture as a tester, no it's not.. it's a curse.

    Also to note, to keep this thread on track and not derailed it's about what you personally dislike about W10 not who is to be blamed for xyz.
    12-28-2017 04:20 PM
  18. BanditoTR's Avatar
    Mine doesn't. I actually want it to open in full screen mode but it never does lmao
    12-28-2017 05:34 PM
  19. Groover1971's Avatar
    My biggest pet peeve is when I start up the computer and log in (we have 5 users), it usually logs in two people (me and one other) so when I go to turn off the computer, it warns me that someone else is still logged in. I have to click again after I have already gotten up from the PC so it will continue to shut down. If the other person starts up the computer and logs in, I am usually logged in also and they have to go through the same process.
    12-28-2017 08:07 PM
  20. SDKevin's Avatar
    Can't sync settings if pc on domain. Very irritating!
    12-29-2017 12:10 AM
  21. Joe920's Avatar
    Ah, I was wondering why it suddenly got so busy in here! :)

    https://www.windowscentral.com/chime...ave-windows-10
    12-29-2017 01:34 AM
  22. ad47uk's Avatar
    No way to disable Cortana without using Reg edit or group policies, be nice to put it in the settings, If I was going to use Edge, the extensions I use would be nice, there are some, like Xmarks, but they are not integrated into edge. Stop changing my defaults back to Ms defaults when updating, that is very annoying. Then the normal stuff, like giving us more options in telemetry and updating.

    But my biggest problem with windows 10 is the lock screen, I do not need a lock screen on a desktop.
    12-29-2017 02:32 AM
  23. ad47uk's Avatar
    How about...

    1) Make Power Settings reliable (e.g. it does what I tell it to do)
    2) Stabilise the network stack so I don't have to reset my adapter every hour
    3) Ridiculous Edge CPU and Memory usage
    i get the problem with having to reset my adaptor, it is not every hour, sometimes it is 15 mins apart, other times it can be hours.
    12-29-2017 02:34 AM
  24. ad47uk's Avatar
    Counter point. I would like to see a large scale adoption of UWP. As the most used OSes in the world are now smart phone OSes, the userbase is already prepped and ready for these types of apps.

    I personally give preferential treatment to apps developed on UWP as I enjoy the ease of use, lack of bloat, and easy updating.

    I use Polarr over Lightroom
    I use Sketchable over Photoshop even though the later is the industry standard that I've been using for over 20 years.
    I use Windows Mail over Outlook 2016

    I would like to see UWP expanded to allow for more advancement and improvement.

    Of course, I use Windows 10 almost exclusively in tablet mode, so I'm clearly mad as a hatter.
    i do not see the problem in using normal software to be honest. i do not use any UWP and to be honest i have no interest in using them. I certainly would not stop using better software just because they are not available in UWP.
    i do not see Adobe sticking their software into the store, yes i know they have the cut down versions, but they are a pay once system.

    the photo editing package I use Serif Affinity is now in the store, Serif will not allow people to change over, so even if i wanted to use the MS store version I would have to buy it.

    Not that I am bothered, because once the software is installed it is installed and it is not difficult.

    Windows Mail is awful, I had a look at it and used it for a week and went back to Thunderbird.


    i can kind of understand why MS wants us to use UWP, first of all it makes them more money, it also protects people against rouge software, in theory and the software get updated quickly. But it is not for everyone.
    12-29-2017 02:44 AM
  25. Ray M20's Avatar
    Not limited to W10 but the fact that I live in a country that does not speak English does NOT mean that I speak their language (or want to)!
    Last edited by Ray M20; 12-29-2017 at 06:59 AM.
    12-29-2017 03:25 AM
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