1. anon(8150199)'s Avatar
    I just installed W8.1U1 and I really can't stand the black bar on top of modern app, as well as the right click on the Start Screen. I just want the good ol' one back!
    04-08-2014 11:12 PM
  2. herbertsnow's Avatar
    I just installed W8.1U1 and I really can't stand the black bar on top of modern app, as well as the right click on the Start Screen. I just want the good ol' one back!
    Yeah it is pretty stupid isn't it. I'm not installing this update until I find a way to get rid of all the desktop crap. But my first guess is some hack that would trick the OS into thinking your PC is a tablet. There should be options to get rid of this crap.
    04-08-2014 11:39 PM
  3. iamtim's Avatar
    I just installed W8.1U1 and I really can't stand the black bar on top of modern app
    You realize it auto-hides after a few seconds, right?
    04-09-2014 06:33 PM
  4. anon(8150199)'s Avatar
    You realize it auto-hides after a few seconds, right?
    It looks sick, I just want the old way back (drag from top to bottom)
    04-09-2014 08:18 PM
  5. fwaits's Avatar
    It looks sick, I just want the old way back (drag from top to bottom)
    It hides automatically, and even faster if you click in the window after it opens. Also you can still drag from the top like before if you want to.
    04-09-2014 08:24 PM
  6. iamtim's Avatar
    It looks sick, I just want the old way back (drag from top to bottom)
    ...you still can drag from top to bottom. That hasn't changed.

    Edit: D'oh, it looks like fwaits beat me to it.
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    04-09-2014 08:26 PM
  7. anon(8150199)'s Avatar
    It's no longer Metro-esque, and right-clicking on the start screen looks horrible (compared to the vanilla 8.1)
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    04-09-2014 08:33 PM
  8. herbertsnow's Avatar
    You realize it auto-hides after a few seconds, right?
    I don't want it to auto hide. I want it gone. I want it to sleep with the fishes.
    04-09-2014 08:35 PM
  9. herbertsnow's Avatar
    It's no longer Metro-esque, and right-clicking on the start screen looks horrible (compared to the vanilla 8.1)
    It looks like garbage.
    04-09-2014 08:36 PM
  10. John20212's Avatar
    If you are using touch, you never have to see what you are complaining about; and when you are using keyboard/mouse the functionality is 100x better after update 1. The only thing that needs to be fixed is some of the options so you could fine-tune the bahaviour if you are on hybrid devices like the Surface Pro, where you are frequently switching between keyboard/mouse and touch setups.
    04-09-2014 09:03 PM
  11. anon(8150199)'s Avatar
    and when you are using keyboard/mouse the functionality is 100x better after update 1.
    I'd say the opposite. There's not a single thing that I like in update 1.
    herbertsnow likes this.
    04-09-2014 09:12 PM
  12. herbertsnow's Avatar
    I'd say the opposite. There's not a single thing that I like in update 1.
    In update 2, MS will bring back the useless start menu, clippy, and DOS. To pacify the over age 70 group.
    04-10-2014 12:38 AM
  13. elmacho's Avatar
    I just did a system restore to get back to vanilla 8.1 .Productivity maybe improved but this update still looks like a work in progress.Now,if Microsoft is bringing back the start menu,why did they just ship this now and why is it an update we can`t skip ?
    I feel instead of trying to make the OS run the same way across all devices,irrespective of whether the device is a touchscreen or not,they should, in the next update, check,whether the device is a touchscreen or not and then give a start menu with the start screen functionality(live tiles), taskbar and windowed apps for desktop users and the start screen,modern apps for touchscreen users.
    04-10-2014 04:19 AM
  14. paulsalter's Avatar
    These are my only 2 issues with this update

    Title bar is easily ignored, but would like it gone

    The right click on start menu looks really odd and doesn't seem to stick with any standards in the metro interface, right click in an app it's the old way, no consistency

    personally for me I want the same experience if I use my touchscreen/track pad gestures or if I use the mouse

    These 2 changes look like they where added on as an afterthought
    herbertsnow likes this.
    04-10-2014 11:23 AM
  15. iamtim's Avatar
    The right click on start menu ... no consistency
    Not entirely true... if you were to right-click on the "start button" in the lower-left corner in "vanilla" Windows 8.1, you'd get the same style context menu. It might have been the same in "vanilla" Windows 8, although it was a corner right-click as there was no "start button"; I don't entirely remember, heh.

    Same with right-clicking on a running Modern app in the, eh, left-hand charms/task/app bar, I'm not sure what it's called. But doing so would get the same style context menu there, too.

    So, there is some consistency there.
    paulsalter likes this.
    04-10-2014 11:28 AM
  16. anon(8150199)'s Avatar
    Not entirely true... if you were to right-click on the "start button" in the lower-left corner in "vanilla" Windows 8.1, you'd get the same style context menu. It might have been the same in "vanilla" Windows 8, although it was a corner right-click as there was no "start button"; I don't entirely remember, heh.
    Except that right-clicking the Start button shows stuffs on the desktop.
    04-10-2014 08:57 PM
  17. iamtim's Avatar
    Except that right-clicking the Start button shows stuffs on the desktop.
    ...so? My point was that the new context menu for tiles shares consistency with other context menus on modern elements, like the lower-left corner/start button right-click and the app bar right-click. The design elements and activator of all three of those context menus are the same; they're consistent with each other.
    04-11-2014 10:07 AM
  18. anon(8150199)'s Avatar
    ...so? My point was that the new context menu for tiles shares consistency with other context menus on modern elements, like the lower-left corner/start button right-click and the app bar right-click. The design elements and activator of all three of those context menus are the same; they're consistent with each other.
    The right click on start screen must be a Metro design, but right-clicking the start button should be desktop-esque, cuz they're all stuff for use on the desktop and most people won't have any reason to reach these places.
    04-11-2014 10:19 AM
  19. iamtim's Avatar
    You're still missing my point, try to keep up.

    paulsalter said, "The right click on start menu looks really odd and doesn't seem to stick with any standards in the metro interface..." I pointed out that he's partly incorrect because the right-click on the lower-left corner/start button and the right-click on apps in the app bar - both in the metro interface - share the same context menus and are standards. So there is consistency between the right-click on tiles context menu and those other right-click context menus.

    It has nothing to do with where the options on the context menus go, or what happens when you click one of the menu options; if you right-click a tile on the start screen, right-click the start button, or right-click a running app in the app bar, the context menus all share the same stylistic elements and are consistent with each other.
    04-11-2014 11:42 AM
  20. paulsalter's Avatar
    just to clarify a bit more on what I was meaning earlier (might have worded wrongly)

    If they want a right click with a menu appearing where the pointer is, click the new power button on the start screen, I have seen this menu in other apps and to me this looks nicer than a desktop style menu appearing on modern/metro screen, why did they go for the desktop style with this right click?

    the other thing was, we now get this new menu so why when I run an app do I get the original style option of menus at the bottom, appreciate this could be down to the app developers, but to me this looks odd as it's one way on the start screen and another in the apps

    Understand all that's been said about the menu in bottom left so not repeated that
    04-11-2014 01:33 PM
  21. herbertsnow's Avatar
    Just found out that the latest version of Stardock's ModernMix has an option to disable the title bar. Works great. I don't care much for the other options, so I just turned everything else off. Modern apps in window mode looks like crap. Full screen all always.
    05-11-2014 01:07 AM
  22. Ntropy99's Avatar
    yes, the 8.1u1 is terrible. Everything keeps dropping back to desktop. For the people who couldn't figure out how to use the start screen, then maybe this will help them. My opinion is that this isn't helpful either. I was fine with 8.1 ON MY LAPTOP. I also like it on my tablet. The blackbar at the top is terrible. I want the desktop to close when I am not using it. The start screen should have been developed as the new desktop. Certain Apps close to the Desktop, which wasn't the case before. How is that helpful? I will concede that it took a bit of time to get used to Win8, but this feels like too many concessions backward on my laptop where my tablet is forward progress.
    05-11-2014 01:39 AM
  23. Merrill Nuttall1's Avatar
    I liked Windows 8 and 8.1 just as it was. I hate the Title Bar on LiveTile apps. MS took a step backwards by conceding on this feature. I'm not in the 80's or have any desire to see something like a Mac Desktop Bar. Old....... Has anyone discovered how to slap dumb users upside the head from a desktop. Change is part of life and this was a move for the better. Also, I find that the title bar in the apps is an impediment when trying to close the Window via pull down. I hate that damned 'X' and the any app. Speaking of which, why do we even have a desktop? I never store things on the desktop not do I litter it with every shortcut available. Why would I need the startmenu? Just start typing the name of the program you want and, voila, it appears. Radical isn't it! I never used the Start Menu in either Vista or 7. Microsoft had it right. Welcome to the future complainers... when Apple removes the desktop you'll never hear the end of it....how wonderful it is that they created the 'Magicial' desktop free OS.

    This new feature just annoys the **** out of me. I'd uninstall the update but I've read that you will not receive pertinent updates unless it's running 8.1 update 1. F**K.
    05-11-2014 01:25 PM
  24. caskad's Avatar
    try this:

    search google:

    How do I disable the new title bar in Modern Apps? / bloquer la barre de titre modernUI

    works like a charm!
    10-05-2014 03:33 AM

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