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  1. Tansen's Avatar
    Wow, had no idea windows+C pulled out the charms bar... The more you know lol.
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    12-09-2013 01:37 PM
  2. smurfercom's Avatar
    Okay I have tried the W8.1 Enterprise evaluation, I think I will just stick with Windows 7 Pro for now.

    - The live tiles did not update by themselves, and I had to open the apps, then close them to see the updated info on the tiles (Weather, News). Especially apps like news, it should really update itself hourly at least.
    - Advertisements in the original Windows apps?? Really?
    - 'Swiping up' the pretty picture lock screen everytime I turn on and unlock my computer?

    Having said that, I installed the 8.1 on my 4 year old laptop and it immediately became more stable, with no overheat. With Windows 7 on there before, it would overheat and turn itself off, but now it's actually usable with the Windows 8.1 installed. So I might actually buy the 8.1 for my old laptop.

    But my work computer does not have any stability issues with Windows 7 to begin with, so I'm sticking with Windows 7 on the main computer.

    It is such a shame because I wanted to have the "unified" look with Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8.1 on my computer, but I just cannot be as productive with W8.1
    Mainly though, I am just shocked to see an advertisement inside an OS that costs up to $200.

    To be fair, Windows 8.1 is perfectly fine for everyday computing and gaming, but for productivity work, I would still go for Windows 7.
    Just get start is back and be done with it. The only time I'm in metro is to play solitaire on my Dell Inspiron. Start is back puts back the start menu and makes 8.1 a productive machine, they just coded what MS took away so no extra process running in the background.
    12-09-2013 01:38 PM
  3. hopmedic's Avatar
    Okay I have tried the W8.1 Enterprise evaluation, I think I will just stick with Windows 7 Pro for now.

    - The live tiles did not update by themselves, and I had to open the apps, then close them to see the updated info on the tiles (Weather, News). Especially apps like news, it should really update itself hourly at least.
    - Advertisements in the original Windows apps?? Really?
    - 'Swiping up' the pretty picture lock screen everytime I turn on and unlock my computer?

    Having said that, I installed the 8.1 on my 4 year old laptop and it immediately became more stable, with no overheat. With Windows 7 on there before, it would overheat and turn itself off, but now it's actually usable with the Windows 8.1 installed. So I might actually buy the 8.1 for my old laptop.

    But my work computer does not have any stability issues with Windows 7 to begin with, so I'm sticking with Windows 7 on the main computer.

    It is such a shame because I wanted to have the "unified" look with Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8.1 on my computer, but I just cannot be as productive with W8.1
    Mainly though, I am just shocked to see an advertisement inside an OS that costs up to $200.

    To be fair, Windows 8.1 is perfectly fine for everyday computing and gaming, but for productivity work, I would still go for Windows 7.
    To say that Windows 8 (or 8.1) is less productive than 7 is to do an injustice to yourself. Live tiles not updating? It could be that this is a limitation of the eval version (I don't know - just a thought). But if not, then something was wrong, and you're judging the OS on a faulty install, which isn't fair. Advertising - yeah, this has been a source of talk in more than one arena... Swiping up the lock screen? Or clicking the mouse, or tapping a key on the keyboard.... That vs Ctrl-Alt-Del (assuming a domain setup - it's been so long since I built my own domain that I don't even remember if it is required on a non-domain setup). What difference does that make?

    Windows 8 is the first OS in history to require LESS hardware than its predecessor. It is more stable, more secure, and it is where the future is going. To deny this is to imprison yourself in 2009. Do yourself a favor and pull the plug.

    And if hotkeys will help, here's just one list of hotkeys for Win8:
    Complete List Of Windows 8 Keyboard Shortcuts [Hotkeys] | WML Cloud
    12-10-2013 12:12 PM
  4. berty6294's Avatar
    My gaming rig runs 8.1 and it is FAST. I have no issues using a mouse on 8.1, using track pad is a little more of a hassle I agree. But I don't suggest using those programs to bring back the start menu, like if you are seriously using one of those than you are just ignorant as 8.1 does the things you need much better than those start menus will!
    hopmedic likes this.
    12-10-2013 12:23 PM
  5. jmshub's Avatar
    The 8.1 update makes Windows 8 even more usable than before on non-touch laptops. Functions like boot-to-desktop and such make the .1 update more Windows-like than Win8 was.
    12-10-2013 12:29 PM
  6. BaritoneGuy's Avatar
    On my Asus Zenbook, the touch pad drivers are finally in a place where most of the touch screen functionality is available via the touch pad. Fro my Dell machine at work I picked up a Logitech T650 touch pad which does pretty much the same thing. At work I can sometimes go for days without even seeing the Modern UI.
    12-10-2013 01:10 PM
  7. iamtim's Avatar
    The live tiles did not update by themselves
    For productivity work, why are you using live tiles anyway? On my Win8 productivity machines I shut the live tiles off specifically because they're distracting.

    Advertisements in the original Windows apps?? Really?
    Which apps?

    'Swiping up' the pretty picture lock screen everytime I turn on and unlock my computer?
    You can also just click the mouse. Or hit enter. Either one of the three are better than CTRL-ALT-DEL to login.

    But my work computer does not have any stability issues with Windows 7 to begin with, so I'm sticking with Windows 7 on the main computer.
    Good plan. If you're happy with Win7 and it's working for you, there's no need to upgrade right now.

    I just cannot be as productive with W8.1
    Sure you can. Like your "swipe up to login" issue, you just have to learn how. Because Win8 caters to both touch and non-touch systems, you really have to optimize your system for its intended use.
    12-13-2013 09:18 AM
  8. Obaydok's Avatar
    Why not?
    Fast speed and optimized for older machines
    12-13-2013 09:31 AM
  9. skstrials's Avatar
    Okay I think I might have been too harsh on Windows 8.1. I ended up getting the W8.1 for my laptop since it started freezing up on me. While you could argue that reinstalling Windows 7 would have solved the problem as well, I thought I should take the benefit of my university student status (which will end in a few months after I graduate) and get the W8.1 Pro at $80.

    So far, I love the live tiles. I set it up for news and weather. I also installed WP Central app, but was disappointed that it does not actually update on the live tile itself. I realized that I only access about 10 programs regularly, I just set up the shortcut for those on the start screen, so I do not even use the app screen that much actually.

    Other than that, Skydrive integration is flawless (which was also the case in Windows 7). And the startup time is a lot faster (even though I disabled the "fast start" option in the settings).

    There are a few suggestions I have:
    1) Having desktop background in start screen is nice, but why not just keep whatever is open in the classic desktop and use that as the background. For instance, if you are using internet or word, when you go to start just show that on the background, (maybe with a bit of shading).

    2) Some apps such as news should work with keyboard arrow keys for scrolling. Thankfully, I have pointing stick on my laptop, and it can replace the lack of keyboard arrow key functions.

    3) Some apps seem to give off notifications even when I am on desktop? For instance, I got notification on the upper right corner from CBC News app that Canadian athletes just won gold medal. It's nice, but I want to have a setting to disable it.

    And lastly

    4) For the apps list on the left side of the screen, why not have an option to "close all" or "close all except for desktop". Of course, you could do alt f4 to close the app everytime, but the app list can start to pile up, and it can be annoying to individually close every app.

    Otherwise, I am pretty happy and I won't be going back to Windows 7.
    02-11-2014 07:44 PM
  10. Joshua Jackson's Avatar
    I currently have a Dell Precision M4700 with Windows 7 Pro, it does not have a touch screen.

    But after using Windows 7 for more than 4 years now, I am getting a bit bored and would love to try a new OS.

    Problem is that my laptop does not have a touch screen, so would you recommend Windows 8.1 on a non-touch laptop?

    The cost is not really an issue since I am a student and I can get a Windows 8.1 Pro for $70 from Microsoft store.
    If you already have Windows 7, and don't have other Windows 8 devices, there isn't much reason.
    I have multiple Windows 8 devices (phone, two tablets, and wife's laptop), so I really am used to the interface.
    It made sense, in that setup, to have Windows 8 on my non-touch laptop.

    Aside from that, I needed a genuine Windows license and it was cheap.
    Hehehe...
    JJ
    02-14-2014 08:35 AM
  11. michail71's Avatar
    I run it on several non touch systems. However, I will take the unpopular opinion that it is less efficient at certain things. I say that while liking it at the same time. But it's only less efficient if you heavily multitask on the desktop. I'm often switching between Visual Studio, SQL Management Studio, Excel, Outlook, ID, Chrome, etc., etc. when I work. Sometimes getting switched to the Modern UI unexpectedly can be jarring in those situations.

    It does shine much better when on a touch system. I would not buy non touch hardware going forward.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    02-15-2014 04:22 PM
  12. ivanrf's Avatar
    why not? it's an old post, it could be updated to win 10, but still... why not?
    08-31-2015 07:37 PM
  13. dupczysko's Avatar
    I`m using Win 8.1 on acer es1-111m netbok. 9/10
    xandros9 likes this.
    10-31-2015 06:37 PM
  14. Ola Rybacka's Avatar
    I don't think so. I'm happy just because of start button.
    11-02-2015 09:26 AM
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