iamtim
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In nothing but fullscreen mode right?
Um... no, wrong. Instead of getting Skype from the Store, go to Skype.com and download the desktop version. It'll install and run on the desktop like it always did.
In nothing but fullscreen mode right?
It does not right-click anymore.
(open useless fullscreen PDF viewer and right click, tell me what happens)
...you know that you can download and use the regular Skype desktop app, yes?
"That said, i hate those fixed windows, i hate the tiles in the metro interface i hate basically everything about that side.
This is one of the most useless posts I've ever seen.
Gonna stop you there.
Actually, the changes to the kernel and under the hood improvements are very, very significant. 8 is not just a new skin, which is why it's stupid that people still cling to 7. If you absolutely cannot adapt to the start screen, go buy the stardock win8 start menu.
Yes, the classic control panel has what it always had. But the Modern UI (MUI) settings, via the Charms bar menu does not. A person using the MUI to adjust settings would find that not everything can be done via the MUI version of settings. That's what I'm talking about.What are you even talking about?
The regular control panel has everything. There's a ModernUI version of the control panel that controls some of the more common control panel elements (winupdate) and also houses the ModernUI specific settings.
Using the scroll wheel on the mouse on the desktop scrolls in reverse to how it behaves in MUI apps. That's what I'm talking about.The mouse doesn't suddenly behave differently anywhere. You point and click. What's unintuitive here?
That is fine if you are using your Windows 8 machine as an HTPC. But as a regular work machine, that is useful. As a software developer I'm not using a 42" TV to watch Netflix, but I do use a 26" monitor for debugging and trace logs. MUI editors don't "scale up" to use the larger screen effectively.I use ModernUI apps (Netflix, youtube) on my 42" TV, with a mouse and keyboard. Better than desktop windows, precisely because of the larger interface elements keep things visible from an appropriate TV viewing distance.
I didn't say it offended me, but go ahead and put words in my mouth anyways. It is not irrational to need a UI to handle higher resolutions. The problem with MUI is that it magnifies what is on the screen as the screen increases in resolution... Windows before Win8 would support more content.I use modernUI on my 26" monitor I sit right in front of. The size of the UI elements don't somehow offend me- you didn't really elaborate on that irrational remark.
If you fail to see that MUI is a different paradigm than the traditional Windows UI then I don't have the ability to help you to see.The whole "it's not cohesive" ... "argument" doesn't really hold any water. The apps are part of an entirely new ecosystem- you should be able to instantly and easily identify that you are not in the traditional desktop. Apps behave differently, intentionally, and it's intelligently designed to be different partially so you're not confused as to what you're using and what to expect. There are good reasons for this, but instead of wasting my time spelling it out, I could easily just point out that you never need to use ModernUI, or even the explorer shell for that matter.
Fanboys will be fanboys... until they grow up and move out of their parents basement.Trolls will be trolls.
Yes, the classic control panel has what it always had. But the Modern UI (MUI) settings, via the Charms bar menu does not. A person using the MUI to adjust settings would find that not everything can be done via the MUI version of settings. That's what I'm talking about.
Using the scroll wheel on the mouse on the desktop scrolls in reverse to how it behaves in MUI apps. That's what I'm talking about.
That is fine if you are using your Windows 8 machine as an HTPC. But as a regular work machine, that is useful. As a software developer I'm not using a 42" TV to watch Netflix, but I do use a 26" monitor for debugging and trace logs. MUI editors don't "scale up" to use the larger screen effectively.
I didn't say it offended me, but go ahead and put words in my mouth anyways. It is not irrational to need a UI to handle higher resolutions. The problem with MUI is that it magnifies what is on the screen as the screen increases in resolution... Windows before Win8 would support more content.
If you fail to see that MUI is a different paradigm than the traditional Windows UI then I don't have the ability to help you to see.
Ppl often hate things all microsoft just because.
Fanboys will be fanboys... until they grow up and move out of their parents basement.
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That is what your position sounds like to me.
Even with a touch enabled laptop, if you are using primarily the mouse and keyboard, the metro side of the Windows hammer isn't necessarily for you. Luckily enough, if you don't like metro on the desktop, you have a million other non-metro options. Metro is awesome on tablets and smartphones however. Is it that hard to acknowledge that a UI can be good in one use-case but bad in another, and that it would make sense to use the right side of the tool for what you are trying to do? Damn those hammers...
Actually, you can do all that just as good and in many ways better with windows 8. I do graphic design, video editing, 3d modeling and more on four 30 inch monitors with windows 8, it's the best thing ever. You just simply need to learn how to use it...I need to have multiple windows on for work. I need two for dictionaries, one for a translating software, one browser + skype + else. In this perspective, what is cool on tablets and mobile phones becomes totally worthless for productivity.
Actually, you can do all that just as good and in many ways better with windows 8. I do graphic design, video editing, 3d modeling and more on four 30 inch monitors with windows 8, it's the best thing ever. You just simply need to learn how to use it.