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04-18-2014 02:03 PM
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  1. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    As I've said before. If you work at MS, if you're a product made by MS, or even just MS itself....there is no way to win.

    Hate towards MS has become a trend that's just too fashionable to let go. :P
    Yeah. Apple and Google are seen as cool. Microsoft is seen as this old monolithic company that needs to die and all its employees need to be subject to all manner of torture. Basically MS is the target of all hate. Wouldn't surprise me if next our government starts blaming freak weather on Microsoft (we've already had one group turn around and say gay marriage is to blame for the UK having such bad weather this year)
    04-13-2014 10:20 AM
  2. Blkacesvf41's Avatar
    shhhh, don't post such "hate" lest we hurt microsoft's feelings because wanting options is bad...../s
    lol!
    04-13-2014 10:34 AM
  3. Blkacesvf41's Avatar
    Thanks, going to give that a try, I don't always close apps so will see how it works just always leaving them running

    Hopefully next update will allow people more choice on how Modern/Desktop work
    It works. They're using some memory while they're suspended like that. Another thing I do is that when I shutdown I do it from whatever app I'm in. I bring the charm and shutdown. Never bother to go back to the start screen, so that new power button is meaningless to me.
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    04-13-2014 10:41 AM
  4. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    Yeah. Apple and Google are seen as cool. Microsoft is seen as this old monolithic company that needs to die and all its employees need to be subject to all manner of torture. Basically MS is the target of all hate. Wouldn't surprise me if next our government starts blaming freak weather on Microsoft (we've already had one group turn around and say gay marriage is to blame for the UK having such bad weather this year)
    Just look at areas where I post and the people who obviously try to push my buttons...which then leads to them getting away with it and me being banned repeatedly...because I won't take their bull**** sitting down.
    04-13-2014 10:42 AM
  5. juanitoriv's Avatar
    What would be cool is if we could enable swiping on the desktop IE. I usually use metro IE, but when I do need it in desktop, I always catch myself trying to swipe or hit the back button on the left that's not there.
    04-13-2014 10:45 AM
  6. Blkacesvf41's Avatar
    Yeah. Apple and Google are seen as cool. Microsoft is seen as this old monolithic company that needs to die and all its employees need to be subject to all manner of torture. Basically MS is the target of all hate. Wouldn't surprise me if next our government starts blaming freak weather on Microsoft (we've already had one group turn around and say gay marriage is to blame for the UK having such bad weather this year)
    I said it before and I'll say it again. Most folks who like to hate on Microsoft have no idea that without Bill Gates and Microsoft "Investing" in Apple in the mid 90's, Apple would've gone under!
    04-13-2014 11:22 AM
  7. gedzum's Avatar
    Indeed. I have Windows 7 at work, and it feels so outdated compared to 8.1! When I want to open a new program, I have to either minimize all of my open programs to get to the desktop or search through the Start menu, as opposed to just hitting the Windows key, easily finding my app (which is pinned exactly where I want it so I know where to go), and then continuing on my way. Truthfully the Windows 8.1 workflow only saves about 10 seconds, but that's enough time to break my momentum when I'm "in the zone." The Win8.1 experience is so seamless!
    If you want to minimize all the items on your desktop you can click the space in the bottom right of the screen (next to the time and date). If you have regularly used documents, folders or programs you can pin them to the taskbar and use the jump lists.
    04-13-2014 11:43 AM
  8. yarvelling's Avatar
    These criticisms seem a bit odd... since Windows 8 came out people complained about booting to the start page, about not being able to run apps on the desktop, and that it was clumsy having to drag-sown on the app to close it.
    Now when Microsoft addresses these issues and give us what many had asked for (I was always quite happy with the way it was working), those same people are now complaining about getting what they wanted!!! I LIKE these new additions - they add flexibility and more ease of use.... :)
    04-13-2014 01:27 PM
  9. ChristianKing's Avatar
    I disabled all of the updates that I could, because I preferred the way 8.1 worked. I have a surface and an ultra book with a touch screen. But im happy that these options are there for people that love to work with their mouse and keyboard. I'm not a fan of the bar above the modern apps but hitting an X to close an app is probably more efficient than dragging down with a mouse. So while I still drag, I can't say It doesn't make sense. I think these changes are a bit of a step back and I can't say that im happy at all about that start button coming back, but you have to cater to your users. I think MS got it right with 8.1 but people are just not open to change. Unfortunately their money takes precedence to progress so MS has to listen. Hopefully as tablets become the standard PC, these attitudes and behaviors will change and they will embrace a gesture based computing world. Until then I'll bite my tongue about my desktop loving brethren and grin and bear it. 😊
    04-13-2014 01:51 PM
  10. rdubmu's Avatar
    On my surface pro update one acted the same as 8.1 the only thing different I see is a power button next to my user name on the start screen. Everything else acts the same way. I press start it goes to the start screen. Not desktop. I didn't change and I actually prefer it this way.

    Sent from my LG-D801 using Tapatalk
    04-13-2014 01:53 PM
  11. Blkacesvf41's Avatar
    On my surface pro update one acted the same as 8.1 the only thing different I see is a power button next to my user name on the start screen. Everything else acts the same way. I press start it goes to the start screen. Not desktop. I didn't change and I actually prefer it this way.

    Sent from my LG-D801 using Tapatalk
    Yes, but you're either pressing start on your keyboard, start screen button or swiping and pressing start. Some people were referring to the issue of closing the modern apps by clicking on the new X on top right corner and then being taken to the desktop from there.
    04-13-2014 02:53 PM
  12. herbertsnow's Avatar
    I just spent the last hour undoing the changes this POS update did. Still looking for a way to get rid of that retard title bar and that stupid shut down button.
    04-14-2014 12:09 AM
  13. herbertsnow's Avatar
    Yes, but you're either pressing start on your keyboard, start screen button or swiping and pressing start. Some people were referring to the issue of closing the modern apps by clicking on the new X on top right corner and then being taken to the desktop from there.
    The thing is that you never need to close the apps in the first place.
    Last edited by herbertsnow; 04-14-2014 at 01:33 PM.
    04-14-2014 12:15 AM
  14. herbertsnow's Avatar
    These criticisms seem a bit odd... since Windows 8 came out people complained about booting to the start page, about not being able to run apps on the desktop, and that it was clumsy having to drag-sown on the app to close it.
    Now when Microsoft addresses these issues and give us what many had asked for (I was always quite happy with the way it was working), those same people are now complaining about getting what they wanted!!! I LIKE these new additions - they add flexibility and more ease of use.... :)
    MS should have giving us a choice when the update installed. I don't appreciate having undo all the changes it made. I'm happy with the start screen, I never wanted to go back to the desktop. It even changed my file associations for no reason. Next they will bring back that useless start menu. They better not force me to use that mess.
    04-14-2014 12:23 AM
  15. Blkacesvf41's Avatar
    The think is that you never need to close the apps in the first place.
    I agree and never do.
    04-14-2014 06:50 AM
  16. Mike_Milacek's Avatar
    I just spent the last hour undoing the changes this POS update did. Still looking for a way to get rid of that retard title bar and that stupid shut down button.
    Link on how to remove or add the power button. http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/wi...e-power-button
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    04-14-2014 09:34 AM
  17. iamtim's Avatar
    Still looking for a way to get rid of that retard title bar and that stupid shut down button.
    Good god, man, I think you spend more time fixated on, and complaining about, easily ignored changes than you do actually doing something with your computer.
    Blkacesvf41 likes this.
    04-15-2014 11:57 AM
  18. mrpuny's Avatar
    Another thing is that these changes (titlebar, minimize and close buttons, Windows store apps in the taskbar, and the taskbar visible when Windows Store apps are running) are also laying the groundwork for the future update where Windows Store apps can be run in overlapping windows on the desktop.
    04-15-2014 08:30 PM
  19. herbertsnow's Avatar
    Good god, man, I think you spend more time fixated on, and complaining about, easily ignored changes than you do actually doing something with your computer.
    I'm glad you enjoy the desktop training wheels update, but I don't. I have my desktop 95% back how it was before this dumba$$ update. All I need now is a way to remove the title bar. I'm not the only one that want's it removed. It gets in the way.
    04-16-2014 06:17 AM
  20. herbertsnow's Avatar
    Another thing is that these changes (titlebar, minimize and close buttons, Windows store apps in the taskbar, and the taskbar visible when Windows Store apps are running) are also laying the groundwork for the future update where Windows Store apps can be run in overlapping windows on the desktop.
    I rather have the ability to run desktop programs in the Modern UI. I hate jumping back to desktop. Running Modern apps on the desktop is just plain dumb.
    04-16-2014 06:20 AM
  21. mrpuny's Avatar
    What's dumb is stating unequivocally that the appropriate interface for a large screen desktop be the same as for a 10" tablet. If WinRT is truly the future API for windows, then it needs to be able to scale up to a multi window mode, and no, 2 or 3 or even 4 vertically split full screen "windows" isn't good enough.
    04-16-2014 07:12 AM
  22. herbertsnow's Avatar
    What's dumb is stating unequivocally that the appropriate interface for a large screen desktop be the same as for a 10" tablet. If WinRT is truly the future API for windows, then it needs to be able to scale up to a multi window mode, and no, 2 or 3 or even 4 vertically split full screen "windows" isn't good enough.
    If you want multi windows, get multi screens. That being said, Modern UI split mode works great for me.
    04-16-2014 07:21 AM
  23. mrpuny's Avatar
    If you want multi windows, get multi screens. That being said, Modern UI split mode works great for me.
    Worksforme(TM) It doesn't work for me when I truly am working in desktop mode where I literally have at least a half dozen windows open that I'm actively working with, plus mail and Lync messaging going on.

    Why not argue for one app per screen like on a phone, and then get even more screens for a desktop, or a multiscreen tablet like the Courier if you want more windows? (Hmm, a multiscreen laptop would be interesting.) That wouldn't be any more ridiculous than what you're proposing.
    04-16-2014 08:11 AM
  24. iamtim's Avatar
    It gets in the way.
    Only if you're hyper-focused on it. If you just... actually use your computer, instead of throwing rage-gasm fits and acting like your world is ending, you'll see that it doesn't get in the way. It just... fades away after a few seconds, and it doesn't in any way stop you from using your computer as you did before the update.
    04-18-2014 11:26 AM
  25. TheJoester09's Avatar
    On both Windows 7 and Windows 8 just go to the start button (win 7) and start screen (win 8) start typing the app you want to open. Much faster.

    Sent from my LG-D801 using Tapatalk
    This is true, and I do do this with Windows 8. I guess I should just train myself to do it on Windows 7 as well!
    04-18-2014 12:23 PM
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