1. Bl4ckSunr1se's Avatar
    As the title states: what happens then?
    Is my ssd locked? Can I still swap it out, clone it, put it in another pc?
    What is the deal with a password that's being stored in hardware? How do I access that?
    06-28-2021 03:20 AM
  2. TechFreak1's Avatar
    As the title states: what happens then?
    Is my ssd locked? Can I still swap it out, clone it, put it in another pc?
    What is the deal with a password that's being stored in hardware? How do I access that?
    In short, nothing (changes are not visible to a user) - unless you enable bitlocker encryption then it's complicated.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...e-windows.html


    The "password" I guess you are referring to is the encryption key so to speak.

    I suggest you check this article here:

    https://www.windowscentral.com/how-use-bitlocker-encryption-windows-10


    As with, make sure you back up your drive before enabling Bitlocker incase something goes awry.

    Good luck.
    06-28-2021 04:56 PM
  3. Bl4ckSunr1se's Avatar
    Well thanks for the reply. So if I understand correctly in order to use win 11 I just flip the TPM switch to 'on' and then I should be able to use everything as before.
    06-29-2021 09:53 AM
  4. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Well thanks for the reply. So if I understand correctly in order to use win 11 I just flip the TPM switch to 'on' and then I should be able to use everything as before.
    Err not so fast .

    You also need to enable Secure boot and Virtualisation in your Bios.

    I would secommend downloading Speccy Portable and getting the name of Motherboard model + manufacturer. Then using this info to locate the exact user manual for your motherboard.

    Which would help you locate where to enable Secure boot, virtualisation and TPM.

    This way you are not poking around the Bios as messing the wrong setting can seriously make things go awry.

    Especially, since Intel and Amd have different names for TPM.

    Intel calls it Platform Trust Technology or PTT and AMD calls it Firmware Trusted Platform Module or FTPM.

    Finally and most importantly it's best to wait in the event your PC doesn't meet the present requirements for W11 in terms of CPU support.


    https://www.windowscentral.com/official-windows-11-requirements-have-arrived-here-are-compatible-qualcomm-amd-and-intel-cpus


    So, here in is the rub - is your PC currently supported?

    Otherwise, other than taking advantage of Core Isolation and built-in W10 virtualisation based security obtained by enabling Virtualisation (which again is called differently by Intel and AMD - ergo why it's best to read the motherboard manual).

    User's don't need to poking into the bios settings.

    Unless of course you need to run a virtual machine for work - although even then most Virtual / VDI / services have browser based services.
    06-29-2021 11:50 AM
  5. Bl4ckSunr1se's Avatar
    Okaaay, well according to the WhyNotWin11 app, it's only the TPM that's preventing me from upgrading. Secure boot is present, but it doesn't say anything on virtualization. But I don't think I need that to run win11?

    I do have the amd 5800x so I already found the setting for ftpm. As for the manual I still have the booklet as I just recently built my own rig. The MB is an asus prime pro x570 which can apparently enable virtual tpm but has also pins for hardware tpm.

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    06-29-2021 02:42 PM
  6. TechFreak1's Avatar
    @Bl4ckSunr1se ooh, nice!

    So, you do know what you're doing .

    I was curious about your remark about virtual tpm on the asus prime pro x570 so I looked up the manuals.

    https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_X570-PRO/E17432_PRIME_X570-PRO_UM_v3_web.pdf


    https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_X570-P/E15829_PRIME_PRO_TUF_GAMING_X570_Series_BIOS_EM_WEB.pdf

    I even checked the asus prime pro-csm version

    https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-X570-PRO-CSM/

    I couldn't find an entry for virtual tpm lol....
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    06-29-2021 05:50 PM
  7. Bl4ckSunr1se's Avatar
    On the subject of TPM: no, I do not know what I'm doing, but I'm a fast learner :p I was just worried that I wouldn't be able to replace/clone and/or place my hard drive in another pc at will.

    I think the ftpm is related to the processor and not the MB if I understand the internet correctly.
    06-30-2021 03:07 AM
  8. TechFreak1's Avatar
    @Bl4ckSunr1se Haha, fair enough. It's fair to say even us folks who perceived to be Techies are also having a hard time scratching our heads around the requirements for TPM.

    Yup, ftpm is AMD's firmware level integration / implementation of TPM on the CPU - the CPUs don't have physical TPM hardware. If they did, they would have shown it on the die diagrams, listed on the spec sheet and so on .
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    06-30-2021 03:22 PM
  9. ads13's Avatar
    This would be helpful for Asus mobo owners.

    https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1046215/
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    07-05-2021 05:42 AM
  10. neo158's Avatar
    There is also one other thing that isn't mentioned here, to enable Secure Boot you need to have a GUID Partition Table (GPT) partition style
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    07-31-2021 10:51 AM

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